new and clueless about radeon, please help!

eliura1 · Feb 13, 2005, 11:04 AM

I recently bought a radeon 9200se and before you joke about this, please remember the title.
With full hardware accelleration on, I can if I'm lucky manage to go about 40 minutes before
my screen goes black, my screen freezes or and this I find really confusing everything on the
screen freezes but my mouse pointer doesn't.
If anyone has a clue as to what is going on I would love the help.

swimtech · Feb 13, 2005, 11:24 AM

Welcome to DH eliura1,

It will help if we can have more information about the circumstances of your problem.

So you're running Windows ok for about 40 minutes, or does this happen while you're in a game, or another application? Does it happen only while you are running one particular program, or just after a certain amount of time (as you mentioned) - regardless of what program you are running?

Also, what other components do you have in your system - including your operating system and version (98, XP SP1, XP SP2, etc.). Also, do you hear your fans spinning in your case and/or feel air coming out the back.

The more of this information you can provide, the better -as much as you can be certain of. We'll help as best we can...

pir8nyc · Feb 13, 2005, 12:45 PM

if you have a via motherboard (ie, not intel) you need to set the AGP speed in the smartgart options for the videoadapter to 4X (or less),

sorry but the 8X was done prior to standardizing, and this is the only workaround at the moment.

eliura1 · Feb 13, 2005, 12:45 PM

I have windows 98se
a 50x cd drive, a ricoh mp7080a cd burner drive, a 40 gig harddrive,
a 80 gig harddrive (both are 7200 speed) , a tv tuner card , a netcomm modem,
382 mb of ram, radeon 9200se pci video card, intergated graghics card on the
board (says currently disabled in system properties), my motherboard is a aopen
mx36le-u, two fans in the case, one extra was installed when the guy at the shop
fixed my harddrive problem (it was about to die of old age and overuse, got replaced
by 40gig one).
I have the drivers from the radeon disk installed have looked on the ati site and as
far as I can tell they are the newest version, I have tried 4.3 as well and 2 omega
versions only difference between them is I can get the help screen up with the
omega ones where as the ati ones tell me there isn't enough memory and to close
a program to free up some.
it freezes and stuff when I play sims2 , when I go on the internet , when I play a video
file and if I have the computer on long enough.
However when I turn off the hardware acceleration it doesn't freeze and stuff works
almost like before.

eliura1 · Feb 13, 2005, 04:31 PM

Why do I get these problems?
Is there something wrong with the drivers?
or is it the card it's self?
anyone got an idea?

I can't play my games.

cswiger · Feb 13, 2005, 04:55 PM

Well, you're using a micro-ATX motherboard without an AGP slot, so I guess you must have a PCI version of the Radeon card? Most systems assembled from hardware like that have a tiny power supply, and you are loading this system up pretty good, so you might want to check the voltages via MBM or some other utility.

You should make sure windows is up to date, do a virus scan, disk check, and a defrag just to clean up, and then install either Catalyst 4.12 or the 5.2, and then see how that does.

redsolar · Feb 14, 2005, 10:42 AM

Sounds more like Windows 98-related issue. It's not the most stable OS out there, and when coupled with some hardware it totally loses stability. When's the last time you reinstalled?

eliura1 · Feb 14, 2005, 12:39 PM

as stated above it is indeed a pci card.

To update I am taking it into the shop tomorrow, the guy said that the card is most
probably a dud and that he would send it back and get another one for me.

by the way the win98/me drivers only go up to 4.11
windows was freshly installed on the day I had to take the tower in to due to the hard
disk problem briefly mentioned above and that was 10 days ago.

Feb 13, 2005, 11:04 AM	#1
eliura1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	new and clueless about radeon, please help! I recently bought a radeon 9200se and before you joke about this, please remember the title. With full hardware accelleration on, I can if I'm lucky manage to go about 40 minutes before my screen goes black, my screen freezes or and this I find really confusing everything on the screen freezes but my mouse pointer doesn't. If anyone has a clue as to what is going on I would love the help.

Feb 13, 2005, 11:24 AM	#2
swimtech At Your Service... Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,989 Rep Power: 100 System Specs	Welcome to DH eliura1, It will help if we can have more information about the circumstances of your problem. So you're running Windows ok for about 40 minutes, or does this happen while you're in a game, or another application? Does it happen only while you are running one particular program, or just after a certain amount of time (as you mentioned) - regardless of what program you are running? Also, what other components do you have in your system - including your operating system and version (98, XP SP1, XP SP2, etc.). Also, do you hear your fans spinning in your case and/or feel air coming out the back. The more of this information you can provide, the better -as much as you can be certain of. We'll help as best we can... __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

Feb 13, 2005, 04:31 PM	#5
eliura1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	clueless Why do I get these problems? Is there something wrong with the drivers? or is it the card it's self? anyone got an idea? I can't play my games.

Feb 13, 2005, 04:55 PM	#6
cswiger DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 252 Rep Power: 0	Well, you're using a micro-ATX motherboard without an AGP slot, so I guess you must have a PCI version of the Radeon card? Most systems assembled from hardware like that have a tiny power supply, and you are loading this system up pretty good, so you might want to check the voltages via MBM or some other utility. You should make sure windows is up to date, do a virus scan, disk check, and a defrag just to clean up, and then install either Catalyst 4.12 or the 5.2, and then see how that does. __________________ Do you remember Shalebridge Cradle? Beware! The Cradle doesn't forget.... AMD Opteron 185 @ 2.6GHz/200HTT \| 2GB G.Skill DDR3200 @ 2-3-2-5/1T \| 512MB eVGA 8800GT @ 600/1800 \| SB Audigy 2ZS eX, Outlaw 1050 6.1ch amp, Paradigm speakers \| MSI K8N Diamond Plus mainboard \| black Lian-Li USB68 case + Foxconn FX600-GLN 600W PSU \| 2xWDC3200AAKS (RAID1) \| Sony GDM-F500R CRT, BENQ G2400W LCD

Feb 14, 2005, 10:42 AM	#7
redsolar Off duty Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Iowa, USA Posts: 1,252 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Sounds more like Windows 98-related issue. It's not the most stable OS out there, and when coupled with some hardware it totally loses stability. When's the last time you reinstalled? __________________ Real_Men_Do_Not_Use_Space_Bar Main rig: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3.6 GHz (Zerotherm Nirvana NV120) \| 2x2GB Mushkin + 2x2GB Corsair DDR2-800 5-5-5-18 \| Abit IP35 Pro \| XFX 8800GTS 512 800/1100 \| 2x160GB Seagate 7200.9 RAID1 + Hitachi 1TB 32MB \| NEC SATA DVD+RW + Xbox 360 USB HD DVD Drive \| Antec TruePower Quattro 850W PSU \| Antec Nine Hundred Case \| 3x 24" LCD (Dell 2407WFP + 2x StarLogic) \| Logitech Z-5500 \| Vista Business x64 Laptop: Dell Vostro 1500 \| Core 2 Duo T7500 \| 2.5 GB RAM \| nVidia GeForce 8600M GT \| 200GB 7200 RPM \| DVDRW \| 15.4" 1680x1050 LCD \| XP Pro

Feb 13, 2005, 12:45 PM	#3
pir8nyc DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 46 Rep Power: 0	if you have a via motherboard (ie, not intel) you need to set the AGP speed in the smartgart options for the videoadapter to 4X (or less), sorry but the 8X was done prior to standardizing, and this is the only workaround at the moment.

Feb 14, 2005, 12:39 PM	#8
eliura1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	as stated above it is indeed a pci card. To update I am taking it into the shop tomorrow, the guy said that the card is most probably a dud and that he would send it back and get another one for me. by the way the win98/me drivers only go up to 4.11 windows was freshly installed on the day I had to take the tower in to due to the hard disk problem briefly mentioned above and that was 10 days ago.