OFFICIAL: ATI Catalyst Drivers version 3.0 PROBLEM THREAD

Genius · Dec 20, 2002, 11:05 AM

Get the goods!!!!

Be sure to follow my install guide if you have any problems. Some people seem to think just using RegCleaner to remove ATI keys is a clean install... it's not.

iplaycs · Dec 20, 2002, 11:25 AM

How come radeon 9500 and 9700 are certified and all other Radeons are not?

Ville85 · Dec 20, 2002, 11:31 AM

Is there any mirrors available??

Ati's site is damn slow! It would take 5hours to download those.

Genius · Dec 20, 2002, 11:31 AM

I have no clue. Maybe because those are the only cards to support DirectX 9.

Genius · Dec 20, 2002, 11:32 AM

Mirrors will be up soon I'm sure.

sh_polinatora · Dec 20, 2002, 11:42 AM

guys guys guys
Catalyst 3 is up
but it take time to download stupid ati
didn't organize the launch of Catalyst 3 very well....

Chrille · Dec 20, 2002, 11:45 AM

I hope they will my screen wont get black when running games as with Catalyst 2.4 and 2.5 did..

***Zardon*** · Dec 20, 2002, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sh_polinatora
guys guys guys
Catalyst 3 is up
but it take time to download stupid ati
didn't organize the launch of Catalyst 3 very well....

well just dont try and download the full DX9 222mb package, its dropped on me from over 150k a second to 11k.......

Zarathustra · Dec 20, 2002, 11:48 AM

Ok my initial findings with these drivers: Vsync seems to be FORCED ON no matter what the control panel setting is. I had to force it off with Powerstrip

3DM2k1 is down a good 100pts, but I could care less as long as real games are better.

Khumbu · Dec 20, 2002, 12:12 PM

had no problem at all to download directx and the new drivers...

Genius · Dec 20, 2002, 12:14 PM

No vsync problems here. 3DMark scores are about the same, but 3DMark was made obsolete when the 9700 hit the shelves. Initial tests show that my stuttering in UT 2003 may be fixed. This still requires more testing though. So far I haven't experienced any problems.

Be sure to follow my little install guide

*shameless plug*

Chaos · Dec 20, 2002, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
well just dont try and download the full DX9 222mb package, its dropped on me from over 150k a second to 11k.......

I am getting 75k on the 31 meg DX9 redistributable exe when i would normally get around 400-800k from MS

digitalwanderer · Dec 20, 2002, 12:44 PM

31MB DX9 redistributable package from M$, just in case anyone else wasn't really looking forward to the 222MB download on a 56K.

R0GX · Dec 20, 2002, 12:45 PM

Is there any chance that any of you know how to hack the .ini's so I can try these new drivers with my Mobilty 7500?

karlotta · Dec 20, 2002, 12:49 PM

Mirror Mirror where are my ATI cats?

sinjin · Dec 20, 2002, 01:38 PM

just grabbed the new catalyst set off of the ati download page...no connection issues here (200+k/s). installed dx9 using that web setup thingy....then after a clean install of the cats i havent run into the vsync problem that zarathustra had...everything is just peachy on my end. (win2ksp3/r8500/dx9)

fwap fwap fwap.....aaannnnddddd done.

Yemble · Dec 20, 2002, 01:43 PM

Personnally I don't give a monkey's how well DX9/Catalyst3 drivers play games, 'cos I don't!

But, I am impressed to finally get a driver set that does not leave artifacts all over the screen when used with CursorXP!!!

Alistair · Dec 20, 2002, 01:46 PM

anyword on 64bit and 128bit colors with these drivers?

Zarathustra · Dec 20, 2002, 03:43 PM

Well damn, guess I'll have to do some reinstallation crap to fix the vsync

damiandimitri · Dec 20, 2002, 05:07 PM

why does the main page say it supports the 8500...but ATI doesn't mention it

Paladin06 · Dec 20, 2002, 08:22 PM

OK, installed the new 3.0 ATI with DX9 and got a rather disappointing performance DECREASE to the tune of 300 points.

Also my system seems slow to respond in all operations. I mean normal window functions are very slow. What's that all about?

Genius · Dec 20, 2002, 08:32 PM

Sounds like a corrupt driver install. Follow the link in my sig =)

ting · Dec 20, 2002, 08:55 PM

I am using radeon 9700 on win 2k and I can't install the drivers, help helppp

DarkFoss · Dec 20, 2002, 10:11 PM

Installed Cat 3.0, DX9 lost 150 points in 3d Mark2001se but who cares!! UT2K3 runs smoother and looks great! DVD playback images are smoother sharper and clearer too

One thing on Ati's main page where I downloaded the Cat 3's they mentioned a new mmc and hydravision in the Cat package but they're a no show in the download

Robert McClelland · Dec 21, 2002, 12:18 AM

I had trouble with them my It Disable My AGP slot in my dx tool box I was piss. So what you can do is go display manger then go ati radeon dispaly and go right click pro. then updated drivers then you get keep the new contral panel. My score back to nomral after I did I lost 2400 points with AGP diable

Rayder · Dec 21, 2002, 03:01 AM

I installed them on my 98se rig. I lost 100 points in 3dmark. Some of the little niggling problems have returned that existed in the 2.3's and previous. Rollcage 2, AKA Death Track Racing, does that thing where exiting the program results in video acceleration becoming disabled until a reboot. Big Scale Racing will flash corrupt -liney looking- graphics on occasion. That's the only probs I found so far.

I haven't been as thorough in my testing as I usually am. Not having a 9700 kind of steals some of the fun out of the update.

BUMMER, those demos absolutely do not work with an 8500, I get some error about not being able to find a suitable graphics adapter. I figured that they would at least WORK, even if I didn't see some of the enhanced effects. I mean, they said they were "optimised" for the 9700, not "only for" the 9700....

I guess you have to have a 9700 to be impressed with these new drivers and DX9. -sigh- Maybe when someone finally develops that "infinite cash" wallet......

Anyone want to donate a 9700 to me?

I'll install them on the WinXP rigs tomorrow, of course they only have 8500dv's in them, so I don't expect to be impressed with that either.

***Zardon*** · Dec 21, 2002, 03:30 AM

I installed the new set last night and was initially dissapointed with them, the old stuttering was there. So I performed a clean install of windows XP and installed DX9 from the 220 meg SDK download (got that in 20 minutes) then the new cats.

And no im not saying you guys should reformat and reinstall your operating system just to install these. Its just the way I work with new driver sets, ive my rig also set up with multiple hard drives, so that isnt a problem.

Opengl games are now smooth for me, unlike the previous DX9 sets. D3D games run just as well as the last DX9 Ati set.

3dmark is benching the same for me with no visible loss or increase in score.... still around the 15,000 mark.

A very fine set, ive ran MOHAA, MOHAA spearhead, Serious sam 2, RTCW and a few others, all are working perfectly with no shuddering experienced with previous sets.

The old demos I had downloaded from the ATi site didnt work so the new versions had to be redownloaded. Screensavers are also very pretty.

I am keeping these on, nice IQ and work great in games. They also appear to have solved some issues with my dual monitor setup and ultramonitor 2.

Rayder · Dec 21, 2002, 03:37 AM

Well, I after putting in the drivers and getting those diaappointing results, I downloaded the DX9 redistributable (the 32 meg one) and regained about 50 points in 3DMark. So I only lost 50 points.....

Where is that big mega download of DX9? I didn't spot it. I might as well get it.

***Zardon*** · Dec 21, 2002, 03:45 AM

thats strange....... it was linking from the ATI site to the full 222meg SDK download, and yet I dont see it now on the MS site......

***Zardon*** · Dec 21, 2002, 03:53 AM

found it here, and I would get it quick guys I cant see MS hosting this file forever.

http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...bb3/dx9sdk.exe

Dec 20, 2002, 11:05 AM	#1
Genius ID10T Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 146 Rep Power: 0	New ATI Catalyst Drivers version 3.0 Get the goods!!!! Be sure to follow my install guide if you have any problems. Some people seem to think just using RegCleaner to remove ATI keys is a clean install... it's not. __________________ [color=White]Abit NF7-S v.2.0 1.5gb ram at 10-3-3-2.5 AMB Barton 2500+ @2215MHz (211x10.5) Dual WD800JB (Raid 0) / WD1600JB / WD800BB Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Logitech Z-680 5.1 speakers Radeon 9800 Pro Sony G420 19"[/color] Last edited by Genius; Dec 20, 2002 at 01:22 PM.

Dec 20, 2002, 11:31 AM	#4
Genius ID10T Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 146 Rep Power: 0	I have no clue. Maybe because those are the only cards to support DirectX 9. __________________ [color=White]Abit NF7-S v.2.0 1.5gb ram at 10-3-3-2.5 AMB Barton 2500+ @2215MHz (211x10.5) Dual WD800JB (Raid 0) / WD1600JB / WD800BB Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Logitech Z-680 5.1 speakers Radeon 9800 Pro Sony G420 19"[/color]

Dec 20, 2002, 11:32 AM	#5
Genius ID10T Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 146 Rep Power: 0	Mirrors will be up soon I'm sure. __________________ [color=White]Abit NF7-S v.2.0 1.5gb ram at 10-3-3-2.5 AMB Barton 2500+ @2215MHz (211x10.5) Dual WD800JB (Raid 0) / WD1600JB / WD800BB Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Logitech Z-680 5.1 speakers Radeon 9800 Pro Sony G420 19"[/color]

Dec 20, 2002, 11:42 AM	#6
sh_polinatora DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ontario Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	The server is slowwwwwwwwwwww guys guys guys Catalyst 3 is up but it take time to download stupid ati didn't organize the launch of Catalyst 3 very well....

Dec 20, 2002, 11:45 AM	#7
Chrille DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 86 Rep Power: 0	Catalyst 3 I hope they will my screen wont get black when running games as with Catalyst 2.4 and 2.5 did..

Dec 20, 2002, 11:25 AM	#2
iplaycs DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	How come radeon 9500 and 9700 are certified and all other Radeons are not?

Dec 20, 2002, 11:31 AM	#3
Ville85 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 22 Rep Power: 0	Is there any mirrors available?? Ati's site is damn slow! It would take 5hours to download those.

Dec 20, 2002, 11:48 AM	#9
Zarathustra Elite Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Confederacy Posts: 841 Rep Power: 0	Ok my initial findings with these drivers: Vsync seems to be FORCED ON no matter what the control panel setting is. I had to force it off with Powerstrip 3DM2k1 is down a good 100pts, but I could care less as long as real games are better.

Dec 20, 2002, 12:12 PM	#10
Khumbu DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	had no problem at all to download directx and the new drivers...

Dec 20, 2002, 12:14 PM	#11
Genius ID10T Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 146 Rep Power: 0	No vsync problems here. 3DMark scores are about the same, but 3DMark was made obsolete when the 9700 hit the shelves. Initial tests show that my stuttering in UT 2003 may be fixed. This still requires more testing though. So far I haven't experienced any problems. Be sure to follow my little install guide shameless plug __________________ [color=White]Abit NF7-S v.2.0 1.5gb ram at 10-3-3-2.5 AMB Barton 2500+ @2215MHz (211x10.5) Dual WD800JB (Raid 0) / WD1600JB / WD800BB Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Logitech Z-680 5.1 speakers Radeon 9800 Pro Sony G420 19"[/color]

Dec 20, 2002, 12:44 PM	#13
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,621 Rep Power: 0	31MB DX9 redistributable package from M$, just in case anyone else wasn't really looking forward to the 222MB download on a 56K. __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

Dec 20, 2002, 12:45 PM	#14
R0GX DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Is there any chance that any of you know how to hack the .ini's so I can try these new drivers with my Mobilty 7500?

Dec 20, 2002, 12:49 PM	#15
karlotta DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: oregon Posts: 83 Rep Power: 0	Mirror Mirror where are my ATI cats?

Dec 20, 2002, 01:38 PM	#16
sinjin the last samurai Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,086 Rep Power: 0	just grabbed the new catalyst set off of the ati download page...no connection issues here (200+k/s). installed dx9 using that web setup thingy....then after a clean install of the cats i havent run into the vsync problem that zarathustra had...everything is just peachy on my end. (win2ksp3/r8500/dx9) fwap fwap fwap.....aaannnnddddd done. __________________

Dec 20, 2002, 01:43 PM	#17
Yemble DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Yorkshire, By Gum! Posts: 46 Rep Power: 0	Personnally I don't give a monkey's how well DX9/Catalyst3 drivers play games, 'cos I don't! But, I am impressed to finally get a driver set that does not leave artifacts all over the screen when used with CursorXP!!! __________________ See all, hear all, say nowt. Eat all, sup all, pay nowt. And if tha does owt for nowt, alus do it for thisen.

Dec 20, 2002, 01:46 PM	#18
Alistair Spoos Join Date: May 2002 Location: State College, PA, USA Posts: 441 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	anyword on 64bit and 128bit colors with these drivers? __________________ - Alistair

Dec 20, 2002, 03:43 PM	#19
Zarathustra Elite Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Confederacy Posts: 841 Rep Power: 0	Well damn, guess I'll have to do some reinstallation crap to fix the vsync

Dec 20, 2002, 05:07 PM	#20
damiandimitri DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0	why does the main page say it supports the 8500...but ATI doesn't mention it

Dec 20, 2002, 08:22 PM	#21
Paladin06 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: USA Posts: 86 Rep Power: 0	OK, installed the new 3.0 ATI with DX9 and got a rather disappointing performance DECREASE to the tune of 300 points. Also my system seems slow to respond in all operations. I mean normal window functions are very slow. What's that all about? __________________ WinXP-SP2 P4 3.4 @ 3.5 PE800CE-A GeForce 7800GS OC 1 Gig PC3200 (Corsair) Audigy Gamer 5.1 Creative Inspire 5700 Sound system 19" SyncMaster LCD 931B Monitor Razor Krait Gaming Mouse 80 and 60 gig ATA 100 HD MSI 48x16x48 CDROM ARTEC 16x DVD-ROM EIDE

Dec 20, 2002, 08:32 PM	#22
Genius ID10T Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 146 Rep Power: 0	Sounds like a corrupt driver install. Follow the link in my sig =) __________________ [color=White]Abit NF7-S v.2.0 1.5gb ram at 10-3-3-2.5 AMB Barton 2500+ @2215MHz (211x10.5) Dual WD800JB (Raid 0) / WD1600JB / WD800BB Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Logitech Z-680 5.1 speakers Radeon 9800 Pro Sony G420 19"[/color]

Dec 20, 2002, 08:55 PM	#23
ting DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	I am using radeon 9700 on win 2k and I can't install the drivers, help helppp

Dec 20, 2002, 10:11 PM	#24
DarkFoss DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Downers Grove IL Posts: 696 Rep Power: 0	I Like !! Installed Cat 3.0, DX9 lost 150 points in 3d Mark2001se but who cares!! UT2K3 runs smoother and looks great! DVD playback images are smoother sharper and clearer too One thing on Ati's main page where I downloaded the Cat 3's they mentioned a new mmc and hydravision in the Cat package but they're a no show in the download

Dec 21, 2002, 12:18 AM	#25
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Some Where in Ohio Posts: 6,292 Rep Power: 102 System Specs	I had trouble with them my It Disable My AGP slot in my dx tool box I was piss. So what you can do is go display manger then go ati radeon dispaly and go right click pro. then updated drivers then you get keep the new contral panel. My score back to nomral after I did I lost 2400 points with AGP diable __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun"

Dec 21, 2002, 03:01 AM	#26
Rayder Mostly lurking lately.... Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 2,032 Rep Power: 51	I installed them on my 98se rig. I lost 100 points in 3dmark. Some of the little niggling problems have returned that existed in the 2.3's and previous. Rollcage 2, AKA Death Track Racing, does that thing where exiting the program results in video acceleration becoming disabled until a reboot. Big Scale Racing will flash corrupt -liney looking- graphics on occasion. That's the only probs I found so far. I haven't been as thorough in my testing as I usually am. Not having a 9700 kind of steals some of the fun out of the update. BUMMER, those demos absolutely do not work with an 8500, I get some error about not being able to find a suitable graphics adapter. I figured that they would at least WORK, even if I didn't see some of the enhanced effects. I mean, they said they were "optimised" for the 9700, not "only for" the 9700.... I guess you have to have a 9700 to be impressed with these new drivers and DX9. -sigh- Maybe when someone finally develops that "infinite cash" wallet...... Anyone want to donate a 9700 to me? I'll install them on the WinXP rigs tomorrow, of course they only have 8500dv's in them, so I don't expect to be impressed with that either. __________________ Last edited by Rayder; Dec 21, 2002 at 03:07 AM.

Dec 21, 2002, 03:30 AM	#27
*Zardon* lifeless Join Date: May 2002 Location: Driverheaven Posts: 31,957 Rep Power: 3148	very positive for me..... I installed the new set last night and was initially dissapointed with them, the old stuttering was there. So I performed a clean install of windows XP and installed DX9 from the 220 meg SDK download (got that in 20 minutes) then the new cats. And no im not saying you guys should reformat and reinstall your operating system just to install these. Its just the way I work with new driver sets, ive my rig also set up with multiple hard drives, so that isnt a problem. Opengl games are now smooth for me, unlike the previous DX9 sets. D3D games run just as well as the last DX9 Ati set. 3dmark is benching the same for me with no visible loss or increase in score.... still around the 15,000 mark. A very fine set, ive ran MOHAA, MOHAA spearhead, Serious sam 2, RTCW and a few others, all are working perfectly with no shuddering experienced with previous sets. The old demos I had downloaded from the ATi site didnt work so the new versions had to be redownloaded. Screensavers are also very pretty. I am keeping these on, nice IQ and work great in games. They also appear to have solved some issues with my dual monitor setup and ultramonitor 2.

Dec 21, 2002, 03:37 AM	#28
Rayder Mostly lurking lately.... Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 2,032 Rep Power: 51	Well, I after putting in the drivers and getting those diaappointing results, I downloaded the DX9 redistributable (the 32 meg one) and regained about 50 points in 3DMark. So I only lost 50 points..... Where is that big mega download of DX9? I didn't spot it. I might as well get it.

Dec 21, 2002, 03:45 AM	#29
*Zardon* lifeless Join Date: May 2002 Location: Driverheaven Posts: 31,957 Rep Power: 3148	glad I got it last night thats strange....... it was linking from the ATI site to the full 222meg SDK download, and yet I dont see it now on the MS site......

Dec 21, 2002, 03:53 AM	#30
*Zardon* lifeless Join Date: May 2002 Location: Driverheaven Posts: 31,957 Rep Power: 3148	ah ha found it 222 meg DX9 SDK download file found it here, and I would get it quick guys I cant see MS hosting this file forever. http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...bb3/dx9sdk.exe