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Old Feb 9, 2005, 07:45 PM   1 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #1
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RAGE 6 SDR 32mb Video Card and Driver?

I have a ATI RADEON PCI video card and on the back is a white sticker showing the name Rage 6 SDR 32mb. The Part number on the sticker is 1027570401 and when I use that number at ATI website it comes up as a [color=#333333]RADEON 32MB SDR PCI VGA TVOUT NTSC with a BIOS part number [color=#333333]11375702101. Doing a little more research on ATI site I found that "Rage 6" was the internal code name used for RADEON while it was in development. The video card has the name RADEON on both front and back of it also.[/color][/color]
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[color=#333333][color=#333333]I installed the video card in a HP Pavilion 4550z computer and I downloaded the Win98 Graphic Driver for the RADEON Family which is the [color=#000000]CATALYST 4.10 for RADEON 7000 through RADEON 9800 Series. When I went to install the driver it said my system wasn't supported and it wouldn't install. I then went into Windows Display Settings and selected to update the Standard PCI Adapter driver and selected to view a manufacturer's list and selected one of the two ATI lists and with the many many many video card names to select from there was not one for the RADEON 32mb SDR PCI and I seen about 5 with the name RADEON 7000 and I selected one. I then got a popup screen saying "this driver wasn't writen for your video card, do you still want to proceed" and I selected yes. The driver installed and it worked but it did not add the ATI Utility Tabs in the Display Properties Settings Advanced screen or any ATI icon on my desktop taskbar.[/color][/color][/color]
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[color=#333333][color=#333333][color=#000000]I must say I have used ATI video cards in the past and they were a headache back then and still seem to be now. Just trying to find out exactly which video card you have and which driver to use with it is a task. I would like to know exactly which driver should I be using with this video card since this is a pre-7000 model I assume?[/color][/color][/color]

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Old Feb 9, 2005, 08:11 PM   #2
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That thing sounds pretty ancient man. maybe the reason youre getting headaches just like old times is because you are using hardware from old times.

Bite the bullet and get a newer card dude you wont be disappointed.
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Old Feb 9, 2005, 08:14 PM   #3
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The windows display utility will not install any ATI software other than the drivers themselves. You might try an earlier version of the Catalyst drivers.
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Old Feb 9, 2005, 08:30 PM   #4
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The windows display utility will not install any ATI software other than the drivers themselves. You might try an earlier version of the Catalyst drivers.

[color=#0000ff]coldfrontt[/color] , can you suggest which version to try?
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Old Feb 9, 2005, 08:34 PM   #5
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That thing sounds pretty ancient man. maybe the reason youre getting headaches just like old times is because you are using hardware from old times.

Bite the bullet and get a newer card dude you wont be disappointed.
Wow....that was an intelligent reply. Placing an "ancient" video card on an "ancient" computer shouldn't be a problem as long as there is an "ancient" driver still around. You place "ancient" hardware on "ancient" computers for new hardware isn't supported on "ancient" computers.

My Nvidia FX 5700 Ultra works just fine on my 3200+, 1gb Dual Channel, Raid0 320gb computer......is that new enough for you?
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Old Feb 9, 2005, 08:40 PM   #6
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My Nvidia FX 5700 Ultra works just fine on my 3200+, 1gb Dual Channel, Raid0 320gb computer......is that new enough for you?
Actually no. But you said yourself you have a PCI slot, get a 9200 for 60 bucks or a geforce two or something. jeez ill send you one for free with a big fat k7 cooler on it for all your "ancient" overclocking needs hehe. Ijust got done putting a radeon 9000pro in a pentium 2 266mhz so dont say you cant upgrade lol
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Old Feb 9, 2005, 08:48 PM   #7
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look dude i was just stating the obvious, All petty bickering aside, try these they are the catalyst 2.1's the first official cats if they dont work its not a "radeon" .


http://mirror.ati.com/support/driver...613106094.html


also have you tried the rage 128 series drivers?
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Old Feb 9, 2005, 09:05 PM   #8
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Thanks for the link. I forgot to mention that I'm running Win98se on the HP 4550 Pavilion so if can find that same version driver for Win98se I think I would be fine. It's definately a RADEON card as per my initial post. Should I try Rage 128 driver? http://mirror.ati.com/support/infobase/3672.html


Newer video cards require at least a 250w computer power supply and I think this HP computer only has a 70-90w power supply for it uses a micro motherboard. The motherboard is the Asus MEB-VM Rev. 1.01 and has an onboard AGPx2 4mb video. Before buying the PCI card I went to HP website and got the specs of the computer and it showed it NOT having a AGP slot and when I went to install the PCI card lord and behold there was an empty AGP ver. 1.1 slot.

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Old Feb 9, 2005, 09:24 PM   #9
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If you look at the card does it have a manufacture date on it? another thing could be that its OEM so you might have to get the driver from HP. or try installing win2k it may be able to auto detect, I hated win 98 for that.
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Thanks for the link. I forgot to mention that I'm running Win98se on the HP 4550 Pavilion so if can find that same version driver for Win98se I think I would be fine. It's definately a RADEON card as per my initial post. Should I try Rage 128 driver? http://mirror.ati.com/support/infobase/3672.html


Newer video cards require at least a 250w computer power supply and I think this HP computer only has a 70-90w power supply for it uses a micro motherboard. The motherboard is the Asus MEB-VM Rev. 1.01 and has an onboard AGPx2 4mb video. Before buying the PCI card I went to HP website and got the specs of the computer and it showed it NOT having a AGP slot and when I went to install the PCI card lord and behold there was an emty AGP ver. 1.1 slot.
Try this site here...all older cats for 98.
http://mirror.ati.com/support/produc...usdrivers.html

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Im pretty confident this is it if thats a radeon 32mb sdr http://mirror.ati.com/support/driver...me4123056.html

Also your mobo has the intel bx440 chipset. the same chipset i put that 9000 pro on hehe. they overclock suprisingly well for older hardware. the card that was originally in the one i tweaked was a ATI rage 128 pro 2x agp
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save you self trouble first delete the C:\ati\
its just and early radeon
http://www2.ati.com/drivers/wme-8-03...7a-021000e.exe
02/09/05 98/me should work fine... try to install it



if all else fails after its extraced when you try to install it will be placed in a
C:\ati\support\**driver version**\drivers\*another folder i forget the name* inf
point it there when you try to update useing the device manager or as you did "Windows Display Settings and selected to update the Standard PCI Adapter driver "

But after that manually you need to install the control panel it will be located in a folder like
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When all else fails, you can go to windowsupdate.com and search for a hardware device driver.
There is got to be one for your card up there, maybe an old one, but it will definitely work.

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OK......I tried using the Windows 98/ME Display Driver build 4.12.3056 driver and selected RADEON SDR within adapter tab update screen and it said that it might not work and if I wanted to install it anyway so I did. After bootup I got a black blank windows desktop screen so I went into Safemode and changed it's refresh rate from "unknown" to default and rebooted and got a windows display screen this time but was not able to adjust over 256k colors at 640x480 and it didn't add any ATI tabs to my display properties screen so I uninstalled this driver. The Display Settings Adapter tab did show a RADEON SDR as the name of the video card. Oh well.


I clicked on the file The_Neon_Cowboy provided and it went through the whole install process and installed everything including Display Settings ATI tabs and taskbar ATI icon. On the Display Settings Adapter tab screen it now shows the video card as being a RADEON 7200. The video card has a S-Video TV out connection on it so is it posible that it is a 7200 card? Oh well, thanks a lot Cowboy!

....and thanks to all others who replied as well!

THE END........OR IS IT?
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That's good for you. It is the latest driver, too.
Here is the release note:
http://www2.ati.com/drivers/Catalyst...tes_WinME.html
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