DHzer0point 8184 Released

PoopyTheJ · Oct 14, 2005, 09:23 AM

Good things come to those who wait, and well, you all waited.

Some of the cool stuff you can look forward to inside:

-THE BATTLEFIELD 2 7800 GTX BUG IS DEFEATED (thanks to Scooper and the rest of the beta team, you guys rock)
-Gorgeous eye candy, as always
-Extensively tested in FEAR Demos, BF2, and CoD2 Demo, and Source Engine
-The dreaded “DHzer0point uninstall bug” should finally be laid to rest
-Same old tweaks you’ve come to know and love, and of course some new ones
-We've removed the Source enging Autoexec from this release due to changes in the Source engine as well as the 8xxx series drivers. This may return in the future.

Outstanding issues:

-Dungeon Siege 2 fog isn’t processing properly, but this appears to be an nVidia issue, and not our fault
-D&D Dragonshard doesn’t seem to want to render the ground…at all. We’re hunting this down and seeing if it’s us, or nVidia, and either way, trying to fix it.

A glimpse into the future:

-Special attention will be paid to the various games upcoming, including, but not limited to: Quake IV, F.E.A.R., Call of Duty 2, and perhaps Age of Empires III and Civilization IV
-We constantly comb through files and the web for new tweaks to add, and recompile our tweak database in order to provide yall with the freshest, seXXXiest looking drivers on the web

Special thanks to Scooper for working with us to hunt down the particular cause of LAG in BF2 with a 7800GTX.

The DHzer0point Team
"Quality First, Last, and Always"

As always get yours at http://www.driverheavendownloads.net/zeropoint.htm

Lowfat · Oct 14, 2005, 11:17 AM

first to try them out

maybe these drivers can gain me nine points in 3dmark05.

starfury6 · Oct 14, 2005, 02:08 PM

Nice one Poopy and the team, thanks.

SFOSOK · Oct 14, 2005, 02:11 PM

Even though the drivers are not for benching I got 8623 on 05 with only moderately overclocking my card.

This set is truelly amazing, the image quality and performance is unbelivable (at least to me).

I hope you guys like it.

Slammy · Oct 14, 2005, 02:56 PM

What is this bf2 7800gtx bug? I guess i havent heard of it cause i have a 7800gtx and am using the 81.84s right now.

PoopyTheJ · Oct 14, 2005, 04:08 PM

some users with 7800GTX's experienced severe lag on BF2 with the DHzp 8182set, that's been resolved.

pr0digal jenius · Oct 14, 2005, 04:31 PM

severe lag may be an understatement

Ulric · Oct 14, 2005, 05:34 PM

Oh, so I noticed that the NVIDIA side of the spectrum is getting some more love. That's cool and all, but when will performance increase with the ATI set? I downloaded the 5.9 set and they sucked ass with my machine. However, I'm not so sure it wasn't my system's fault this time, so I'll refrain from bashing the drivers completely. Hell, even the Omega set wasn't performing at full speed. Cum to drink of it, while on the subject of ATI, I tried out the latest 5.10 stock drivers and they seem to be working just fine for me and WoW. I don't understand why, but I don't really care, either. Long live ATI.

SFOSOK · Oct 14, 2005, 05:54 PM

You'd have to ask that in the ATI section : )

GeneralClaymore · Oct 14, 2005, 08:30 PM

will there be winxp64bit vers of these drivers. cuz i would love to use these on windows xp64bit =/

Scooper · Oct 15, 2005, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

severe lag may be an understatement

Man, I can testify to that!
She is all gone now!

The issue was limited to 7 series cards... and even then didn't happen to them all. Really weird!
I was asked to join the team as a victim of the issue - and cuz I'm cool

I won't even try to take any credit from the guys except as a simple tester donating high end hardware and lotsa time. Happy to help - Great team!

n\/Cl34r · Oct 15, 2005, 07:01 AM

Going to try them out.

Had some problems with severe ground texture bugs in Guild Wars with any driver later than 78xx ... also, i think some Black & White 2 crashes were related to it for me, because those ceased after reverting to DHZP .7803

Anyway, thanks and continue the great work!

[PS: Hi, i'm new here

... and WTF you need FIVE HUNDRED posts to be allowed an avatar?!]

EDIT:

Nope, as all drivers later than .78xx those drivers produce Ground Texture Errors in Guild Wars and crashes in Black & White 2 for me, or rather my MSI NX6600GT-128 (PCIe)...
Well but i've had this with the nVidia betas 8184 also, so it's probably their fault ^^

pr0digal jenius · Oct 15, 2005, 10:45 AM

the guild wars issue is not something we have any control over. The B&W2 bug, however, if you can describe it in detail and possibly screenshot/transcribe any error messages, we can see about workign that one out for you, as that's a new one to me.

As for X-64 drivers, I'll talk to drew and get his opinion, but as we have very minimal X-64 beta testing rescources, if we do go that route, they will likely be a "public beta" sort fo thign for a while

n\/Cl34r · Oct 15, 2005, 11:39 AM

Well there isn't really much to describe about the B&W2 crash. The game gets slower and slower over time and stutters worse and worse, and after an hour or so performance drops ridiculously within a couple of seconds towards a complete halt. And well ... the image and computer are frozen completely. I can't open up the task manager or the startmenu... heck, i can't even swap Numlock on my Keyboard once the System is at this point.

And it's very probably related to Display Drivers, because i didn't change anything else and it always stops completely after reverting to 7803 drivers (done just now), i can play for hours without major performance loss (i do beliebe B&W2 isn't leak-free though).

darkcube · Oct 16, 2005, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

As for X-64 drivers, I'll talk to drew and get his opinion, but as we have very minimal X-64 beta testing rescources, if we do go that route, they will likely be a "public beta" sort fo thign for a while

Hey, i've always been willing to betatest x64 drivers, actually i seem to have been kicked off the zer0point beta testing team because i'm only running x64 now...

pr0digal jenius · Oct 16, 2005, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n\/Cl34r

Well there isn't really much to describe about the B&W2 crash. The game gets slower and slower over time and stutters worse and worse, and after an hour or so performance drops ridiculously within a couple of seconds towards a complete halt. And well ... the image and computer are frozen completely. I can't open up the task manager or the startmenu... heck, i can't even swap Numlock on my Keyboard once the System is at this point.

And it's very probably related to Display Drivers, because i didn't change anything else and it always stops completely after reverting to 7803 drivers (done just now), i can play for hours without major performance loss (i do beliebe B&W2 isn't leak-free though).

ok, so on the B&W2 crash, do the stock 81.84 drivers do it, or is it just the DHzer0points?

MNDS · Oct 16, 2005, 07:44 PM

Both do, I have the same issue with this game and a couple others. My problem personally relates to dual core though as when I set affinity to cpu 0 for a given game thats crashing it operates perfectly normal. Kinda frustrating though I wish nvidia would correct the problem...

pr0digal jenius · Oct 16, 2005, 09:55 PM

that does suck

but that's also nothing I can even begin to correct

rebels · Oct 16, 2005, 10:33 PM

My dang new nvcontrol panel just wont start-up the reason was nvcpl.cpl are gone!! were did he gone?

redbonez · Oct 16, 2005, 10:39 PM

When I try to run battlefield 2 using these drivers I am kicked back to desktop after the blackscreen following the Battlefield 2 splash screen. Anyone else having this problem or know how to fix it? EA says it is a driver problem, but it seems many of you have successfully played BF2 with these drivers.

I am running a 256MB NVidia GeForce Go 6800 16x PCI-Express on a custom built desktop-replacement (laptop) using the same chassis and chipset as the Alienware Area-51m 7700.

Any help would be greatly appreciated as I have loved your drivers in the past, and want to continue using them.

thank you,
-redbonez

PoopyTheJ · Oct 16, 2005, 11:08 PM

redbonez, please uninstall the driver then replace the file nv4_disp.inf with this one reinstall the drivers and let us know if it fixes the problem...

redbonez · Oct 17, 2005, 12:22 AM

No change in BF2. Though I have now lost my ability to use my dual display. :/
Any other thoughts?

Thanks again
-redbonez

n\/Cl34r · Oct 17, 2005, 02:01 AM

Try the DHZP 7803

Those work well enough for me

Machete · Oct 17, 2005, 08:14 AM

I am having a problem with 81.84 with the beta for the MMORPG R.O.S.E. The game starts out fine, but then after a few minutes or so the game starts running SUPER FAST. Its pretty much as if you hit th fast forward button on a DVD. In any case I have experienced this with 81.82 as well as 81.84 both plain and modified drivers.

My Specs

AMD64 X2 4400+
2 Gigs OCZ Platinum Dual Channel RAM
Albatron NVIDIA 7800 GTX's in SLI
DFI LanParty UT nF4 ULtra D
Maxtor 300gig SATA
Plextor PX 716SA DVD-RW

Vikingod · Oct 17, 2005, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machete

I am having a problem with 81.84 with the beta for the MMORPG R.O.S.E. The game starts out fine, but then after a few minutes or so the game starts running SUPER FAST. Its pretty much as if you hit th fast forward button on a DVD. In any case I have experienced this with 81.82 as well as 81.84 both plain and modified drivers.

My Specs

AMD64 X2 4400+
2 Gigs OCZ Platinum Dual Channel RAM
Albatron NVIDIA 7800 GTX's in SLI
DFI LanParty UT nF4 ULtra D
Maxtor 300gig SATA
Plextor PX 716SA DVD-RW

That doesn't sound like a GPU driver issue to me, sounds more like a processor issue.

pr0digal jenius · Oct 17, 2005, 11:38 AM

yea, that sounds like a clock cycle discrepency, altho, with these being beta drivers from nVidia, and that being a beta game, who knows.

do the 78.03's do it?

e v o · Oct 17, 2005, 05:50 PM

question, what is the dhzpcolor.vbs at startup

is it just a color scheme?

thanks

Necrosis · Oct 17, 2005, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machete

I am having a problem with 81.84 with the beta for the MMORPG R.O.S.E. The game starts out fine, but then after a few minutes or so the game starts running SUPER FAST. Its pretty much as if you hit th fast forward button on a DVD. In any case I have experienced this with 81.82 as well as 81.84 both plain and modified drivers.

My Specs

AMD64 X2 4400+
2 Gigs OCZ Platinum Dual Channel RAM
Albatron NVIDIA 7800 GTX's in SLI
DFI LanParty UT nF4 ULtra D
Maxtor 300gig SATA
Plextor PX 716SA DVD-RW

Try setting your affinity for CPU 0.

studbagel9 · Oct 17, 2005, 10:56 PM

I'm not sure what the "optimal" settings for Far Cry are, but 1280 x 1024 2xQuincux AA and 4x AF with basically high to ultra high settings dips into the 22 FPS range in outdoor vehicle environments. I gues it sounds like a lot, but the engine is 2 years old now, and on a 6800 gt with an AMD Athlon XP 3200+ I wouldn't think it would be so bad. My roommate has a Radeon x800xl and an amd 64 3200+ and he doesn't dip below about 40 FPS. Eh, whatever, just thought I'd share my findings, nothing scientific

pr0digal jenius · Oct 17, 2005, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e v o

question, what is the dhzpcolor.vbs at startup

is it just a color scheme?

thanks

it tweaks the colorsharpening a bit, and the reason there's a script at startup, is b/c the settings would revert on boot, so we silently apply them

Oct 14, 2005, 09:23 AM	#1
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,595 Rep Power: 50	DHzer0point 8184 Released Good things come to those who wait, and well, you all waited. Some of the cool stuff you can look forward to inside: -THE BATTLEFIELD 2 7800 GTX BUG IS DEFEATED (thanks to Scooper and the rest of the beta team, you guys rock) -Gorgeous eye candy, as always -Extensively tested in FEAR Demos, BF2, and CoD2 Demo, and Source Engine -The dreaded “DHzer0point uninstall bug” should finally be laid to rest -Same old tweaks you’ve come to know and love, and of course some new ones -We've removed the Source enging Autoexec from this release due to changes in the Source engine as well as the 8xxx series drivers. This may return in the future. Outstanding issues: -Dungeon Siege 2 fog isn’t processing properly, but this appears to be an nVidia issue, and not our fault -D&D Dragonshard doesn’t seem to want to render the ground…at all. We’re hunting this down and seeing if it’s us, or nVidia, and either way, trying to fix it. A glimpse into the future: -Special attention will be paid to the various games upcoming, including, but not limited to: Quake IV, F.E.A.R., Call of Duty 2, and perhaps Age of Empires III and Civilization IV -We constantly comb through files and the web for new tweaks to add, and recompile our tweak database in order to provide yall with the freshest, seXXXiest looking drivers on the web Special thanks to Scooper for working with us to hunt down the particular cause of LAG in BF2 with a 7800GTX. The DHzer0point Team "Quality First, Last, and Always" As always get yours at http://www.driverheavendownloads.net/zeropoint.htm __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

Oct 14, 2005, 11:17 AM	#2
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Oct 14, 2005, 02:08 PM	#3
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Oct 14, 2005, 02:11 PM	#4
SFOSOK -Thread Ender- Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Riverside, CA (right next to the f*ckin train) Posts: 6,873 Rep Power: 48 System Specs	Even though the drivers are not for benching I got 8623 on 05 with only moderately overclocking my card. This set is truelly amazing, the image quality and performance is unbelivable (at least to me). I hope you guys like it. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Oct 14, 2005, 04:08 PM	#6
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,595 Rep Power: 50	some users with 7800GTX's experienced severe lag on BF2 with the DHzp 8182set, that's been resolved. __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

Oct 14, 2005, 02:56 PM	#5
Slammy DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	What is this bf2 7800gtx bug? I guess i havent heard of it cause i have a 7800gtx and am using the 81.84s right now.

Oct 14, 2005, 04:31 PM	#7
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,672 Rep Power: 0	severe lag may be an understatement

Oct 14, 2005, 05:34 PM	#8
Ulric DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 83 Rep Power: 0	Oh, so I noticed that the NVIDIA side of the spectrum is getting some more love. That's cool and all, but when will performance increase with the ATI set? I downloaded the 5.9 set and they sucked ass with my machine. However, I'm not so sure it wasn't my system's fault this time, so I'll refrain from bashing the drivers completely. Hell, even the Omega set wasn't performing at full speed. Cum to drink of it, while on the subject of ATI, I tried out the latest 5.10 stock drivers and they seem to be working just fine for me and WoW. I don't understand why, but I don't really care, either. Long live ATI.

Oct 14, 2005, 05:54 PM	#9
SFOSOK -Thread Ender- Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Riverside, CA (right next to the f*ckin train) Posts: 6,873 Rep Power: 48 System Specs	You'd have to ask that in the ATI section : ) __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Oct 14, 2005, 08:30 PM	#10
GeneralClaymore DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 431 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	will there be winxp64bit vers of these drivers. cuz i would love to use these on windows xp64bit =/ __________________

Oct 15, 2005, 07:01 AM	#12
n\/Cl34r DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In the Darkness... Hey is that a Burrito? Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0 $n\/Cl34r is on a distinguished road$	Going to try them out. Had some problems with severe ground texture bugs in Guild Wars with any driver later than 78xx ... also, i think some Black & White 2 crashes were related to it for me, because those ceased after reverting to DHZP .7803 Anyway, thanks and continue the great work! [PS: Hi, i'm new here ... and WTF you need FIVE HUNDRED posts to be allowed an avatar?!] EDIT: Nope, as all drivers later than .78xx those drivers produce Ground Texture Errors in Guild Wars and crashes in Black & White 2 for me, or rather my MSI NX6600GT-128 (PCIe)... Well but i've had this with the nVidia betas 8184 also, so it's probably their fault ^^ __________________ Last edited by n\/Cl34r; Oct 15, 2005 at 09:22 AM.
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Oct 15, 2005, 10:45 AM	#13
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,672 Rep Power: 0	the guild wars issue is not something we have any control over. The B&W2 bug, however, if you can describe it in detail and possibly screenshot/transcribe any error messages, we can see about workign that one out for you, as that's a new one to me. As for X-64 drivers, I'll talk to drew and get his opinion, but as we have very minimal X-64 beta testing rescources, if we do go that route, they will likely be a "public beta" sort fo thign for a while

Oct 15, 2005, 11:39 AM	#14
n\/Cl34r DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In the Darkness... Hey is that a Burrito? Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0 $n\/Cl34r is on a distinguished road$	Well there isn't really much to describe about the B&W2 crash. The game gets slower and slower over time and stutters worse and worse, and after an hour or so performance drops ridiculously within a couple of seconds towards a complete halt. And well ... the image and computer are frozen completely. I can't open up the task manager or the startmenu... heck, i can't even swap Numlock on my Keyboard once the System is at this point. And it's very probably related to Display Drivers, because i didn't change anything else and it always stops completely after reverting to 7803 drivers (done just now), i can play for hours without major performance loss (i do beliebe B&W2 isn't leak-free though). __________________
$n\/Cl34r is offline$

Oct 16, 2005, 07:44 PM	#17
MNDS DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NY Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	Both do, I have the same issue with this game and a couple others. My problem personally relates to dual core though as when I set affinity to cpu 0 for a given game thats crashing it operates perfectly normal. Kinda frustrating though I wish nvidia would correct the problem... __________________ Pentium D 830 2 x 512 Megs PC5400 Corsair XMS2 DDR2 Ram Biostar 945P Mobo eVGA PCI-Express 6800GT w/ NV5Silencer PCI SB X-Fi Xtreme Music

Oct 16, 2005, 09:55 PM	#18
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,672 Rep Power: 0	that does suck but that's also nothing I can even begin to correct

Oct 16, 2005, 10:33 PM	#19
rebels -=[DHzer0point Team]=- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: EaSt JaV@ Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	My dang new nvcontrol panel just wont start-up the reason was nvcpl.cpl are gone!! were did he gone? __________________ DFi Lanparty Ultra 4-D + A64 3000+ (Venice) Kingston KVR BT-4D 1 gig Samsung Spinpoint 160 GB Seagate 200 GB Gigabyte 6600GT TT 550 Watt

Oct 16, 2005, 10:39 PM	#20
redbonez DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Battlefield 2 problem When I try to run battlefield 2 using these drivers I am kicked back to desktop after the blackscreen following the Battlefield 2 splash screen. Anyone else having this problem or know how to fix it? EA says it is a driver problem, but it seems many of you have successfully played BF2 with these drivers. I am running a 256MB NVidia GeForce Go 6800 16x PCI-Express on a custom built desktop-replacement (laptop) using the same chassis and chipset as the Alienware Area-51m 7700. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I have loved your drivers in the past, and want to continue using them. thank you, -redbonez

Oct 16, 2005, 11:08 PM	#21
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,595 Rep Power: 50	redbonez, please uninstall the driver then replace the file nv4_disp.inf with this one reinstall the drivers and let us know if it fixes the problem... __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

Oct 17, 2005, 12:22 AM	#22
redbonez DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	No change in BF2. Though I have now lost my ability to use my dual display. :/ Any other thoughts? Thanks again -redbonez Last edited by redbonez; Oct 17, 2005 at 12:51 AM.

Oct 17, 2005, 02:01 AM	#23
n\/Cl34r DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In the Darkness... Hey is that a Burrito? Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0 $n\/Cl34r is on a distinguished road$	Try the DHZP 7803 Those work well enough for me __________________
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Oct 17, 2005, 08:14 AM	#24
Machete DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	I am having a problem with 81.84 with the beta for the MMORPG R.O.S.E. The game starts out fine, but then after a few minutes or so the game starts running SUPER FAST. Its pretty much as if you hit th fast forward button on a DVD. In any case I have experienced this with 81.82 as well as 81.84 both plain and modified drivers. My Specs AMD64 X2 4400+ 2 Gigs OCZ Platinum Dual Channel RAM Albatron NVIDIA 7800 GTX's in SLI DFI LanParty UT nF4 ULtra D Maxtor 300gig SATA Plextor PX 716SA DVD-RW

Oct 17, 2005, 11:38 AM	#26
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,672 Rep Power: 0	yea, that sounds like a clock cycle discrepency, altho, with these being beta drivers from nVidia, and that being a beta game, who knows. do the 78.03's do it?

Oct 17, 2005, 05:50 PM	#27
e v o ........ Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,038 Rep Power: 33 System Specs	question, what is the dhzpcolor.vbs at startup is it just a color scheme? thanks __________________

Oct 17, 2005, 10:56 PM	#29
studbagel9 Rolling the Hard Six Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lock Haven, PA Posts: 767 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I'm not sure what the "optimal" settings for Far Cry are, but 1280 x 1024 2xQuincux AA and 4x AF with basically high to ultra high settings dips into the 22 FPS range in outdoor vehicle environments. I gues it sounds like a lot, but the engine is 2 years old now, and on a 6800 gt with an AMD Athlon XP 3200+ I wouldn't think it would be so bad. My roommate has a Radeon x800xl and an amd 64 3200+ and he doesn't dip below about 40 FPS. Eh, whatever, just thought I'd share my findings, nothing scientific __________________ Last edited by studbagel9; Oct 17, 2005 at 11:04 PM.

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