huge problem raedeon 9700 pro in my laptop makes lag likes in

adrian1980 · Mar 1, 2005, 10:06 AM

Just bought a lapto with 1.7 ghz centrino with 1 GB kingston ram with raeon 9700 pro...

Everytime i try to play CS condtion zero or Unreal Tournament 2003 it makes some sort of lag BUT i dont play on line!

I callede the support hotline where i bought my laptop they sayid i shold try and instal a omega driver so i removed my ati drivers and installede the : rad_w2kxp_omega_2605a
driver but it still makes lag like things when playing games...

What driver shold i use instead im reallly annoyed with this now as my lapto is brand new only 4 days old ..

plzzz help me

thank you
sincerly
Adrian

Vikingod · Mar 1, 2005, 10:12 AM

by lag do you mean choppy framerate? If so, I would try an older version of the Omega's, with the old OpenGL driver, that might fix your CS problem. That driver is designed for older games, and the new one for well, newer games.

adrian1980 · Mar 1, 2005, 10:16 AM

yea i mean like stutters , nothing big as it only last for a few second s at time.
But condtion is a new game as well is unreal tournamnet 2003 or am i just mistaken...

where do i find a older driver ?? been looking on this site but im really confused by all this as my knowlede about drivers and etc is very small

redsolar · Mar 1, 2005, 11:41 AM

I wonder what kind of support told you to install Omega drivers

. I bet not Dell. Which laptop is it? Usually this can happen when the laptop needs to load something from the hard drive (usually pretty slow) and if it only happens when you enter a new area, this is not abnormal.

In my (and others) personal experience, Omega 4.12-baed drivers worked best, so you might want to try them out.

Vikingod · Mar 1, 2005, 03:17 PM

Those games are actually pretty old, good, but older. Here is a link to Omega's site, look under the Omega Drivers archive, and you will find all his old drivers. I would first try the 4.12's as redsolar suggests. I would also defrag your hard drive, it does sound like the comp searching for something on it, and a defrag could help. You might also want to see if there are any updates, i'm sure there are for those games, install them, and see if that fixes it.

adrian1980 · Mar 1, 2005, 04:09 PM

my laptop is only 5 days old and its a Zepto http://www.zepto.com/Default.aspx?pa...so5CUCjd7Msfo4
my Hd has Hitachi 60 GB 8MB cache 7200 Omdr and
1,7 GHz Intel Pentium M (dothan) 400 2MB cache
Kingston 1024 (2x512) MB PC3200
DVD-RW Dual Layer (+/-)
Intel® PRO/Wireless 2915ABG 54Mbit
Windows XP Home DK
15" SXGA+ TFT (1400x1050
ATI Radeon mobillity 9700PRO 128MB

The stutters happend just suddenly no matter where i go in the game...
Gonna chek out all what you have sayid and hopefully it will help

thanks

Gunny Highway · Mar 1, 2005, 11:19 PM

Most laptops can reduce speeds depending on how the power settings are set.

My Dell Inspiron runs at 1133Mhz but can change to 733Mhz if it needs to use less battery or if it runs idle. I think if you set it to Presentation in Power/Battery control panel, it will run at full speed.

Best way to control it is by using SpeedSwitchXP, it can be set to e.g. Max Performance that will result in it running at full CPU speed and never slowing down. Has other settings like Max Battery too etc.

You can get it here: http://www.diefer.de/speedswitchxp/

Tipstaff · Mar 2, 2005, 01:48 AM

One thing of note is that it might not be a display issue. I would also try tweaking your sound settings for both games, as well as turning down hardware acceleration in the control panel/sound and audio devices section. It might be that both games are pushing the sound card more than it's capable of supporting. If you look around the net you will find some good guides on tweaking both games as well. One such place is TweakGuides who have a specific guide for tweaking UT2K3, and there are others for CS:Zero, or for games based on that game engine.

- Tip

adrian1980 · Mar 2, 2005, 12:37 PM

Gunner my laptop isnt running on batteri only voltage as im always near voltage...
But gonna cek it out ....

Tipstaff ,, sounds good , i will look at it soon...

Yet again huge thank you for all the help

Gunny Highway · Mar 2, 2005, 05:18 PM

Even if it is running on non-battery power your power/battery settings might still make it use lower speeds etc.

The util mentioned before can be configured manually or it can automatically when on power use Max Performance and on battery use Max Battery. The good thing is that you can force it to use Max Performance even when on battery if needed.

adrian1980 · Mar 3, 2005, 03:37 PM

I have now done he sound thing and i have also set the laptop to presentation + i used the driver you refered to ...

adrian1980 · Mar 3, 2005, 04:26 PM

Well it seems to work fine with the new driver BUT now when i try to talk it stutters for one second , perhaps a nw driver would work ?

redsolar · Mar 3, 2005, 09:55 PM

Are you saying it stutters when you talk via the headset? If so - it's likely your CPU compressing the sound to be transmitted over the network, and that causes speed drop. UT is a pretty CPU intensive game.

adrian1980 · Mar 4, 2005, 09:28 AM

when i play cs ondtion zero and just play with bots and when i talk to my teammates to : stick toghert teams it stutter for 1 seocond ...

redsolar · Mar 4, 2005, 11:11 AM

Well, botmatch does use some serious CPU too. And when you give the bots commands, their "actions" have to be recalculated. This may be the cause.

adrian1980 · Mar 4, 2005, 06:14 PM

i just dont understand my latop should be strong enough , or ??

Son_of_Thunder · Mar 4, 2005, 08:46 PM

the 1.7ghz centrino is an amazingly fast chip, and the r9700m is a fast vid card. i'd say that your problem may be software based. how many processes do you have running in the background? i know that my laptop had abour 40 processes running in the background out of the box. i had to go through each of the extra ones and figure out which ones weren't required.

ReDGuiTaR · Mar 4, 2005, 09:04 PM

Yup .. like Son just said it might be some processes running in background ... trey msconfig and remove everything from there ... then close processes that you dont need ( winXP got a lot of unusefull process running after clean install )...

adrian1980 · Mar 25, 2005, 06:52 PM

I will chek it out , havnt figured out yet what is wrong with it.

i went in to the msconfig as you sayid and there seems to be a lt of things running in there , perhaps i should chek it out ...

Wanna say thanks for helping me out with this

Mar 1, 2005, 10:06 AM	#1
adrian1980 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	huge problem raedeon 9700 pro in my laptop makes lag likes in Just bought a lapto with 1.7 ghz centrino with 1 GB kingston ram with raeon 9700 pro... Everytime i try to play CS condtion zero or Unreal Tournament 2003 it makes some sort of lag BUT i dont play on line! I callede the support hotline where i bought my laptop they sayid i shold try and instal a omega driver so i removed my ati drivers and installede the : rad_w2kxp_omega_2605a driver but it still makes lag like things when playing games... What driver shold i use instead im reallly annoyed with this now as my lapto is brand new only 4 days old .. plzzz help me thank you sincerly Adrian

Mar 1, 2005, 10:12 AM	#2
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,149 Rep Power: 85 System Specs	by lag do you mean choppy framerate? If so, I would try an older version of the Omega's, with the old OpenGL driver, that might fix your CS problem. That driver is designed for older games, and the new one for well, newer games. __________________ *How You Can Help DriverHeaven By Using Digg*

Mar 1, 2005, 11:41 AM	#4
redsolar Off duty Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Iowa, USA Posts: 1,252 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I wonder what kind of support told you to install Omega drivers . I bet not Dell. Which laptop is it? Usually this can happen when the laptop needs to load something from the hard drive (usually pretty slow) and if it only happens when you enter a new area, this is not abnormal. In my (and others) personal experience, Omega 4.12-baed drivers worked best, so you might want to try them out. __________________ Real_Men_Do_Not_Use_Space_Bar Main rig: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3.6 GHz (Zerotherm Nirvana NV120) \| 2x2GB Mushkin + 2x2GB Corsair DDR2-800 5-5-5-18 \| Abit IP35 Pro \| XFX 8800GTS 512 800/1100 \| 2x160GB Seagate 7200.9 RAID1 + Hitachi 1TB 32MB \| NEC SATA DVD+RW + Xbox 360 USB HD DVD Drive \| Antec TruePower Quattro 850W PSU \| Antec Nine Hundred Case \| 3x 24" LCD (Dell 2407WFP + 2x StarLogic) \| Logitech Z-5500 \| Vista Business x64 Laptop: Dell Vostro 1500 \| Core 2 Duo T7500 \| 2.5 GB RAM \| nVidia GeForce 8600M GT \| 200GB 7200 RPM \| DVDRW \| 15.4" 1680x1050 LCD \| XP Pro

Mar 1, 2005, 03:17 PM	#5
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,149 Rep Power: 85 System Specs	Those games are actually pretty old, good, but older. Here is a link to Omega's site, look under the Omega Drivers archive, and you will find all his old drivers. I would first try the 4.12's as redsolar suggests. I would also defrag your hard drive, it does sound like the comp searching for something on it, and a defrag could help. You might also want to see if there are any updates, i'm sure there are for those games, install them, and see if that fixes it. __________________ *How You Can Help DriverHeaven By Using Digg*

Mar 1, 2005, 11:19 PM	#7
Gunny Highway DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Denmark Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Most laptops can reduce speeds depending on how the power settings are set. My Dell Inspiron runs at 1133Mhz but can change to 733Mhz if it needs to use less battery or if it runs idle. I think if you set it to Presentation in Power/Battery control panel, it will run at full speed. Best way to control it is by using SpeedSwitchXP, it can be set to e.g. Max Performance that will result in it running at full CPU speed and never slowing down. Has other settings like Max Battery too etc. You can get it here: http://www.diefer.de/speedswitchxp/ Last edited by Gunny Highway; Mar 1, 2005 at 11:21 PM. Reason: spelling

Mar 1, 2005, 10:16 AM	#3
adrian1980 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	yea i mean like stutters , nothing big as it only last for a few second s at time. But condtion is a new game as well is unreal tournamnet 2003 or am i just mistaken... where do i find a older driver ?? been looking on this site but im really confused by all this as my knowlede about drivers and etc is very small

Mar 1, 2005, 04:09 PM	#6
adrian1980 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	my laptop is only 5 days old and its a Zepto http://www.zepto.com/Default.aspx?pa...so5CUCjd7Msfo4 my Hd has Hitachi 60 GB 8MB cache 7200 Omdr and 1,7 GHz Intel Pentium M (dothan) 400 2MB cache Kingston 1024 (2x512) MB PC3200 DVD-RW Dual Layer (+/-) Intel® PRO/Wireless 2915ABG 54Mbit Windows XP Home DK 15" SXGA+ TFT (1400x1050 ATI Radeon mobillity 9700PRO 128MB The stutters happend just suddenly no matter where i go in the game... Gonna chek out all what you have sayid and hopefully it will help thanks

Mar 2, 2005, 01:48 AM	#8
Tipstaff DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Real capital of Canada: Toronto Posts: 5,515 Rep Power: 93 System Specs	One thing of note is that it might not be a display issue. I would also try tweaking your sound settings for both games, as well as turning down hardware acceleration in the control panel/sound and audio devices section. It might be that both games are pushing the sound card more than it's capable of supporting. If you look around the net you will find some good guides on tweaking both games as well. One such place is TweakGuides who have a specific guide for tweaking UT2K3, and there are others for CS:Zero, or for games based on that game engine. - Tip __________________ >><<

Mar 2, 2005, 12:37 PM	#9
adrian1980 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	Gunner my laptop isnt running on batteri only voltage as im always near voltage... But gonna cek it out .... Tipstaff ,, sounds good , i will look at it soon... Yet again huge thank you for all the help

Mar 2, 2005, 05:18 PM	#10
Gunny Highway DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Denmark Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Even if it is running on non-battery power your power/battery settings might still make it use lower speeds etc. The util mentioned before can be configured manually or it can automatically when on power use Max Performance and on battery use Max Battery. The good thing is that you can force it to use Max Performance even when on battery if needed.

Mar 3, 2005, 03:37 PM	#11
adrian1980 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	I have now done he sound thing and i have also set the laptop to presentation + i used the driver you refered to ...

Mar 3, 2005, 04:26 PM	#12
adrian1980 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	Well it seems to work fine with the new driver BUT now when i try to talk it stutters for one second , perhaps a nw driver would work ?

Mar 3, 2005, 09:55 PM	#13
redsolar Off duty Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Iowa, USA Posts: 1,252 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Are you saying it stutters when you talk via the headset? If so - it's likely your CPU compressing the sound to be transmitted over the network, and that causes speed drop. UT is a pretty CPU intensive game. __________________ Real_Men_Do_Not_Use_Space_Bar Main rig: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3.6 GHz (Zerotherm Nirvana NV120) \| 2x2GB Mushkin + 2x2GB Corsair DDR2-800 5-5-5-18 \| Abit IP35 Pro \| XFX 8800GTS 512 800/1100 \| 2x160GB Seagate 7200.9 RAID1 + Hitachi 1TB 32MB \| NEC SATA DVD+RW + Xbox 360 USB HD DVD Drive \| Antec TruePower Quattro 850W PSU \| Antec Nine Hundred Case \| 3x 24" LCD (Dell 2407WFP + 2x StarLogic) \| Logitech Z-5500 \| Vista Business x64 Laptop: Dell Vostro 1500 \| Core 2 Duo T7500 \| 2.5 GB RAM \| nVidia GeForce 8600M GT \| 200GB 7200 RPM \| DVDRW \| 15.4" 1680x1050 LCD \| XP Pro

Mar 4, 2005, 09:28 AM	#14
adrian1980 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	when i play cs ondtion zero and just play with bots and when i talk to my teammates to : stick toghert teams it stutter for 1 seocond ...

Mar 4, 2005, 11:11 AM	#15
redsolar Off duty Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Iowa, USA Posts: 1,252 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Well, botmatch does use some serious CPU too. And when you give the bots commands, their "actions" have to be recalculated. This may be the cause. __________________ Real_Men_Do_Not_Use_Space_Bar Main rig: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3.6 GHz (Zerotherm Nirvana NV120) \| 2x2GB Mushkin + 2x2GB Corsair DDR2-800 5-5-5-18 \| Abit IP35 Pro \| XFX 8800GTS 512 800/1100 \| 2x160GB Seagate 7200.9 RAID1 + Hitachi 1TB 32MB \| NEC SATA DVD+RW + Xbox 360 USB HD DVD Drive \| Antec TruePower Quattro 850W PSU \| Antec Nine Hundred Case \| 3x 24" LCD (Dell 2407WFP + 2x StarLogic) \| Logitech Z-5500 \| Vista Business x64 Laptop: Dell Vostro 1500 \| Core 2 Duo T7500 \| 2.5 GB RAM \| nVidia GeForce 8600M GT \| 200GB 7200 RPM \| DVDRW \| 15.4" 1680x1050 LCD \| XP Pro

Mar 4, 2005, 06:14 PM	#16
adrian1980 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	i just dont understand my latop should be strong enough , or ??

Mar 4, 2005, 08:46 PM	#17
Son_of_Thunder DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 1,434 Rep Power: 37 System Specs	the 1.7ghz centrino is an amazingly fast chip, and the r9700m is a fast vid card. i'd say that your problem may be software based. how many processes do you have running in the background? i know that my laptop had abour 40 processes running in the background out of the box. i had to go through each of the extra ones and figure out which ones weren't required. __________________

Mar 4, 2005, 09:04 PM	#18
ReDGuiTaR DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Quebec , Canada Posts: 746 Rep Power: 0	Yup .. like Son just said it might be some processes running in background ... trey msconfig and remove everything from there ... then close processes that you dont need ( winXP got a lot of unusefull process running after clean install )... __________________ Zing a ling... zing a ling a ling ... A8N-E - A64x2 4600, 2048 Mb Kingston ram 400mhz cas 2.5 ( 2 x 1024 DualChannel ), Seagate 320 Gig 7200 16Mb cache S-ata 2, GeForce 7900GT 512MB, Enermax 460watt power supply, WindowsXP SP2.

Mar 25, 2005, 06:52 PM	#19
adrian1980 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	I will chek it out , havnt figured out yet what is wrong with it. i went in to the msconfig as you sayid and there seems to be a lt of things running in there , perhaps i should chek it out ... Wanna say thanks for helping me out with this