Rate Catalyst 5.1 (Driver only)

***Zardon*** · Jan 17, 2005, 04:14 PM

You know the drill from 10 (best) to 1 (worst).

nuG · Jan 17, 2005, 06:07 PM

no performance increases?!?!?? damn oh well they seem to be stable enough. i give them an hm......... lets see........ 7

*Raff_3DC* · Jan 17, 2005, 06:18 PM

I think 9 points are fair.
ATi did a very good job with getting the Catalyst-drivers that stable & compatible they are. Well ... there are only very few increases in speed--but compatiblity raised by a small amount.

BTW: Don't mind. 10 points means "perfect" to me -- and that's impossible.

MfG,
Raff

Clubber · Jan 17, 2005, 06:28 PM

With the 4.12's I score 101.23 in the source stress test. With the 5.1's I score a 85.01

brandon105 · Jan 17, 2005, 06:55 PM

Enable AI and check your CCC settings.

Clubber · Jan 17, 2005, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandon105

Enable AI and check your CCC settings.

I did and its the same. Went back to 4.12's and fixed it.

JokerRJA · Jan 17, 2005, 10:22 PM

In Rome: Total War it's even slower than it was than 4.12.

tornadog · Jan 17, 2005, 11:24 PM

not a good start to New year, all scores are down and no real fixes its back to 4.12 for me, till ....

theonlybabyface · Jan 18, 2005, 12:12 AM

4.12's work fine so no need to update unless I read words like "fast", "awesome", etc.

Robert McClelland · Jan 18, 2005, 11:55 AM

I gain 4 fps on my graphics card

GeneralClaymore · Jan 18, 2005, 12:38 PM

there working just as good as 4.12 for me. and i gain some perfomance here and there and i notice a graphics boost a bit. i keeping these 5.1

FiatluX · Jan 18, 2005, 12:42 PM

Gave ´em a 10 coz when I changed to watercooling on my 9700pro the 4.12s and 4.11s ceased to work and I had to go back to the 4.10s

No pic at all after bootscreen and these just booted into desktop perfectly !

Chaos · Jan 18, 2005, 12:44 PM

I give the drivers a 9 as they are very stable on my setup

danholo · Jan 18, 2005, 12:53 PM

Utter crap. Even after using the ModTools for my Mobility Radeon 9200 it complains that the new drivers are not compatible with my card.

Ripsaw · Jan 18, 2005, 01:19 PM

Gave it a 5. Too ho hum. No optimizations or performance increases, and most importantly, the memory allocation situtation with 256mb cards is still not optimal.

MindlessOath · Jan 18, 2005, 01:21 PM

their not suppose to work with your laptop... those are not supported. im sure that omega and patje will help you out if you ask them tho, well you will have to wait for omega to release his, but patje may help you with the mod tool if its not working.

me972 · Jan 18, 2005, 04:06 PM

ATI seem to have a hard time starting of this year.?!? whats up with that?

are the drivers so super optimized that nothng can be tuned and made faster and better? are the all done with OpenGL optimizations?

Zorg · Jan 18, 2005, 08:29 PM

....otherwise no improvements! Pretending to do something?

awarded a 5..

cypher_138 · Jan 19, 2005, 07:51 AM

This is a solid release so I vote a 9. No dramatic speed or performance boost but I assume the code was pruned to lay the ground work for future plans. Catalyst are all about evolution IMO.
It seems ATI is focusing on CCC in preparation for .net2 and phasing out the old CP.

TJ- · Jan 19, 2005, 08:00 AM

i said i wasnt gunna install these cause the 2.5.97a's were the bestever , but i did and was really dissapointed. Ati....whats thedeal.,...get better not worse!!!!

gave a 6

MousePotato · Jan 19, 2005, 11:59 AM

solid 8

Alistair · Jan 19, 2005, 01:09 PM

8. No crashes in EverQuest II, but I still have to use extreme performance for things to be playable indoors.

wiskerbizkit · Jan 19, 2005, 02:06 PM

I gave these drivers a 4, Upgrading from Omega 412's i lost 35 fps in WoW and the FSAA wasn't working right.

BurL · Jan 19, 2005, 03:48 PM

I gave this set a 7. I like there stability but, no performance increases. I would rather have stability than speed, besides everything is still playable for me. Speed hits were negligable so all in all a descent set of cats.

Jitter · Jan 19, 2005, 06:28 PM

I gave them a 4 I was very dissapointed w/ the whole DRiver/CCC in general. I expected ATI to have something special up their sleeve for the first release of the new year. For the first time in probably a yr the drivers did not install properly the first time, plus i am getting performance decreases across the board. I think these drivers are a definite step back from the 4.12's and even 4.12 betas. I ended up switching back to the 4.12s.

TJ- · Jan 19, 2005, 06:31 PM

some body isnt going to be to happy about the comments in this thread...

UnTouchAble · Jan 20, 2005, 08:27 AM

5..

tornadog · Jan 20, 2005, 09:12 PM

too bad I voted too sooon, release notes says flickering in pirates is fixed, but I get the flickering when AA is enabled, makes one wonder how ATI is testing their fixes? hope its not " ok it runs on my pc and Damien's, so lets put it in the release notes!!"

Exceededgoku · Jan 21, 2005, 07:04 PM

Has anyone here found that games crash on 5.1's after overclocking and playing for about an hour or more? sometimes shorter (our beta testers have found some problems with overclocking and the 5.1's). Any input?

YeCkeL · Jan 22, 2005, 11:09 AM

Funny enough i feel they floor UT2k4 faster so *thumbs up* 9

View Poll Results: Rate Catalyst 5.1 (driver only)
10 (best)	415	30.51%
9	269	19.78%
8	244	17.94%
7	114	8.38%
6	103	7.57%
5	80	5.88%
4	45	3.31%
3	35	2.57%
2	23	1.69%
1 (worst)	32	2.35%
Voters: 1360. This poll is closed

Jan 17, 2005, 04:14 PM	#1
*Zardon* enchanted Join Date: May 2002 Location: Driverheaven Posts: 32,255 Rep Power: 3150	Rate Catalyst 5.1 (Driver only) You know the drill from 10 (best) to 1 (worst).

Jan 17, 2005, 06:07 PM	#2
nuG is having a sexy party Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: East Coast Posts: 1,780 Rep Power: 0	no performance increases?!?!?? damn oh well they seem to be stable enough. i give them an hm......... lets see........ 7 __________________ [COLOR=Black][/COLOR]

Jan 17, 2005, 06:28 PM	#4
Clubber DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Boston, USA. Posts: 152 Rep Power: 0	With the 4.12's I score 101.23 in the source stress test. With the 5.1's I score a 85.01 __________________ [color=Red]DFI LanpartyUT nF4 SLI-DR Expert AMD Opteron 148 Venus G.Skill Extreme Series (2 x 1GB) eVGA 7800GT (x2) SoundBlaster Audigy 2zs SeaGate Barracuda 120GB OCZ PowerStream 600watt BIX III, Storm, Maze's, D5[/color][color=Teal][color=Red][/color] [/color]

Jan 18, 2005, 11:55 AM	#10
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Some Where in Ohio Posts: 6,344 Rep Power: 103 System Specs	I gain 4 fps on my graphics card __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun"

Jan 17, 2005, 06:18 PM	#3
Raff_3DC 3dcenter.de Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Hessen, Germany Posts: 118 Rep Power: 0	I think 9 points are fair. ATi did a very good job with getting the Catalyst-drivers that stable & compatible they are. Well ... there are only very few increases in speed--but compatiblity raised by a small amount. BTW: Don't mind. 10 points means "perfect" to me -- and that's impossible. MfG, Raff

Jan 17, 2005, 06:55 PM	#5
brandon105 DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 125 Rep Power: 0	Enable AI and check your CCC settings.

Jan 17, 2005, 10:22 PM	#7
JokerRJA DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 47 Rep Power: 0	In Rome: Total War it's even slower than it was than 4.12.

Jan 17, 2005, 11:24 PM	#8
tornadog DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 120 Rep Power: 0	not a good start to New year, all scores are down and no real fixes its back to 4.12 for me, till ....

Jan 18, 2005, 12:12 AM	#9
theonlybabyface GO CANUCKS GO!!! Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 140 Rep Power: 0	4.12's work fine so no need to update unless I read words like "fast", "awesome", etc.

Jan 18, 2005, 12:38 PM	#11
GeneralClaymore DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 431 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	there working just as good as 4.12 for me. and i gain some perfomance here and there and i notice a graphics boost a bit. i keeping these 5.1 __________________

Jan 18, 2005, 12:42 PM	#12
FiatluX DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 58 Rep Power: 0	10 Gave ´em a 10 coz when I changed to watercooling on my 9700pro the 4.12s and 4.11s ceased to work and I had to go back to the 4.10s No pic at all after bootscreen and these just booted into desktop perfectly ! __________________ Asus A8V-E SE A64 Venice 3200+ @2400 (10X240) CPU & NB Watercooled 3Gb Corsair XPS DDR400 Inno3D 6800GS PCI-E Watercooled Vista RTM

Jan 18, 2005, 12:44 PM	#13
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,176 Rep Power: 94 System Specs	I give the drivers a 9 as they are very stable on my setup __________________

Jan 18, 2005, 12:53 PM	#14
danholo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Utter crap. Even after using the ModTools for my Mobility Radeon 9200 it complains that the new drivers are not compatible with my card.

Jan 18, 2005, 01:19 PM	#15
Ripsaw DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 46 Rep Power: 0	Gave it a 5. Too ho hum. No optimizations or performance increases, and most importantly, the memory allocation situtation with 256mb cards is still not optimal.

Jan 18, 2005, 01:21 PM	#16
MindlessOath DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,142 Rep Power: 0	their not suppose to work with your laptop... those are not supported. im sure that omega and patje will help you out if you ask them tho, well you will have to wait for omega to release his, but patje may help you with the mod tool if its not working. __________________ ATI Radeon X800XT PE <---- LOOK UPDATED!! AMD Athlon 2Ghz, nforce2, 512mb ddr3500 LINKS U SHOULD KNOW!!!! DriverCleaner - use every time u install new drivers! ATI driver feedback - to report driver problems Tacticalcenter - my Gaming website and forums ATI 3rd party Optimized Driver Compairison

Jan 18, 2005, 04:06 PM	#17
me972 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 683 Rep Power: 0	ATI seem to have a hard time starting of this year.?!? whats up with that? are the drivers so super optimized that nothng can be tuned and made faster and better? are the all done with OpenGL optimizations? __________________ *Modding is heavenly - 9800SE/PRO/NP to XT guide*

Jan 18, 2005, 08:29 PM	#18
Zorg DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 204 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	at least the driver version changed.... ....otherwise no improvements! Pretending to do something? awarded a 5..

Jan 19, 2005, 07:51 AM	#19
cypher_138 Watching 1984 unfold Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Locked in a cage in some warehouse called NJ Posts: 238 Rep Power: 0	This is a solid release so I vote a 9. No dramatic speed or performance boost but I assume the code was pruned to lay the ground work for future plans. Catalyst are all about evolution IMO. It seems ATI is focusing on CCC in preparation for .net2 and phasing out the old CP. __________________ This is my "sig". There are many like them but this one is mine.

Jan 19, 2005, 08:00 AM	#20
TJ- DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Infinity Posts: 3,682 Rep Power: 0	i said i wasnt gunna install these cause the 2.5.97a's were the bestever , but i did and was really dissapointed. Ati....whats thedeal.,...get better not worse!!!! gave a 6 __________________ new sig comming soon

Jan 19, 2005, 11:59 AM	#21
MousePotato DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2002 Location: N.S., Canada Posts: 119 Rep Power: 46 System Specs	solid 8

Jan 19, 2005, 01:09 PM	#22
Alistair Spoos Join Date: May 2002 Location: State College, PA, USA Posts: 441 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	8. No crashes in EverQuest II, but I still have to use extreme performance for things to be playable indoors. __________________ - Alistair

Jan 19, 2005, 02:06 PM	#23
wiskerbizkit DH ***** hobo Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Columbia SC Posts: 473 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I gave these drivers a 4, Upgrading from Omega 412's i lost 35 fps in WoW and the FSAA wasn't working right.

Jan 19, 2005, 03:48 PM	#24
BurL Liver SUCKS!!!! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 230 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I gave this set a 7. I like there stability but, no performance increases. I would rather have stability than speed, besides everything is still playable for me. Speed hits were negligable so all in all a descent set of cats. __________________ If I had a bean burrito I would smash it all over my chest.

Jan 19, 2005, 06:28 PM	#25
Jitter DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 532 Rep Power: 0	I gave them a 4 I was very dissapointed w/ the whole DRiver/CCC in general. I expected ATI to have something special up their sleeve for the first release of the new year. For the first time in probably a yr the drivers did not install properly the first time, plus i am getting performance decreases across the board. I think these drivers are a definite step back from the 4.12's and even 4.12 betas. I ended up switching back to the 4.12s. __________________ Sony Vaio PCV-RX670 P4 1.8ghz XP Pro SP2 1 GB PC2100 RAM ATI All in Wonder 9700 pro Audigy 2 ZS Aquamark ~29,500 3dMark03 ~ 5,000

Jan 19, 2005, 06:31 PM	#26
TJ- DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Infinity Posts: 3,682 Rep Power: 0	some body isnt going to be to happy about the comments in this thread... __________________ new sig comming soon

Jan 20, 2005, 08:27 AM	#27
UnTouchAble DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: S-O-T Posts: 348 Rep Power: 0	5..

Jan 20, 2005, 09:12 PM	#28
tornadog DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 120 Rep Power: 0	too bad I voted too sooon, release notes says flickering in pirates is fixed, but I get the flickering when AA is enabled, makes one wonder how ATI is testing their fixes? hope its not " ok it runs on my pc and Damien's, so lets put it in the release notes!!"

Jan 21, 2005, 07:04 PM	#29
Exceededgoku DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincolnshire, UK Posts: 95 Rep Power: 0	Has anyone here found that games crash on 5.1's after overclocking and playing for about an hour or more? sometimes shorter (our beta testers have found some problems with overclocking and the 5.1's). Any input? __________________ Vista Ultimate x64 edition rocks my world! Makes XP (and lower) look like dried poo stains on the wall! Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 3.2Ghz (400Mhzx8) 1.52V (set in bios, 1.47v real) \| 2GB GeIL PC6400 4-4-4-12 @ 1000Mhz 5-5-5-15 \| Gigabyte DQ6 @ 1600Mhz \| Sapphire 512MB X1900XTX @ 689/774 \| Enermax Liberty 620W \| Silverstone TJ07-B with custom watercooling \| Dell 2005FPW 3dmark05 - 13140 \| 3dmark06 - 6698 \| SuperPi 1M - 15s

Jan 22, 2005, 11:09 AM	#30
YeCkeL DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kansas City, Mo Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	Funny enough i feel they floor UT2k4 faster so thumbs up 9