Catalyst 5.5 Released (Discussion Thread)

kenphjr · May 18, 2005, 10:22 AM

I noticed that open GL benchmarks such as GLExcess and Quake3 bench seem to be way higher on my rig than with all previous drivers-GLExcess went from 11,000-14,000 range and I'm getting 318+ fps at 1280x1024 max settings in Q3 Bench-That's about the best I've seen on my machine

terror_adagio · May 18, 2005, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by UnTouchAble

No, in the last 5x sets (after 5.1) there was an issue with CSS and sluggish performance, now if i put 5.2, 5.3 etc on, i get horrible performance, if i go back to 5.1, 4.12 it plays smooth.

Yeah, this started happening after 5.1. It was a buffer problem, which was supposed to be fixed after 5.4, so if you try 5.5, it should be fine now.

UnTouchAble · May 18, 2005, 02:59 PM

Ok, im gonna try, if it lagg,s I'm comming for you! :P

jeboos · May 18, 2005, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by UnTouchAble

No, in the last 5x sets (after 5.1) there was an issue with CSS and sluggish performance, now if i put 5.2, 5.3 etc on, i get horrible performance, if i go back to 5.1, 4.12 it plays smooth.

i have the same problem on my 9800 pro, if something changes please let everybody know

Poppi · May 18, 2005, 03:46 PM

Please see attached thread and ocicide's post. Same problem as I posted earlier with Trackmania Sunrise. CRASHES!!! ATI, since this is a brand new game, can you release a hot fix?

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...3815925&page=2

Rasta Monsta · May 18, 2005, 05:48 PM

I am getting weird flashes in 3D games. . .like random portions of a scene that was already rendered pops in an out, like it is spitting out chunks of vid memory.

rasta

The_Neon_Cowboy · May 18, 2005, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by UnTouchAble

No, in the last 5x sets (after 5.1) there was an issue with CSS and sluggish performance, now if i put 5.2, 5.3 etc on, i get horrible performance, if i go back to 5.1, 4.12 it plays smooth.

Tested the way I play:

X800XL , 3400+ AMD 64, 1GB RAM

Tested @ 1024X768X32bit No AA/AF
the ati slider on performance
In game settings lowerd

Souce bench results:

Cat 4.12
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Run 1: 136.04
Run 2: 135.41
Run 3: 136.44
Adverage: 135.96

Cat 5.5
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Run 1: 136.99
Run 2: 135.42
Run 3: 135.09
Adverage: 135.83

So there isn't much difference in CS: S performance with the excpetions that IQ has improved aross the board since 4.12

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Originally Posted by magnus33

the halflife 2 issue has nothing to do with ati and is a result of halflife's stream update.

it has the same affect on nvidia.

I'd say so the game is a "beta" and is never any final build. They keep makeing alterations, changes to the games, maps and content. Since released steam and CS: source and HL2 have been updated so many times i've lost count sometime last year.

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Originally Posted by germanjulian

is there any point upgrading with my 9800pro?

Yes, Numerious bug fixes includeing some performace issues, updated CCC etc...

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Originally Posted by UnTouchAble

"Half-Life 2: Having the display set to 1024x768 32bpp and setting the video options in the game set to 1600x1200 and all other options set to their maximum values results in sluggish performance and missing textures. Topic number 737-10086"

I wont use these..

Well did you read that? If you not playing with your desktop 1024X768X32bit and in game 1600X1200 with everything cranked to thier maximum.. then its nothing to worry about.

Most people play at lower resoultions like 1024X768 anyways

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Originally Posted by Poppi

Can anyone tell me why Trackmania Sunrise (Full Game) keeps rebooting my computer when implementing command prompts (restart, quit, etc.) in the game, while using the 5.5s? It occurs about 10 minutes after playing. After each reboot I kept tweaking the games configuration to no avail.

Furthering, after the 5th reboot I lost my source file and all my earned medals in the races! Anyway, converting back to the 5.4s solved the problem. Clean install for both drivers.

I can safely say this is a 5.5 driver issue. Any help?

I just downloaded the demo i'll get back with you....

BWX · May 18, 2005, 08:00 PM

Can someone try custom resolutions? Particularly 1200 x 900? I want to check these out- but not if custom resolutions don't work. I haven't had the CCC installed on this win-install yet ever.

The_Neon_Cowboy · May 18, 2005, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poppi

Please see attached thread and ocicide's post. Same problem as I posted earlier with Trackmania Sunrise. CRASHES!!! ATI, since this is a brand new game, can you release a hot fix?
2

There is a problem I've just reported it to the proper people...
I would urge you to go a head and submit a bug report via the ATI website
feedback form...

Zorg · May 18, 2005, 10:14 PM

I am truly amazed ATi fixing bugs game by game and whatever viewer - I always thought a professional driver design just works for all software. Ati drivers seem to look which application/game is loaded and accordingly reshuffle the driver? WTH…

terror_adagio · May 18, 2005, 10:52 PM

Cat 4.12:

Half-Life 2 Stress - 130.40fps
Doom 3 - 72.3fps
Halo - 84.16fps

Cat 5.5:

Half-Life 2 Stress - 136.10fps
Doom 3 - 73.3fps
Halo - 87.87fps

3DMark05 went up around 150, 3DMark03 went down a few hundred.

X800 XT PE.

jeboos · May 19, 2005, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by terror_adagio

Cat 4.12:

Half-Life 2 Stress - 130.40fps
Doom 3 - 72.3fps
Halo - 84.16fps

Cat 5.5:

Half-Life 2 Stress - 136.10fps
Doom 3 - 73.3fps
Halo - 87.87fps

3DMark05 went up around 150, 3DMark03 went down a few hundred.

X800 XT PE.

ok, but has anybody tested this driver in H-L2 on 9800 pro? is it better than 5.1?
because 5.2, 5.3 and 5.4 were horrible and fps sometimes go down from 180 to 35 or maybe is it a problem with the game, but then why on 5.1 it's running perfect?

Poppi · May 19, 2005, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy

There is a problem I've just reported it to the proper people...
I would urge you to go a head and submit a bug report via the ATI website
feedback form...

Thanks for the backup/help Neon. Just submitted a ticket to ATI. Lemme know if you hear any update on this as I will too.

UnTouchAble · May 19, 2005, 08:03 AM

Quote:

i have the same problem on my 9800 pro, if something changes please let everybody know

Yes, I've updated mine and everything seems to run smooth! - go for it!

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Most people play at lower resoultions like 1024X768 anyways

Not me, i find it looks nicer at a higher res.

KimmiK · May 19, 2005, 10:57 AM

Kinda depends if you have a Display which supports 85 hz and above in higher resolutions.. if you ask me. I'm running 1280x1024 / 100 hz, however if I had a display with a lower hz support on that res. I would play 1024x768

wolfran · May 19, 2005, 11:10 AM

No problems here. The driver is solid and it's running smooth. Thanks ATI, another great update.

Spyre · May 19, 2005, 12:18 PM

I already said that custom resolutions work, and they do as other people have confirmed at Rage3D

BWX · May 19, 2005, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spyre

I already said that custom resolutions work, and they do as other people have confirmed at Rage3D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spyre
I'm pretty sure custom resolutions work in 5.5 drivers now

Pretty sure- I wanted to know for sure... I didn't want to go through all the hassle of installing and uninstalling without being sure. PS- I don't visit Rage.\\\\\\\\

I'll have to try I guess.

twak · May 19, 2005, 08:23 PM

has any one who has an sapphire x800 and had the 4-bit/640x480 resolution problem with the 5.4's tried these new 5.5's. would like to know before i try them out. thanks.

TrevGlas · May 19, 2005, 08:33 PM

These 5.5s run better than the omega 5.4s on my system. I get higher IQ in world of warcraft and no stutters.

magnus33 · May 19, 2005, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnTouchAble

No, in the last 5x sets (after 5.1) there was an issue with CSS and sluggish performance, now if i put 5.2, 5.3 etc on, i get horrible performance, if i go back to 5.1, 4.12 it plays smooth.

thew reason they older ones work isn't becuase they are better (more stable probly) but becuase hl2 got a bad update that messed up the games for newer stuff in the drivers.

the drivers for both nvidia and ati should work fine in it but a programer goofed the games ablty to use them.

NeoB!te · May 19, 2005, 10:09 PM

Just like to sya thank you ATI for a solid set of drivers, your X800XL card runs very smooth. Much smoother then the bad 5.4s in comparison to these beauties.

Rayder · May 19, 2005, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poppi

Can anyone tell me why Trackmania Sunrise (Full Game) keeps rebooting my computer when implementing command prompts (restart, quit, etc.) in the game, while using the 5.5s? It occurs about 10 minutes after playing. After each reboot I kept tweaking the games configuration to no avail.

Furthering, after the 5th reboot I lost my source file and all my earned medals in the races! Anyway, converting back to the 5.4s solved the problem. Clean install for both drivers.

I can safely say this is a 5.5 driver issue. Any help?

Hmm...this issue worries me. I plan to buy this game as soon as I can actually find it in a store. Don't know why it's so hard to find.

Spyre · May 20, 2005, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twak

has any one who has an sapphire x800 and had the 4-bit/640x480 resolution problem with the 5.4's tried these new 5.5's. would like to know before i try them out. thanks.

Yes thats fixed in this set

Rayder · May 20, 2005, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poppi

Can anyone tell me why Trackmania Sunrise (Full Game) keeps rebooting my computer when implementing command prompts (restart, quit, etc.) in the game, while using the 5.5s? It occurs about 10 minutes after playing. After each reboot I kept tweaking the games configuration to no avail.

Furthering, after the 5th reboot I lost my source file and all my earned medals in the races! Anyway, converting back to the 5.4s solved the problem. Clean install for both drivers.

I can safely say this is a 5.5 driver issue. Any help?

I just got Trackmania Sunrise today (pretty fun game, BTW). I played it for around an hour-and-a-half. No problems, no lockups or crashes when going into menus or exiting the game. It ran fine the whole time.....well....except for when I tried to push the options too high, but then it just got choppy. It still never crashed or locked.

Using the 5.5's of course.

Poppi · May 20, 2005, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rayder

I just got Trackmania Sunrise today (pretty fun game, BTW). I played it for around an hour-and-a-half. No problems, no lockups or crashes when going into menus or exiting the game. It ran fine the whole time.....well....except for when I tried to push the options too high, but then it just got choppy. It still never crashed or locked.

Using the 5.5's of course.

That's good to hear. Now you have a VIA chipset, versus mine is a NF2. Also our video cards are different. One of these could be why.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy

There is a problem I've just reported it to the proper people...
I would urge you to go a head and submit a bug report via the ATI website
feedback form...

Neon, what are your system specs?

EDIT: Neon, Spyre advises the 5.5s are OK with him and T Sunrise. Can you also tell me if you are using ATI Tray Tools?

Spyre · May 20, 2005, 04:04 PM

Trackmania Sunrise works for me too, with NF2 SN45G mobo

Zorg · May 20, 2005, 07:41 PM

Installed the CCC driver yesterday - smooth sailing. The CCC got a face lift - that's all about 5.5 for me.

Alex T. · May 21, 2005, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Zorg

Installed the CCC driver yesterday - smooth sailing. The CCC got a face lift - that's all about 5.5 for me.

Face lift?

What did they change exactly? Could you possibly post a screen shot?

Zorg · May 21, 2005, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex T.

Face lift?

What did they change exactly? Could you possibly post a screen shot?

Oh, dear, what have I done? - no it's not a new skin or something. CCC started up in standard view instead of my usual advanced view. This caused me impression of a face lift. Sorry for the confusion.

One thing I note is that u (now) can switch off the ATi splash screen but it does not make CCC starting any faster.

May 18, 2005, 03:46 PM	#35
Poppi DH Admirer Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 253 Rep Power: 0	Please see attached thread and ocicide's post. Same problem as I posted earlier with Trackmania Sunrise. CRASHES!!! ATI, since this is a brand new game, can you release a hot fix? http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...3815925&page=2 __________________

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BWX Spinal Tapped Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,570 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	Can someone try custom resolutions? Particularly 1200 x 900? I want to check these out- but not if custom resolutions don't work. I haven't had the CCC installed on this win-install yet ever. __________________ One Big Ass Mistake America Last edited by BWX; May 18, 2005 at 08:07 PM.

May 19, 2005, 12:18 PM	#47
Spyre DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: England Posts: 1,217 Rep Power: 48	I already said that custom resolutions work, and they do as other people have confirmed at Rage3D __________________ ATI Beta Tester game.AMD.Moderator

May 19, 2005, 08:23 PM	#49
twak DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada Posts: 115 Rep Power: 0	has any one who has an sapphire x800 and had the 4-bit/640x480 resolution problem with the 5.4's tried these new 5.5's. would like to know before i try them out. thanks. __________________ [COLOR=darkgreen] [/COLOR][COLOR=darkgreen] [/COLOR]

May 19, 2005, 10:09 PM	#52
NeoB!te DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 57 Rep Power: 0	Just like to sya thank you ATI for a solid set of drivers, your X800XL card runs very smooth. Much smoother then the bad 5.4s in comparison to these beauties. __________________ P4 3.9GHZ 1041FSB x850XT 527/600 2GB OCZ PC 3200 @ CL 2-3-2-5 74 GB Raptor, 10,000 RPM, 8 MB Cache 19" Sync Master DF

May 18, 2005, 10:22 AM	#31
kenphjr DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	I noticed that open GL benchmarks such as GLExcess and Quake3 bench seem to be way higher on my rig than with all previous drivers-GLExcess went from 11,000-14,000 range and I'm getting 318+ fps at 1280x1024 max settings in Q3 Bench-That's about the best I've seen on my machine

May 18, 2005, 02:59 PM	#33
UnTouchAble DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: S-O-T Posts: 348 Rep Power: 0	Ok, im gonna try, if it lagg,s I'm comming for you! :P

May 18, 2005, 10:14 PM	#40
Zorg DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 204 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I am truly amazed ATi fixing bugs game by game and whatever viewer - I always thought a professional driver design just works for all software. Ati drivers seem to look which application/game is loaded and accordingly reshuffle the driver? WTH…

May 18, 2005, 10:52 PM	#41
terror_adagio DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 46 Rep Power: 0	Cat 4.12: Half-Life 2 Stress - 130.40fps Doom 3 - 72.3fps Halo - 84.16fps Cat 5.5: Half-Life 2 Stress - 136.10fps Doom 3 - 73.3fps Halo - 87.87fps 3DMark05 went up around 150, 3DMark03 went down a few hundred. X800 XT PE.

May 19, 2005, 10:57 AM	#45
KimmiK DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Kinda depends if you have a Display which supports 85 hz and above in higher resolutions.. if you ask me. I'm running 1280x1024 / 100 hz, however if I had a display with a lower hz support on that res. I would play 1024x768

May 19, 2005, 11:10 AM	#46
wolfran DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 424 Rep Power: 0	No problems here. The driver is solid and it's running smooth. Thanks ATI, another great update.

May 19, 2005, 08:33 PM	#50
TrevGlas DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 67 Rep Power: 0	These 5.5s run better than the omega 5.4s on my system. I get higher IQ in world of warcraft and no stutters.

May 20, 2005, 04:04 PM	#57
Spyre DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: England Posts: 1,217 Rep Power: 48	Trackmania Sunrise works for me too, with NF2 SN45G mobo __________________ ATI Beta Tester game.AMD.Moderator

May 20, 2005, 07:41 PM	#58
Zorg DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 204 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Installed the CCC driver yesterday - smooth sailing. The CCC got a face lift - that's all about 5.5 for me.