help me sort out my comp please

pillboy

hi everyone i got a new comp last week and i have a bit of a problem with it i installed 6 games but only 2 actually worked they were doom 3 and shadow ops,but the others crashed at the main menu screen i did not get kicked back to desktop or the blue error screen it just crashes and switchs the monitor off but the comp is still on i have to switch off/on at power socket which i know is not good.
the games that don't work are
fifa 2005
nam 67
tiger woods 2005
champ snooker 2005
i have installed latest direct x cat ver 4.6,4.8,4.10 still same problem

http://www.tiny.com/packages.php?prodid=11489

click link to see my specs please guys need help badly

CaptinSxb

Welcome to Dh, did you just reinstall each new driver when one didnt work?

pillboy

i'm afraid i did, this is first ati based card i have had use to have a geforce 4 before and just use to install over the top there was never a problem

riles9262

You're not overclocking in any way are you? Try to put the agp to 4x and set fastwrites off if they're on.

pillboy

no not overclocked

refraction

this is going to be highly unhelpful but, Tiny computers are crap, the spec looks very nice but theyve probably ruined it, most of these companies do (Dell is alright tho) so dont be suprised if its nothing to do with drivers.

pillboy

it cannot be that bad there are using decent parts and a built just like any comp

refraction

but thats the thing, they dont tell you what makes the parts are, so they could be the cheapest and nastiest bits ever, which really wouldnt suprise me, dont be shocked if that 9800 is actually an SE model which is one of the worst 9800's there is

pillboy

yes it is the se but i knew that before i bought it was only going to be a temp solution anyway do you have any idea what the problem might be

Zebra

First, Go find the latest chipset drivers for your system board, and install them, this goes for your audio card as well. I recommend you download Omega's drivers for your ATI video card. Download Drivercleaner from this site and run it following its directions, then install the Omega drivers.

Can you tell us what service pack is installed on your computer? It wouldn't hurt to get XP up to date as well.

It may well be your PSU, 300W is NOT enough, IMO, with all the features you have. Get a 450W or better.

Add your system specs to your signature here.

refraction

yeh 300 watts youd be lucky for anything to work with that spec i recon, i think most people recomment about 400 or more watts for that kind of rig, i just get away with it on a 350, but the machine is unstable at times (not the one im on now but my xp 3000+ rig).

also as he said update your chipset drivers, your agp driver could be at fault there.

pillboy

where can i find the latest drivers for my motherboard not sure what make it is either i am new to this what do you mean by my psu? how can i tell if its powerful enough

refraction

youll just have to trust us on it not being powerful enough, you need that bit extra anyway because of the graphics card requiring an extra power connector.

to find out what chipset drivers you need, download a tool called cpu-z thatll tell you the exact model of your motherboard n hopefully what chipset you are running.

if its via you want the via 4-in-1 drivers from viaarena.com

if its an intel chipset (which i can see it all being integrated) then you will probably need the intel inf update, probably available from intels site, funny enough ;p if youd feel safer follow the link cpu-z gives you for the manufacturers page and get it from their site

pillboy

my motherboard is from first international computers known as FIC model is p4m-800m
chipset via id 259
southbridge via vt8237
bios
version 6.00pg

got on web site went to motherboard downloads there was no update for my mobo what now any ideas?

refraction

well seen as your motherboard seems to be via based, go for the via 4-in-1 drivers from http://www.viaarena.com that will be your chipset drivers.

pillboy

thanks for your help so far mate

refraction

no probs, i hope it works, cos i have to goto work in a moment so you wont hear from me for about 12 hours

icon21

Hi guys i wonder if anyone can help me out? I seem to have the same problem as pillboy had. i brought my tiny computer over christmas. my comp spec is pentium 4 3 ghz. motherboard is fic p4m-800m my card is radeon 9800. ram is 1024 200g hard drive. i had hakf lift 2 which keeped crashing. and now its happening to star wars battlefront (well jared off) can anyone please help??????

headsy

ive got the same prob atm icon. ive had the computer returned and they say that the card has been replaced and its sorted but its not. ive been told to format and install .net framework then the gfx drivers first. ill c what happens.

greyze

w00t!!!! INSANE I THINK I GOT THE ANSWER FOR ALL YOUR PROBLEMS GUYS

ive also bought one of them tiny pcs, and if i play high power demanding games like battlefield2 or half-life 2 after a while it will crash.

ive tryed LOTS AND LOTS of ways to fix it and ive already done all the things you guys said inthis post but it dosnt fix..

i sent my PC to a computer shop and they said the motherboard is too old and crap to support that much power, i also have a fic p4m-800m and they said that this motherboard is shit, tiny may offer good things but you they will give u other important pieces which are crap

they suggested an new motherboard so as soon as i get a new one and it stops crashing i will let you know

ive had this pc sinse christmas and its been crashing and i also changed my graphics card and still dos so lets hope

for people who are reading this, NEVER buy a tiny computer you may think its good specs but the small pieces are most inportant which they WILL RIP YOU OFF ON