Jk2:JA and x850xt, unplayable fps

Son_of_Thunder · Jun 1, 2005, 03:10 AM

Since I installed JK2: Jedi Academy on my desktop I've been getting some big performance problems. I think I've narrowed it down to a driver issue, but I've tried a bunch of different driver sets and none help. Before I get into the problem I'll list the sets I've tried:

5.4 x64 drivers
5.4 omega's (I dual boot)
5.5 Cats
5.4 Cats

Even though it shouldn't matter i'll post the different settings i play at:

16xaf, 6xaa, 1280x1024 w/ full in game details gives me 20 fps w/ drops down to 8 or 9.
noaf, noaa, 1024x768 gives me 40 fps w/ drops down to the mid 30's.
noaf, noaa 800x600 gives me 50 fps w/ drops down to the mid 40's.

This performance is unacceptable.

I don't know what could be causing this other than drivers, but I've tried almost everything that works with a Pci-Express card. On a side note, my laptop plays this game at a comfortable 45 fps at 1024x768 with high ingame settings and no aa or af. That's about the same as the above, but it's with a 1.5ghz centrino and a 9700m.

Just to rule out a hardware issue, CS:S and 3dm2003 run great.

ChoGGi · Jun 1, 2005, 03:47 AM

isnt that jk3

its based on the quake3 engine game. try the q3 demo and see how that runs.
ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/qua...32/Q3ADemo.exe

Son_of_Thunder · Jun 1, 2005, 04:44 AM

Even though I've always had a low self esteem in other areas, I've always considered myself to be smart. I mean, I got a 3.3gpa in high school even though I dropped out for a semester, I scored a 96 on the ASVABs, I currently have a college GPA of 3.93, and I've ended up being a teacher aide rather than a student in more than one class. That being said, the numbering system for the Jedi Knight series will baffle me until I die.

It's one of the weirdest series out there. It uses a similar theory to what Robert Rodriguez has thought about doing with the El Mariachi series, make two trilogies out of 5 movies, or in this case 4.

Depending on how you look at the Jedi Knight series Jedi Academy could be considered number 2, 3, or 4. I said JK2:JA because of two reasons, first, it's the second game to have the general foremost label of Jedi Knight. Secondly it's almost identical to JK2: Jedi Outcast, so it's hard for me to consider it a completely different game. I mean here's the list:

Dark Forces
Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight
Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast
Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy

So what the hell is Jedi Academy considered? They don't give it a proper label at all!

Anyways, it's getting too late now, I'll try running quake 3 tomorrow. I may also track down SoF2 and JK2: Jedi Outcast.

ChoGGi · Jun 1, 2005, 06:15 AM

wowzers

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Jun 1, 2005, 04:54 PM

confusing series indeed.

try older older catalyst set like 4.4 or something. im surprised, for a q3 engine game i still cant max out the settings on it. volumetric shadows look odd at times, but they give it good depth

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jun 1, 2005, 09:37 PM

Maybe its just OGL in general, is there an option for OGL you're setting incorrectly> AFAIK most of those are OGL

Son_of_Thunder · Jun 1, 2005, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiGBrOwNPimpsta

confusing series indeed.

try older older catalyst set like 4.4 or something. im surprised, for a q3 engine game i still cant max out the settings on it. volumetric shadows look odd at times, but they give it good depth

I can't, I need something that supports the x850 series.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jun 2, 2005, 02:51 AM

try 4.12

thegave · Jun 2, 2005, 05:47 AM

which is the newest and most played? i need to get some decent fps/thirdperson lightsabre action after watching all the movies up to five. six is on tv on sunday night. local cable doing a special running one episode a week to coincide with the launch. fxxxing ads draw it out 20% longer.

oh yeah when i say most played i'm talking in terms of mulitplayer.. don't really want to do some stupid mission and cut up AI...

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jun 2, 2005, 11:18 AM

Maybe you need a tweaker to turn off some OGL settings like forcing buffer depths

SoCalMX70 · Jun 2, 2005, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegave

which is the newest and most played? i need to get some decent fps/thirdperson lightsabre action after watching all the movies up to five. six is on tv on sunday night. local cable doing a special running one episode a week to coincide with the launch. fxxxing ads draw it out 20% longer.

oh yeah when i say most played i'm talking in terms of mulitplayer.. don't really want to do some stupid mission and cut up AI...

Get Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy... population online WAS down, but now it's pretty good since the movie came out....

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jun 2, 2005, 03:03 PM

Jedi Knight 2 still has a large large presence online. You can't loose either way

Jun 1, 2005, 03:10 AM	#1
Son_of_Thunder DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 1,434 Rep Power: 37 System Specs	Jk2:JA and x850xt, unplayable fps Since I installed JK2: Jedi Academy on my desktop I've been getting some big performance problems. I think I've narrowed it down to a driver issue, but I've tried a bunch of different driver sets and none help. Before I get into the problem I'll list the sets I've tried: 5.4 x64 drivers 5.4 omega's (I dual boot) 5.5 Cats 5.4 Cats Even though it shouldn't matter i'll post the different settings i play at: 16xaf, 6xaa, 1280x1024 w/ full in game details gives me 20 fps w/ drops down to 8 or 9. noaf, noaa, 1024x768 gives me 40 fps w/ drops down to the mid 30's. noaf, noaa 800x600 gives me 50 fps w/ drops down to the mid 40's. This performance is unacceptable. I don't know what could be causing this other than drivers, but I've tried almost everything that works with a Pci-Express card. On a side note, my laptop plays this game at a comfortable 45 fps at 1024x768 with high ingame settings and no aa or af. That's about the same as the above, but it's with a 1.5ghz centrino and a 9700m. Just to rule out a hardware issue, CS:S and 3dm2003 run great. __________________

Jun 1, 2005, 03:47 AM	#2
ChoGGi DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,211 Rep Power: 0	isnt that jk3 its based on the quake3 engine game. try the q3 demo and see how that runs. ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/qua...32/Q3ADemo.exe __________________ specs Common Problems and Fixes for your Radeon

Jun 1, 2005, 04:44 AM	#3
Son_of_Thunder DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 1,434 Rep Power: 37 System Specs	Even though I've always had a low self esteem in other areas, I've always considered myself to be smart. I mean, I got a 3.3gpa in high school even though I dropped out for a semester, I scored a 96 on the ASVABs, I currently have a college GPA of 3.93, and I've ended up being a teacher aide rather than a student in more than one class. That being said, the numbering system for the Jedi Knight series will baffle me until I die. It's one of the weirdest series out there. It uses a similar theory to what Robert Rodriguez has thought about doing with the El Mariachi series, make two trilogies out of 5 movies, or in this case 4. Depending on how you look at the Jedi Knight series Jedi Academy could be considered number 2, 3, or 4. I said JK2:JA because of two reasons, first, it's the second game to have the general foremost label of Jedi Knight. Secondly it's almost identical to JK2: Jedi Outcast, so it's hard for me to consider it a completely different game. I mean here's the list: Dark Forces Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy So what the hell is Jedi Academy considered? They don't give it a proper label at all! Anyways, it's getting too late now, I'll try running quake 3 tomorrow. I may also track down SoF2 and JK2: Jedi Outcast. __________________

Jun 1, 2005, 06:15 AM	#4
ChoGGi DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,211 Rep Power: 0	wowzers __________________ specs Common Problems and Fixes for your Radeon

Jun 1, 2005, 04:54 PM	#5
BiGBrOwNPimpsta DH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,224 Rep Power: 64 System Specs	confusing series indeed. try older older catalyst set like 4.4 or something. im surprised, for a q3 engine game i still cant max out the settings on it. volumetric shadows look odd at times, but they give it good depth __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| ATI TV Wonder Elite \| Logitech G7 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Jun 1, 2005, 09:37 PM	#6
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,818 Rep Power: 0	Maybe its just OGL in general, is there an option for OGL you're setting incorrectly> AFAIK most of those are OGL

Jun 2, 2005, 02:51 AM	#8
The_Neon_Cowboy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,135 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	try 4.12 __________________

Jun 2, 2005, 05:47 AM	#9
thegave -=[DHzer0point Team]=- Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 96 Rep Power: 0	which is the newest and most played? i need to get some decent fps/thirdperson lightsabre action after watching all the movies up to five. six is on tv on sunday night. local cable doing a special running one episode a week to coincide with the launch. fxxxing ads draw it out 20% longer. oh yeah when i say most played i'm talking in terms of mulitplayer.. don't really want to do some stupid mission and cut up AI...

Jun 2, 2005, 11:18 AM	#10
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,818 Rep Power: 0	Maybe you need a tweaker to turn off some OGL settings like forcing buffer depths

Jun 2, 2005, 03:03 PM	#12
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,818 Rep Power: 0	Jedi Knight 2 still has a large large presence online. You can't loose either way