Catalyst and Triple buffering for D3D

Soilwork · Apr 24, 2005, 05:49 AM

anyone know if this will happen for all us vsync users? Catalyst Maker, is this in the pipeline for a future release??

Fantasma · Apr 24, 2005, 05:57 AM

Some time ago, I asked the same question, the answer I had is that in D3D you can´t enable triple buffer by the drivers because the command of every game is different and you have to enable it in ingame settings, it´s one of the differences between D3D and Opengl, Opengl use the same command in games so you can enable it via drivers.

ChoGGi · Apr 24, 2005, 05:59 AM

what are you requesting?
edit: nm Fantasma answered me

Poppi · Apr 24, 2005, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fantasma

Some time ago, I asked the same question, the answer I had is that in D3D you can´t enable triple buffer by the drivers because the command of every game is different and you have to enable it in ingame settings, it´s one of the differences between D3D and Opengl, Opengl use the same command in games so you can enable it via drivers.

Now I know the game manufactures have to enable for D3D. If the above is true, and I'm only saying this because I don't have a clue on why the game manufactures have to enable, why can't ATI implement triple buffering for at least the popular games in their drivers? I mean, they can optimize for certain games (AI).

This feature would really set ATI apart from Nvidia. I have been hounding Valve for months to implement triple buffering option in the Source games. They never answer back.

Soilwork · Apr 24, 2005, 07:20 AM

It is a shame no one is takeing the lead on this cause it would make a lot of us very very happy

Spyre · Apr 24, 2005, 08:51 AM

Use Dx Tweaker that can add Tripple buffering for D3D games

Soilwork · Apr 24, 2005, 09:41 AM

sweet. thanks dude. how do I enable it now? I assume you mean Direct x tweaker??

Spyre · Apr 24, 2005, 10:24 AM

Yes
Setup a shortcut to a game that you want to have tripple buffering and tick the present changer plugin and set the back buffer count to be 3
Tick the active box and then lauch the game using the util (not the usual game icon)

Soilwork · Apr 24, 2005, 10:29 AM

thanks man! any idea where a full guide to the tweaker can be found??

ChoGGi · Apr 24, 2005, 10:36 AM

their website lists the basics
http://www.nonatainment.de/portal/De...dex=7&tabid=19
but i dont think anyone has made a guide for it yet

Spyre · Apr 24, 2005, 10:37 AM

Dont think there is one other than the download page and the readme file. They expect you to know stuff about how DX works

lewis_johnstone · Apr 24, 2005, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spyre

Yes
Setup a shortcut to a game that you want to have tripple buffering and tick the present changer plugin and set the back buffer count to be 3
Tick the active box and then lauch the game using the util (not the usual game icon)

i was told to set back buffer to '2'?

Are we supposed to set it to '3'?

griswoold · Apr 24, 2005, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewis_johnstone

i was told to set back buffer to '2'?

Are we supposed to set it to '3'?

2 is right. Not sure if it would even matter if you set it higher than 2 , might be that the driver just wouldn't care

lewis_johnstone · Apr 25, 2005, 01:07 PM

Even with this D3D 'triple buffering', now and then my fps in cs source goes too low. (30-40fps) (I some areas wit alot of action and players)

It's alot better that it was without this 'triple buffering', but not quite good enough.

I play 1280x1024,x4 AA + x8 AF @85hz [v-sync on]

I guess if my monitor could just go up to 1280x1024@100hz it would be ok

Is this 'triple buffering' tweak for d3d proper 'tripple buffering' or just an attempt at it?

Demirug · Apr 25, 2005, 01:47 PM

Yes this is real triple buffering. How high is your framerate without vsync at this place?

2 is the right value because you set the number of backbuffers. 2 backbuffers + 1 frontbuffer = 3 buffers at all = triple buffering.

Spyre · Apr 25, 2005, 02:25 PM

oops ok 2 it is then

Soilwork · Apr 25, 2005, 02:36 PM

well, I'm liking it. Half Life 2, NFSU2 and Direct Action all at 1280x1024 4xAA 16xAF silky smooth!

Soilwork · Apr 26, 2005, 12:14 PM

for anyone who plays Colin McRae Rally 2005: ENABLE TRIPLE BUFFERING AND V-SYNC!! It makes the game run SO much smoother!!

lewis_johnstone · Apr 26, 2005, 12:16 PM

Demirug.

I'd say around 45-50 fps, not too sure to be honest. (v-sync off in those massive firefights)

But, when lookin at lots of water in aztec wit v-sync on my fps was falling to 42.5fps

Using this the tweak sorted that out and raised fps to 50-60fps

However, if i look at water and turn on flashlight fps still falls to 42.5fps