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Old Jul 14, 2005, 03:23 PM   #1
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uhm why was nothing fixed for BF2 in cat 5.7s...

So I have been eagerly awaiting the catalyst 5.7 drivers as I was hoping they would fix a multitude of issues I have been having with BF2 (texture corruption, blocky shadows, desktop crashes, etc), as well as maybe providing some performance gains, and don't ya know not ONE fix for BF2 is mentioned in the 5.7 release notes. The ONLY BF2 mention is under 'known' issues, namely texture corruption/missing textures.

Dissapointing to say the least...
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Old Jul 14, 2005, 03:33 PM   #2
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i don't have bf2 myself but was the 5.6's recommended for this game upon release.

Bare in mind that ATI actually work on drivers,around 3 revisions in front of the public realease..and BF2 has only been recently released..future improvements may well be fixed given time. all could go by reporting bug errors,this may speed up the fixes of these problems.
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So I have been eagerly awaiting the catalyst 5.7 drivers as I was hoping they would fix a multitude of issues I have been having with BF2 (texture corruption, blocky shadows, desktop crashes, etc), as well as maybe providing some performance gains, and don't ya know not ONE fix for BF2 is mentioned in the 5.7 release notes. The ONLY BF2 mention is under 'known' issues, namely texture corruption/missing textures.

Dissapointing to say the least...

I feel your pain., I was also hoping for a fix for the texture corruption this release.
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Old Jul 14, 2005, 04:06 PM   #4
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Dumbass ATI. I seem to remember a driver built just for Doom3 as if they couldnt have done the same for BF2 its been an entire month since the demo.
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Old Jul 14, 2005, 04:23 PM   #5
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And the demo was basically a poor beta... if you have the full game the quality is 10 times better on the full game then the beta (demo) was. Truefully it is BF fault for such poorly done game... i would expect a patch for the game though from the fokes that made it to fix the issues before ati. As for a special version for the game... i play on my 9800 on the full version with no glitchs... i get some graphic issues here and there but this is still a new game.
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Old Jul 14, 2005, 05:12 PM   #6
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I would also like a HOTFIX release for BF2

Cmon ATi Show Nvidia they can't make our gaming experience suck with there made for Nvidia Titles!
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Old Jul 14, 2005, 07:36 PM   #7
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MIG is right. You guys need to relax, and be patient. ATI will work the issues out in future releases just as DICE will work their issues out with subsequent patches.

If you remember Cataslyt 4.8 just came out when Doom 3 got released. Humus had a temp fix for us, and then ATI issued 4.9 betas to help with performance, but it wasn't until 4.10 that they nailed it. Besides, for Doom3 it was easier to figure out the problem since it was centered around OGL. In BF2s case a lot of people, myself included, have zero problems with the game, and I've run it on multiple ATI cards from 9500s to X800s, and Nvidia 6600-6800s. However, I've ran the game only on Intel boards, and not AMD ones. So far the majority of issues I've seen are from those that have AMD boards, or Intel boards that don't use their chipset to run. So, is it really an issue with the ATI drivers, or is it a chipset issue? It'll take time for them to reproduce the issues, and figure out a solution as the number of factors that can be causing this problem are too numerous to mention.

And remember, Nvidia had a ton of time to release a specific driver since they worked with DICE directly just as they did with id Software for Doom3. So, just be patient.
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I think it could be ea fault guys not ati or nvidia ea did poll the patch before lol I don't have game my self so I don't know
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Yeah, I was hoping that the 5.7s would fix the problem. Oh well..
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As buggy as BF2 is I really think it's EA and not ATI, hopefully EA will get a "real" patch out soon.

I have really been disappointed in the quality of Game releases, boxed, game makers need to do more testing......Its really common for games to have at least 3 patches and even more 7+

I know many people would like to start playing the game ASAP, but I would rather wait 1week-1month long to get a less buggy game of the store shelf.
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So I have been eagerly awaiting the catalyst 5.7 drivers as I was hoping they would fix a multitude of issues I have been having with BF2 (texture corruption, blocky shadows, desktop crashes, etc), as well as maybe providing some performance gains, and don't ya know not ONE fix for BF2 is mentioned in the 5.7 release notes. The ONLY BF2 mention is under 'known' issues, namely texture corruption/missing textures.
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Dissapointing to say the least...

No amount on their end will fix a poorly coded game like BF2.
Like desktop crashes, Blocky shadows you know the same stuff
going on NVIDIA cards was well. The game uses 3 to 4 times the
resoucres as Hl2 and Doom 3 and yet offers 2/10ths the IQ.
Verry disapointing...

That game needs major work so much in fact I refuse to buy it until I see a
major patch. That tiny spit and polish patch they released doesn’t count.

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i don't have bf2 myself but was the 5.6's recommended for this game upon release.

Bare in mind that ATI actually work on drivers,around 3 revisions in front of the public realease..and BF2 has only been recently released..future improvements may well be fixed given time. all could go by reporting bug errors,this may speed up the fixes of these problems.
Those with issues upon the demo release and 5.6 people were reccomended
like use like cat 5.2 by the BF2 people becouse of the "known" on thier end
issues with 5.6.

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Dumbass ATI. I seem to remember a driver built just for Doom3 as if they couldnt have done the same for BF2 its been an entire month since the demo.
It wasn't build jus for doom 3 but they chaged some things becouse of some propritary
ways of doing things and that was already worked out ahead with nvidia.


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And the demo was basically a poor beta... if you have the full game the quality is 10 times better on the full game then the beta (demo) was. Truefully it is BF fault for such poorly done game... i would expect a patch for the game though from the fokes that made it to fix the issues before ati. As for a special version for the game... i play on my 9800 on the full version with no glitchs... i get some graphic issues here and there but this is still a new game.
The demo was like a poor beta but i her the same issues with the full version wich must
be like a slightly better beta being only a month newer... BF2 people need to be shot
or tought how to code a game properly. Most issues stem from thier codeing, precacheing
100% of everything etc... putting a massive uneeded strain on the system... The game
does need alot of video power to play but it massive system power.

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I would also like a HOTFIX release for BF2

Cmon ATi Show Nvidia they can't make our gaming experience suck with there made for Nvidia Titles!
I would like a real patch for Bf2, But want in one hand and crap in the other
see wich fills up 1st

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MIG is right. You guys need to relax, and be patient. ATI will work the issues out in future releases just as DICE will work their issues out with subsequent patches.

If you remember Cataslyt 4.8 just came out when Doom 3 got released. Humus had a temp fix for us, and then ATI issued 4.9 betas to help with performance, but it wasn't until 4.10 that they nailed it. Besides, for Doom3 it was easier to figure out the problem since it was centered around OGL. In BF2s case a lot of people, myself included, have zero problems with the game, and I've run it on multiple ATI cards from 9500s to X800s, and Nvidia 6600-6800s. However, I've ran the game only on Intel boards, and not AMD ones. So far the majority of issues I've seen are from those that have AMD boards, or Intel boards that don't use their chipset to run. So, is it really an issue with the ATI drivers, or is it a chipset issue? It'll take time for them to reproduce the issues, and figure out a solution as the number of factors that can be causing this problem are too numerous to mention.

And remember, Nvidia had a ton of time to release a specific driver since they worked with DICE directly just as they did with id Software for Doom3. So, just be patient.
Humas patch fixed the games codeing blunders and improved they way the game ran
on ati....Alot of what happening on ati cards is happeing on nvidia cards with BF2

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As buggy as BF2 is I really think it's EA and not ATI, hopefully EA will get a "real" patch out soon.

I have really been disappointed in the quality of Game releases, boxed, game makers need to do more testing......Its really common for games to have at least 3 patches and even more 7+

I know many people would like to start playing
the game ASAP, but I would rather wait 1week-1month long to get a less buggy game of the store shelf.
I hope so to.... then I might buy it...

they need to introduce some dynamic loading and cut the lets pre cache 100% and
waste resources like no other game BS. I mean come on the minum for smooth play
in the game shouldn't be 1.5GB required and 2.0 GB of ram reccomended there
is a massive differeance in smothness game play and issues with more memory.

I had 1.5 GB in took out 512 and was like AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!! now I see what
people are complaing about . With 1.5 GB of ram the game uses about 850 mb of
ram 850 mb of page file. Thats insane!!!

I'm sure there some stuff ATI can and will do from thier end but there is only so much
thier going to be able to do. The Bf2 people needs to get on the ball... Also remember
guys that drivers are releases a head and it takes time for changes and fixes
to trickle down through the process.

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Cowboy you must be playing a different game or frankly you just arent good at it cause I've got a less than stellar system yet even it runs well for me and almost all real gameplay issues have to do with the people playing (punishing for tks, point whores) not the balancing or bugs in the game. I dunno how you can even make so many assumptions based on the demo when the retail game has far more functionality and so few issues.

Your money would be well spent on this game in fact its the only FPS in at least a few years worth buying the rest are all singleplayer based with no replay value.

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BF2 sux anyways.. so i see why they aren't intrigued to fix some bugs..
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Old Jul 15, 2005, 01:19 AM   #14
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No amount on their end will fix a poorly coded game like BF2.
Like desktop crashes, Blocky shadows you know the same stuff
going on NVIDIA cards was well. The game uses 3 to 4 times the
resoucres as Hl2 and Doom 3 and yet offers 2/10ths the IQ.
Verry disapointing...
I agree 110%. WIth my x800 pro I was able to run Far Cry at 1280X1024 w/ 4x AA and 8x AF, the only slowdowns on the super intensive maps like volcano... BF2 for all its touted 'eye candy' doesn't come CLOSE to that IQ, but im struggling running it at 1280X960 (since they decided not to support the masses with X1024) w/ 4xAA and NO AF?? yeah right....
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BF2 sux anyways.. so i see why they aren't intrigued to fix some bugs..
Oh, yeah, I'm sure that's it...
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well i know alot of people who got even more problems after patching BF2 so like some others it is time for EA DICE or whoever to get a real fat bug fix patch for BFD2 or it is gonna be a a game like anyother game and not that top notch they hoped for nah DF black hawk down is better actually a great game well ya always gonna have VC or HL2 to lean back on until BF2 is patched up right now it is a (bleeding soldier on a battlefield that needs a medic real soon) * joke*

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Dumbass ATI. I seem to remember a driver built just for Doom3 as if they couldnt have done the same for BF2 its been an entire month since the demo.
They put a fix in the driver for an optimized calculation so that you wouldn't have to do the D3 mod, it's not like they were pulling nvidia type bullshit. BF2 works fine no corruption for me high 2/4 AA. I know BF2 has had some problems on ATI, not surprising since it's a "you're supposed to buy nvidia because they payed us to screw up the game with other cards, or you won't be able to play it the way it was meant to be played" game.
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i seriously think that sometimes they intentionally leave the bugs in some games just so it runs smoother on the video card companies product that developed it with them. i mean, we all know nvidia can play dirty and im sure ati has had a few tricks up there sleeves in other games
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Cowboy you must be playing a different game or frankly you just arent good at it cause I've got a less than stellar system yet even it runs well for me and almost all real gameplay issues have to do with the people playing (punishing for tks, point whores) not the balancing or bugs in the game. I dunno how you can even make so many assumptions based on the demo when the retail game has far more functionality and so few issues.

Your money would be well spent on this game in fact its the only FPS in at least a few years worth buying the rest are all singleplayer based with no replay value.
Geeze if If i hate to make a list of bugs with the game i'd be up all night .
Serious issues with bullets / damage delt.

I've seen our team MEC hold all points for alost the entire round and then no less then 2/3 and lose?? I've watched the numbers that count down count up a few . I've seen allied hold only 1 point all round and win. I've been Killed , no killer listed!!! not even that I was killed, seen people that can't be ran over they goto the side and never die. Hit one guy three times dead center of the vehickle high speed. Killed by one shot all weapons. Emptied whole clips into players clean hitz to have then turn and kill me instantly. Had players I watched run then and "vanish" in an open space and then kill me a few seconds later. Guns are really inaccurate sometimes. Some guns never are...

That was just last night LOL

Same goes for the list of "WTF" like where the enginers dynamite, where are real anti air
craft weapons? turrents? those 2 shot missle turnets is affetive as throwing rocks most of the time. Apaches and back hawks have way to much armor. A single RPG / Tank shot should bring them down not 2 or 3!! Mecs can't use allied turrents on thier ship, then allied should not be able to steal MEC vehikles and vice versa. APCs "light armor" should die with 1 tank hit not 3!!

Geeze and that just what I could think of in like 3 minutes, but there are pages of stuff that should be fix, changed, adressed. I'd settle for the bugs being resolved . That and for them to use some dynamic loading like everyone else!
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well i know alot of people who got even more problems after patching BF2 so like some others it is time for EA DICE or whoever to get a real fat bug fix patch for BFD2 or it is gonna be a a game like anyother game and not that top notch they hoped for nah DF black hawk down is better actually a great game well ya always gonna have VC or HL2 to lean back on until BF2 is patched up right now it is a (bleeding soldier on a battlefield that needs a medic real soon) * joke*

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.. dude... please, please use some puncuation. .. so hard to read your post. Almost seems like your wired or something.

People seem to forget that the guy that created the ATI D3 "mod", Humus, works for ATI. It was an "easy" (at least for a programmer that is) fix since all it did was alter the way the game makes texture reads. ATI altered their drivers to include this fix. Fun thing was that this "mod", when used on Nvidia cards, turned them into slugs. Something like this isn't going to come "easy" for ATI with this game... if it is an ATI driver problem, which I doubt since this problem isn't effecting everyone. Blaming them isn't going to solve squat. My money is on either it being EA/DICEs messup, or some combinatoin of motherboard chipset driver screwing with ATIs driver.

For all those having texture corruption, have you tried updating your motherboard chipset drivers at all? Specifically the ones to do with video?

Here's a question I know ATI is asking: For those having texture/graphics corruption, what CPU are you using? AMD or Intel? What about chipset? Intel, Nvidia, SIS, VIA, AMD or ALi?

As you can see by my sig I have Intel made board, run by an Intel chipset, and an ATI X800XTPE. Latest drivers all around except I'm using the Catatlyst 5.6 Omegas, and no problems at all here.

So, again, for those having problems, can you post your specs, mobo, cpu, mobo driver version?
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Cpu: Intel P4 3.00GHZ Northwood

MOBO: ASUS P4GD1 I915

GFX: P.C X800 256MB GDDR3 PCI-E

Hercules muse 5.1 Soundcard

have´nt updated chipset drivers nor bios and no i don´t have texture corruption in BF2 or if do i am half blind since i can´t see them.

So how do they appear what they look like so i know what to look for next time.

And do they only appear in multiplayer(onlin) or in singleplayer as well???

4XAA 8xAF no probs runs fine although i play singleplayer never liked online gaming
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The glitches Neon Cowboy has stated have been very annoying outweighing the fun factor at times. Recently, I've been playing CS:S just because it loads faster, has way the hell less lag, and doesn't have BF2 glitches.
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Geeze if If i hate to make a list of bugs with the game i'd be up all night .
Serious issues with bullets / damage delt.
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Agree with all you said TBH ....... have you seen the laws of BF2 ???

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1. If you spot an enemy before he sees you, chances are you will die.

2. The probability of killing someone is inversely proportional to how much you want to kill him.

3. For every good thing done, something bad happens.

4. If you see a bunch of easy targets in front of you, you will miss all of them and die.

5.You have a better chance of throwing a handfull of sniper rifle bullets and killing the enemy, than shooting them at him.

6.For every one enemy you kill with mines, you will kill 2 friendlies and they will both punish the TK.

7.Idiots have a unique pheromone receptor which can sense a friendly arty strike. Once initiated they run to the center of the strike like moths to a flame, thrust their noses in the air and put there finger on the PgDn button ready for the climax!

8.Thou shalt always respawn into an arty strike or a massive unfriendly assault and die before you can do anything.

9.A dune buggy slowly slipping down a gentle slope is the most brutal and deadly thing in the game if you're standing in its path.

10.When fleeing from an enemy, you will be shot to death, inches away from your cover.

11.when a gunner in a helo, chances are u got the worst pilot u can think of

12.When you have no money chances are your joystick will go funny.

13.If someone with an ak101 happens to glance at