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Old Sep 8, 2005, 12:09 AM   #31
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not sure..


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Motherboard Name Dell Dimension XPS


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Motherboard Chipset Intel Alderwood i925X


model number: WHL (I dont know what that means but is that it?) says this on my case

if not tell me and ill contact dell or ask someone
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Old Sep 9, 2005, 01:11 AM   #32
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Old Sep 9, 2005, 03:25 PM   #33
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sorry about that, i was away.
you can find with everest. start it and goto motherboard>motherboard, it should show you the name of your mb there.
http://www.lavalys.hu/products/downl...?pid=1&lang=en
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Old Sep 9, 2005, 07:22 PM   #34
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all it says under motherboard



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Motherboard Properties
Motherboard ID <DMI>
Motherboard Name Dell Dimension XPS

Front Side Bus Properties
Bus Type Intel NetBurst
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 200 MHz (QDR)
Effective Clock 800 MHz
Bandwidth 6400 MB/s

Memory Bus Properties
Bus Type Dual DDR2 SDRAM
Bus Width 128-bit
Real Clock 267 MHz (DDR)
Effective Clock 533 MHz
Bandwidth 8533 MB/s

Chipset Bus Properties
Bus Type Intel Direct Media Interface

Motherboard Manufacturer
Company Name Dell Computer Corporation
Product Information http://www.dell.com
BIOS Download http://support.dell.com
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Old Sep 9, 2005, 08:55 PM   #35
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whoops
looks like you already told me
so back to
"All I saw was 3 metal sticks (don’t know what they are called, but they stick out)
Then another one that’s the same thing but with 4 instead of 3
Can that big connector connect to the one with 4 pins or not? In that pic you should me of the fan.
The fans I have on now they have 5 pins and the connector is very small"

the little sticks are called prongs
the ones with 4 have an extra wire for speed adjustment (i think)

if the fans are 3 pronged then dont plug it into that extra one past the plastic barrier

the big connector from the fan picture is a female molex, the males are plugged into your hard drives/cd roms. unplug one and size it up to the 4 pin ones.
could you post a link to the fans your getting?
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Old Sep 10, 2005, 02:20 AM   #36
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basic fan


I am getting 2 of them http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835150007


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Old Sep 10, 2005, 02:22 AM   #37
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Also getting this... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16835106043 which I have no real idea if it will work on my computer or not. Only reason I am buying it is the one I have right now is about 4 times larger then this one... so its just there to save space and maybe if I feel like oc but 3.4 is already very strong so don’t see a point to oc right now


Buying a new cooler for my x800xt so this is the only way to fit it in
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Old Sep 10, 2005, 02:33 AM   #38
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that masscool has molex and 3 pin connectors so it'll work.
going by here
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article201-page1.html
the cpu cooler has a 3 pin connection
and works on
Intel P4 Socket T
Intel P4 478 up to 3.2GHz
AMD A64 / A64 FX
AMD Athlon XP up to 3400+
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Old Sep 10, 2005, 01:18 PM   #39
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yea so i guess it works.. like i said i have no idea, but if it doesnt newegg has always been easy on returns
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Old Sep 10, 2005, 01:42 PM   #40
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also


Would you recommend any good coolers for my 3.4 intel cpu? possibly from newegg

something that blows air out and easy to install is mostly what i am looking for
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Old Sep 10, 2005, 11:31 PM   #41
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Edit





something besides what I thought i was going to buy.. read the whole review and it just doesnt seem worth it





if you know of any decent/easy to install ones?
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Old Sep 11, 2005, 12:05 AM   #42
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no idea
i use water cooling and havent had an intel cpu for ages.
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Old Sep 11, 2005, 04:03 AM   #43
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Edit


I been looking around more and well im new to this...

what is my "Socket"

i know i have intel but i see all kinds \ 478 775 etc


How do i know what i have?


I have a dell xps 3 intel 3.4 how can i find out?


by the way thanks for your help
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Old Sep 11, 2005, 04:24 AM   #44
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everest should tell you (under motherboard>cpu), if not then try cpu-z or WCPUID.
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Old Sep 11, 2005, 04:33 PM   #45
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all i see




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CPU Properties
CPU Type Intel Pentium 4 550, 3400 MHz (17 x 200)
CPU Alias Prescott
CPU Stepping D0
Instruction Set x86, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3
Original Clock 3400 MHz
Min / Max CPU Multiplier 14x / 17x
Engineering Sample No
L1 Trace Cache 12K Instructions
L1 Data Cache 16 KB
L2 Cache 1 MB (On-Die, ECC, ATC, Full-Speed)

Multi CPU
Motherboard ID DELL Dim XPSGEN3
CPU #0 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz, 3391 MHz
CPU #1 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz, 3391 MHz

CPU Physical Info
Package Type 775 Contact LGA
Package Size 3.75 cm x 3.75 cm
Transistors 125 million
Process Technology 7M, 90 nm, CMOS, Cu, Low-K Inter-Layer, High-K Gate, Strained Si
Die Size 112 mm2
Core Voltage 1.425 V
I/O Voltage 1.425 V
Typical Power 84 - 115 W (depending on clock speed)
Maximum Power 101 - 151 W (depending on clock speed)

CPU Manufacturer
Company Name Intel Corporation
Product Information http://www.intel.com/products/browse/processor.htm

CPU Utilization
CPU #1 / HTT Unit #1 0 %
CPU #1 / HTT Unit #2 2 %
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Old Sep 11, 2005, 04:42 PM   #46
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its a Pentium 4 550 (3.4 GHz LGA775)
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Old Sep 13, 2005, 06:56 PM   #47
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well i got it today and tryed to install it... but the "H metal back plate doesnt fit the holes on my mother board so no way to install it..


i dont understand it i says it works with lga775
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Old Sep 13, 2005, 08:00 PM   #48
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this is really starting to piss me off... I looked at the specs for it.. says something like 467... while i need sometihng in the 700

I did not know any of this... i am almost at the point of buying a 200 water cooled system

just need a cpu cooler that blows air out and works... how f in hard is that?? well im returing what i have now....but have no idea at all on what to buy.. AAH!!
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Old Sep 14, 2005, 05:58 PM   #49
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how about a zalman cooler
http://www.zalmanusa.com
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Old Jul 18, 2006, 12:36 AM   #50
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Dear Choggi:

Referring to Common Problems and Fixes #19: I got the same error messages in installing Ati Radeon Xpress 200M. Pasted here

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19. installing catalyst on windows x64 gives you this error mesage (and smartgart isnt running after reboot)
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(titlebar) thunk.exe
INF file is missing




i used filemon to monitor the install and found thunk.exe was trying to run system32\ati2saag.exe, so i extracted data1.cab in the driver folder (using i6comp x data1.cab).
then copied ati2saag.exe to the system32 folder and problem fixed.
copying the one in syswow64 to system32 also seems to work.

================================================== ====

Question:
How to get i6comp to uncompress the .cab file?
And do you mind sending me the ati2saag.exe file (in case too dificult to get "i6comp")?

my email: altec(underscore)1@yahoo.com

thanks,
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Old Jul 18, 2006, 01:01 AM   #51
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first check if ati2saag.exe is in your syswow64 folder if it is try copying that one to your system32 folder
also if that doesnt work, which version of the drivers are you trying to install?
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Old Jul 18, 2006, 02:13 AM   #52
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Dear Choggi:

Everything fine, thanks for your step #19 inspiring me.

I put in a new thread for complete step-by-step ala newbie like me:

Solution for Ati Radeon Xpress 200M getting "Thunk.exe missing inf file"


thanks
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Old Oct 16, 2006, 10:22 PM   #53
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I have read the post for problems with driver installs above. My problem lies with Quote #5 "Try to steup display adapter with a standard VGA driver before running setup"

So I did what you suggested and no help. I even went to #18 and removed the oem.inf and oem.pnf files.

Maybe I missed a step?

1. Went to device manager to remove display adapters-none list to remove
2. Start in safe mode
3. Ran driver cleaner and removed ATI as well as NVIDA(card I had before the last ATI)
4. Moved the oem.inf and oem.pnf files to the temp folder
5. Reboot, downloaded and ran the ATI software(6.9) for XP directly from the site and not the older disk(6.4) that came with the new card(Radeon X1600XT)

Still get the same error message when I try to install. Did I miss a step? Please, your help is needed as I have been fighting with this for over a week now.

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Old Oct 17, 2006, 04:03 AM   #54
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boot into safe mode, then in device manager goto view>show hidden devices.
then a video card should show up, remove it. now you can run driver cleaner and remove the oem files.
then reboot, dont install the ati drivers yet first windows should popup a dialog trying to install a standard display adapter. after that happens then reboot and install the ati drivers.

if windows doesnt try to install a standard display adapter then goto device manager and it should show a video card under unknown devices (it might be under display adapters). goto the properties>details>copy your device instance id and post it here
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Started in safe mode

Opened device manager>view>hidden devices and no display adapters or unknown devices listed at all so nothing to remove.

Ran Driver Cleaner
No OEM files found to remove
Reboot
Installed ATI drivers and same message again.

Then went back to device manager to look again for dispaly or unknown devices but nothing.

When I clicked to see hidden files I also clicked to see devices by connection. All I found was vgasave. I viewed properties>details and got root\legacy\_vgasave\0000 don't know if that helps.

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before you install the ati drivers you need to install the standard display adapter driver
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Old Oct 17, 2006, 04:40 PM   #57
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Can you tell me were to find the standard display adapter and how to install it. I assumed that a standard vga adapter was being used considering none were found in the device manager. Sorry for these basic questions but I'm just not that familiar with this type of procedure.
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goto device manager your video card should be under unknown devices, goto update driver then choose from a list>dont search i will choose a driver> i forget what its called exactly something like standard display adapter or standard vga device. after its done reboot and install the ati drivers
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No video card at all in the device manager and no unknown devices. Thats what is so crazy for me. If i knew how to take a snap shot of my screen while in the device manager I would post it for you to see.
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Old Oct 17, 2006, 05:14 PM   #60
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thats pretty strange a reboot should make the card show up, you could try taking out the card boot into windows, shutdown then stick the card back in. press ctrl+alt+del s s enter to shutdown (unless you have it setup to show the task manager).
easy way to grab a screenshot press print screen on your kb open paint and paste (dont save it as a bmp)
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