OFFICIAL: ATI Catalyst Drivers version 3.0 PROBLEM THREAD

Rayder · Dec 21, 2002, 04:12 AM

Thanks Zardon, you da man!

RIV@NVX · Dec 21, 2002, 05:09 AM

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Originally posted by Zardon
found it here, and I would get it quick guys I cant see MS hosting this file forever.

http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...bb3/dx9sdk.exe

I will need 7 and half hours to get it on 64K ISDN (at full speed), so let's say 8 hours.
What do you think, is it worth getting? Will it be there the whole time?

RIV@NVX · Dec 21, 2002, 05:13 AM

Redist here - yay! Getting it (3% already) @ 7.72kbps - yeehaw!
(better than downloading 222MB SDK)

Rayder · Dec 21, 2002, 05:40 AM

I used FlashGet to d/l it. It came in at 72-77k per sec. it took about and hour. My Max speed is 80k per sec.....our ISP wants $10 more per month to uncap our speed....maybe one day.....

As to whether it's worth it.....I don't know, I just wanted to have the file.....just in case.....

Asmoday · Dec 21, 2002, 07:38 AM

I'm downloading it now @ ~780kB/s.......

Thanks for the link Zardon!!

AvA · Dec 21, 2002, 07:45 AM

Has anyone tried this set with a M7?

I hope this new set fixes some problems a lot of users has had with Cat. 2.5 (with NWN for instance)

Has the .inf file changed a lot? I'm not sure I could modify it to make it work with my Laptop, if the structure has been altered significantly.

Looking forward to hear some from a pioneer

RIV@NVX · Dec 21, 2002, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cartman
I'm downloading it now @ ~780kB/s.......
Thanks for the link Zardon!!

100 times of my connection speed

LeanWolf · Dec 21, 2002, 10:58 AM

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Has anyone tried this set with a M7?

just installed them on my laptop, everything looks fine so far..
i'll get back when i try NWN..

raid517 · Dec 21, 2002, 01:18 PM

Does anyone know why fast writes are disabled in the SMATGART section of control pannel? My 8500 should be fine with fast writes, but no matter how often I change this setting, the control pannel always switches it back. It seems ATI are telling me what is good for me, no matter whether I like it or not. Does anyone know a way to resolve this?

Regards,

Q

denis111 · Dec 21, 2002, 01:30 PM

Looks like, solved problems with NFS6 on 8500. The game runs fine on maximum special effects setting.

AvA · Dec 21, 2002, 01:58 PM

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just installed them on my laptop, everything looks fine so far..

Unfortunately I haven't had the time yet to check them by myself. I was looking though at the .ini and .inf files and they seem to have the usual structure; correct me if I'm wrong: the procedure to modify them should be the same as usual(Link to the forum thread...).

LeanWolf · Dec 21, 2002, 03:14 PM

yep, works like a charm.. NwN still doesn't work, but that's nothing new since catalyst 2.5. Bioware have fixed the problem, but only for 8500+ card holders.

Tynan · Dec 21, 2002, 04:05 PM

Ack!

Now it's refusing to detect my AGP as anything other than "nonexistent"!

Nothing 3d will run. 2d performance is really slow.

Anyone else had this problem? My system is now useless. This happens with any driver besides the one that came on the CD with my 9700 Pro.

How can I kill SMARTGART?

Tynan · Dec 21, 2002, 05:32 PM

All right, I fixed it by doing a super-clean install of Catalyst 3.0. Thanks for that guide Genius!

One thing though... I have no advanced control panel.

If I install the ATI control panel will it install SMARTGART? I know SMARTGART controls are on it and I don't want to risk ending up with no AGP again.

RIV@NVX · Dec 21, 2002, 05:40 PM

Well, I guess I will get back to 2.5...
OpenGL sucks.

orphic · Dec 22, 2002, 03:16 AM

I am using Windows 2000 Advanced Server w/ Service Pack 4 instlled...I am currently using a Radeon 7500 Radeon card...I just installed DirectX v9.0 and the new ATI Catalyst 3.0 driver. The problem I am having is that when I try to play any type of video whether it be Quicktime, AVI, MPEG, & DivX the video does not show up. The sound is great, but the the video screen stays black. Any ideas as to what I can do to rectify this?

UberLord · Dec 22, 2002, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RIV@NVX
Well, I guess I will get back to 2.5...
OpenGL sucks.

Try turning hardware acceleration down a notch. Fixed everything for me and seems t to make it a little faster

raid517 · Dec 22, 2002, 07:44 AM

Seriously guys.. does anyone know how to get rid of this SmartGart crap? I know what's good for me and I don't want ATI making up my mind for me... It says its diabled Fastwrites - and every time I try to change this and reboot (WinXP professional) it just reverts back. Arrrg! Its very annoying! I lost 500 points off 3D mark too...

Please can someone tell me how to fix this?

Q

UberLord · Dec 22, 2002, 07:56 AM

afaik you can't get rid of smartgart

Data1232 · Dec 22, 2002, 12:58 PM

How does Morrowind work in this set?

RIV@NVX · Dec 22, 2002, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by raid517
Seriously guys.. does anyone know how to get rid of this SmartGart crap? I know what's good for me and I don't want ATI making up my mind for me... It says its diabled Fastwrites - and every time I try to change this and reboot (WinXP professional) it just reverts back. Arrrg! Its very annoying! I lost 500 points off 3D mark too...

Please can someone tell me how to fix this?

Q

You can do nothing here.
Wait for ATI to release an updated version which will not disable it.

~~tenndevil~~ · Dec 22, 2002, 04:06 PM

I am Having a few problems with the atioglxx file causing some games to crash back to desktop. Had to go back to 2.5 to play games.

LeanWolf · Dec 22, 2002, 04:34 PM

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How does Morrowind work in this set?

no problems, everything's fine!

Paladin06 · Dec 22, 2002, 08:21 PM

OK, I did a clean install following the instructions posted a thisa site. Performance is still below the 2.5 drivers with 8.1 DX.

Also most of my games crash to DT after a very few minutes of play:

1. Ghost Recon
2. Desert Seige
3. Island Thunder
4. MOHAA Spearhead
5. The Thing

Any one want to take a stab at whY??

Quote:

Originally posted by Paladin06
OK, installed the new 3.0 ATI with DX9 and got a rather disappointing performance DECREASE to the tune of 300 points.

Also my system seems slow to respond in all operations. I mean normal window functions are very slow. What's that all about?

Necrosis · Dec 23, 2002, 12:26 AM

Paladin

Manually update your drivers from the ATI folder. What it is happening is the process for smartgart cannot start up because it cannot find the path to the file it needs. To verify this will work go under advanced properites for your card and see if Smart Gart is grayed out.

Paladin06 · Dec 23, 2002, 05:12 AM

UPDATE!!!!

Additional problem. Comanche4 has the Campaign and Multi-Player functions grayed out so I can not start the game at all!!!

I did try updating the drivers from the ATI folder as recommended but the SmartGart tab was never grayed out anyway.

Going back to Nvidia I think!!

Quote:

Originally posted by Paladin06
OK, I did a clean install following the instructions posted a thisa site. Performance is still below the 2.5 drivers with 8.1 DX.

Also most of my games crash to DT after a very few minutes of play:

1. Ghost Recon
2. Desert Seige
3. Island Thunder
4. MOHAA Spearhead
5. The Thing

Any one want to take a stab at whY??

Erroneus · Dec 23, 2002, 11:03 AM

Don't go back to Nvidia (they make mistakes often, I'll remember a lot of BSOD's with the 21.83 WHQL drivers) beacuase of a driverset which fucks op, then you soon ends up using SIS onboad gfx with xp standard drivers! Go back to 2.5 or wait for 3,1.

DaaT · Dec 23, 2002, 11:31 AM

From what i've read here and over at Rage3D, i'll be sticking with the 2.5s for now, though i installed DX9.

And why oh why don't they get rid of Dumbgart...

DaaT

***Zardon*** · Dec 23, 2002, 11:42 AM

Guys ive been speaking with ATI on the phone today and they wish for our members to post any details they have regarding installation of the new Catalyst Driver set V3. There have been alot of reported problems regarding the OpenGL, and stuttering.

If you are having problems please post as much detail as you can regarding the issue and any possible fixes you may have for it.

They will be checking in on this thread.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Dec 23, 2002, 11:47 AM

my radeon been messed up sence 2.5's and the 3.0's are not any better I talked to ati about my card and the issued me an rma # but there is to many people have the same problem for it to be a hardware issues.. tried one card on two diffrent sytems same problems... I bet it's the drivers I din't have problems with the 2.3/2.4's my games freeze and somtimes i loose video and it freazes you can hear the loop back sound through my speakers... what is ati doing???

Dec 21, 2002, 05:13 AM	#33
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,480 Rep Power: 53 System Specs	Redist here - yay! Getting it (3% already) @ 7.72kbps - yeehaw! (better than downloading 222MB SDK) __________________ -- Vedran

Dec 21, 2002, 07:38 AM	#35
Asmoday Demonic Join Date: May 2002 Location: In the cold, dark north... Posts: 5,184 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	I'm downloading it now @ ~780kB/s....... Thanks for the link Zardon!! __________________ How You can help Driverheaven by using Digg

Dec 21, 2002, 07:45 AM	#36
AvA DH Aficionado Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Italy Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	Mobility 7500 Has anyone tried this set with a M7? I hope this new set fixes some problems a lot of users has had with Cat. 2.5 (with NWN for instance) Has the .inf file changed a lot? I'm not sure I could modify it to make it work with my Laptop, if the structure has been altered significantly. Looking forward to hear some from a pioneer

Dec 21, 2002, 01:30 PM	#40
denis111 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Moscow Posts: 51 Rep Power: 0	Looks like, solved problems with NFS6 on 8500. The game runs fine on maximum special effects setting. __________________ P4(willamette (0.18)) 1.7@2ghz(fsb 118); Asus P4P800(i865PE); 512mb DDR333 SEC (single-channel); Radeon 9800 non-pro @ 402/370; SB Audigy

Dec 21, 2002, 03:14 PM	#42
LeanWolf alpha male Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: offpiste Posts: 5,571 Rep Power: 56 System Specs	yep, works like a charm.. NwN still doesn't work, but that's nothing new since catalyst 2.5. Bioware have fixed the problem, but only for 8500+ card holders. __________________

Dec 21, 2002, 04:12 AM	#31
Rayder Mostly lurking lately.... Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 2,043 Rep Power: 51	Thanks Zardon, you da man!

Dec 21, 2002, 05:40 AM	#34
Rayder Mostly lurking lately.... Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 2,043 Rep Power: 51	I used FlashGet to d/l it. It came in at 72-77k per sec. it took about and hour. My Max speed is 80k per sec.....our ISP wants $10 more per month to uncap our speed....maybe one day..... As to whether it's worth it.....I don't know, I just wanted to have the file.....just in case.....

Dec 21, 2002, 01:18 PM	#39
raid517 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,518 Rep Power: 0	Does anyone know why fast writes are disabled in the SMATGART section of control pannel? My 8500 should be fine with fast writes, but no matter how often I change this setting, the control pannel always switches it back. It seems ATI are telling me what is good for me, no matter whether I like it or not. Does anyone know a way to resolve this? Regards, Q

Dec 21, 2002, 04:05 PM	#43
Tynan DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Ack! Now it's refusing to detect my AGP as anything other than "nonexistent"! Nothing 3d will run. 2d performance is really slow. Anyone else had this problem? My system is now useless. This happens with any driver besides the one that came on the CD with my 9700 Pro. How can I kill SMARTGART?

Dec 21, 2002, 05:32 PM	#44
Tynan DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	All right, I fixed it by doing a super-clean install of Catalyst 3.0. Thanks for that guide Genius! One thing though... I have no advanced control panel. If I install the ATI control panel will it install SMARTGART? I know SMARTGART controls are on it and I don't want to risk ending up with no AGP again.

Dec 21, 2002, 05:40 PM	#45
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,480 Rep Power: 53 System Specs	Well, I guess I will get back to 2.5... OpenGL sucks. __________________ -- Vedran

Dec 22, 2002, 03:16 AM	#46
orphic DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	ATI Radeon 7500 Problems... I am using Windows 2000 Advanced Server w/ Service Pack 4 instlled...I am currently using a Radeon 7500 Radeon card...I just installed DirectX v9.0 and the new ATI Catalyst 3.0 driver. The problem I am having is that when I try to play any type of video whether it be Quicktime, AVI, MPEG, & DivX the video does not show up. The sound is great, but the the video screen stays black. Any ideas as to what I can do to rectify this? __________________ Wisdom begins in wonder.

Dec 22, 2002, 07:44 AM	#48
raid517 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,518 Rep Power: 0	Seriously guys.. does anyone know how to get rid of this SmartGart crap? I know what's good for me and I don't want ATI making up my mind for me... It says its diabled Fastwrites - and every time I try to change this and reboot (WinXP professional) it just reverts back. Arrrg! Its very annoying! I lost 500 points off 3D mark too... Please can someone tell me how to fix this? Q

Dec 22, 2002, 07:56 AM	#49
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Dec 22, 2002, 04:06 PM	#52
~~tenndevil~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 129 Rep Power: 0	I am Having a few problems with the atioglxx file causing some games to crash back to desktop. Had to go back to 2.5 to play games.

Dec 23, 2002, 11:03 AM	#57
Erroneus Loving my Windows 7 Ent. Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 12,921 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	LOL Don't go back to Nvidia (they make mistakes often, I'll remember a lot of BSOD's with the 21.83 WHQL drivers) beacuase of a driverset which fucks op, then you soon ends up using SIS onboad gfx with xp standard drivers! Go back to 2.5 or wait for 3,1. __________________

Dec 23, 2002, 11:31 AM	#58
DaaT DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	From what i've read here and over at Rage3D, i'll be sticking with the 2.5s for now, though i installed DX9. And why oh why don't they get rid of Dumbgart... DaaT

Dec 23, 2002, 11:42 AM	#59
*Zardon* enchanted Join Date: May 2002 Location: Driverheaven Posts: 32,283 Rep Power: 3150	OFFICIAL: ATI Catalyst Drivers version 3.0 PROBLEM THREAD Guys ive been speaking with ATI on the phone today and they wish for our members to post any details they have regarding installation of the new Catalyst Driver set V3. There have been alot of reported problems regarding the OpenGL, and stuttering. If you are having problems please post as much detail as you can regarding the issue and any possible fixes you may have for it. They will be checking in on this thread.

Dec 23, 2002, 11:47 AM	#60
The_Neon_Cowboy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,135 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	my radeon been furbar sence 2.5's my radeon been messed up sence 2.5's and the 3.0's are not any better I talked to ati about my card and the issued me an rma # but there is to many people have the same problem for it to be a hardware issues.. tried one card on two diffrent sytems same problems... I bet it's the drivers I din't have problems with the 2.3/2.4's my games freeze and somtimes i loose video and it freazes you can hear the loop back sound through my speakers... what is ati doing??? __________________