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Old Jan 8, 2005, 04:59 AM   #1
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9600xt 256MB with overdrive but no overdrive

Well, 9800Pro died, bought new card, 9800Pro undied , got my Sapphire 9600XT today anyway.

Due to me spending good money and never playing any games and being afraid that the 9800Pro might die again I will stick with the 9600XT 256MB now, plus it runs cooler I take it.

Anyway so I reinstalled the display drivers and it says on the card overdrive enabled. I dont want to OC just get the temps but in my display drivers its not showing up?!

Any tips of this card? How hot should it run?

If I get a VGA silence I should be able to run it on low fan speed isnt it because the 9600Xt is cooler then a 9800Pro.

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Old Jan 8, 2005, 08:51 AM   #2
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Well, 9800Pro died, bought new card, 9800Pro undied , got my Sapphire 9600XT today anyway.

Due to me spending good money and never playing any games and being afraid that the 9800Pro might die again I will stick with the 9600XT 256MB now, plus it runs cooler I take it.

Anyway so I reinstalled the display drivers and it says on the card overdrive enabled. I dont want to OC just get the temps but in my display drivers its not showing up?!

Any tips of this card? How hot should it run?

If I get a VGA silence I should be able to run it on low fan speed isnt it because the 9600Xt is cooler then a 9800Pro.
Dunno alot of saphire cards don't have it....
useally becouse they disabled it in the cards bios...

O/D requires 3 things and overdrive table bios, drivers that support over drive, CP or CCC with overdrive.....

If you don't get over drive join the club of millions of displeased "powerd by" users who recived cards with over drive "disabled". ALL 9600XT cores support over drive. They disable it for many ressons but if they didn't fallow the referance cooler desighn or shipped the card with 3rd party o/cing tools. thats probubly why....

Haven't monkied with you services? have you?
things like ATI hot key poller needs to be running or over drive will be disabled
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Old Jan 8, 2005, 09:07 AM   #3
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well i can see my temps in atitool. that all that matters

just wanted to see the normal running temps so when i get my artic cooler i can make sure i installed it properly and on low fan settings it cools enough.

on my box it has a sticker which says Overdrive enabled...

so must be driver problem. but i reinstalled the 4.12 again with no joy

gotta say for a £100 card the 9600XT has amazing performance!!! well pleased (OMG english slang noooo)
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Old Jan 8, 2005, 01:57 PM   #4
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I have the same card, Sapphire 9600XT. No overdrive tab in the 4.12 drivers for me either.

Shame on Sapphire for disabling access to an official ATI feature!
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Old Jan 8, 2005, 03:43 PM   #5
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ati tool disables the overdrive tab, so as to prevent double overclocking. if you want it back, uninstall ATI tool, i wouldn't sugggest overdrive, it only has 3 settings and only oc the VPU and not the memory (which is the bottleneck and the only one that needs oc'ing), depending on the temperature diode which is built in into ALL XT cards.

In fact, I would't OC it at all, on my 9600 XT, gains in benchmark with ridiculous VPU OC like +80mhz is only 5 to 10% and real world performance isn't any better, only more unstable. Because the memory is calculated DDR, the most I could do with ATI tool (which does OC memory unlike overdrive) is +10 or 20 mhz or about 20 to 40 DDR).


Not worth the effort or expense IMHO, especially when installing an aftermarket cooler WILL probably invalidate your warranty (I know it does for ATI made cards).

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Old Jan 8, 2005, 05:50 PM   #6
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ati tool disables the overdrive tab, so as to prevent double overclocking. if you want it back, uninstall ATI tool, i wouldn't sugggest overdrive, it only has 3 settings and only oc the VPU and not the memory (which is the bottleneck and the only one that needs oc'ing), depending on the temperature diode which is built in into ALL XT cards.

In fact, I would't OC it at all, on my 9600 XT, gains in benchmark with ridiculous VPU OC like +80mhz is only 5 to 10% and real world performance isn't any better, only more unstable. Because the memory is calculated DDR, the most I could do with ATI tool (which does OC memory unlike overdrive) is +10 or 20 mhz or about 20 to 40 DDR).


Not worth the effort or expense IMHO, especially when installing an aftermarket cooler WILL probably invalidate your warranty (I know it does for ATI made cards).
as I said I dont want to OC just check the temps. And I decided to install the zalman passive heatsink cooler for the card. it cooler my 9800pro before i had WC and the 9600XT puts out a LOT less heat. itouched the heatsink of the 9600xt after benchmark and it was warm on the 9800pro it would burn.

all good. and dont worry about warranties.... nothing breaks unless you break it and trust me all this hardware takes a lot more beating before it dies then you would guess water damage etc the like
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Old Jan 9, 2005, 01:08 AM   #7
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ati tool disables the overdrive tab, so as to prevent double overclocking. if you want it back, uninstall ATI tool,
I did not know this.
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Old Jan 10, 2005, 04:17 AM   #8
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I have the same problem, i just reformated my HD recently, i don't use atitool but with 4.12beta i had the overdrive tab and with the 4.12 the tab is missing. it's odd cos i own a Sapphire Radeon9600XT.
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use a program called ATI tool to overclock and see the temp. u can use other tools to overclock that all overdrive tab is.
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ati tool disables the overdrive tab, so as to prevent double overclocking. if you want it back, uninstall ATI tool,
THX! I have my Overdrive back!
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