digitalwanderer

After installing these I goofed up a bit and accidently set the shader filter to "massive blur" or some such and all me games looked like it was the revenge of Quincux and I thought "OMMFG!!!!! "

Then I figured me goof and it was all better, a solid and good release. (But I still don't really care for the new CCC, but that's a personal thing)

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jjscc

Does anyone knows if the video problems playback on Laptops is gone with this new release?
The one reported since Catalyst 4.5 I think...

And how do I patch these drivers so I can install them on my ACER ASPIRE 1600? I think there was a tool around? Does it still works with this new version?

Best regards!

Shinjikun

What type of video card does your laptop use? The inf file has to be modified in order to use the desktop Catalyst driver suite; or you can use the Omega drivers (when he drops his 4.9 set).

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dle3

The laptops playback problem is still here with cat 4.9 (i have a mobility radeon 9600). But I noticed a strange thing: some players work, and some not. For example, with Media Player Classic i have no problem playing videos, but with BSPlayer and VideoLAN my laptop hangs... why MPC works?

I'm a long time reader, but a first time poster because writing in english is very difficult to me...

Sorry for my very very bad english

Have a nice day

jjscc

My Laptop has a Radeon 9000 with 64mb DDR

Shinjikun

More than likely you can just go for the latest Omega drivers; they are modified and should install on your mobility chipset card. If you have an issue w/them then the lastest 4.9 set should be out shortly as well.

You can still go for a tool (or do it yourself) to modify the INF file in the desktop Catalyst drivers so that they will install on your mobility Radeon but it'll be easier just to use the Omega drivers.

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jjscc

I already use the Omega drivers for some time now.

The problem is that this video issue with Radeon 9000 started to happen after Omegas 2.5.44 and the most recent drivers witg Catalyst 4.8 has the same problem. This is a known problem but seems that no one knows hot to solve it.

Lets hope Omega can have this fixed with the new drivers...

Thanks.

Shinjikun

I see. Well beyond using an older version of the Omega driver I don't know what to recommend. You can try the Omega Drivers based on the 3.10 version and see if that helps; those are the best 'non-new' drivers in my opinion.

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jjscc

Sorry... the 2.5.44 works for me. Its after that version the problem exists.

Anyway... I'm confident that an Omega drivers version eventually will come out with this fixed

KYPREO

I don't have any DVD related issues with either latest omega's or catalyst 4.9 on my notebook (mobility 9600P).

I've tried Windows Media Player and AsusDVD and its fine.

There are some issues with omega drivers and some games it seems. Noteably on mine, sunglare enabled caused a complete crash (Gun Metal) - others have reported issues with smoke?

FWIW, I got better timedemo in Doom 3 with Cat 4.9 over latest omega drivers (approx 1fps increase), as well as an increase CPU score in 3dMark03 from 400-405 to 465-468, as noted on an earlier page. I found omega drivers performance approximate to what I was getting with Catalyst 4.8.

jjscc

The problem I'l talking about is not related with DVD. Its related with all movies... DVD, MPG, AVI, etc.
This as been reported many times on the past. Take a look at Omega releases threads.

Its a known problem that Omega is aware of. The only thing I dont know for sure is if its a catalyst problem or a omega tweeking problem.

dle3

The laptops playback problem is a Catalyst problem that affect also the OmegaDriver because they are obviously based on Catalyst... In fact the problem appears not only with Omega, but also with modded Catalyst.

BWX

This is why I don't trust M$- Can You see my piont of view now?







That is why I tweak, and turn off things like file and printer sharing if I don't need them on...


I will never trust M$.... even if they make me sign a release.


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MEABeemer

Hey you guys!

Remember this one?!Well, I just about had it with not even one person who could come up with an answer! Soooo... After some serious testing on my new rig, I finally found the problem that no other person could in the whole world!

Just make sure you have this folder "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Desktop" and voila!!!! PROBLEM SOLVED!!!

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Chaos

What does any of this have to do the the Catalyst 4.9

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BWX

The 4.9 w/ CCC requires services that I previously had no need to run. I didn't run many of these services for security and other reasons... If I want to use the CCC I need to run them.

I was told, well..... A bunch of things...



The above link is an example of why none of that is true and why there are reasons why I turn off certain services and security risks if I don't need them.

It has to do with ATI drivers and software if that is the only reason you need to run those services/ etc...

Basically M$ does not deserve to be trusted without investigation with any default settings... All default settings should be looked at with great caution and skepticism. Especially the services.



edit- repeat word and whatnot lol....

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eggs420

It took a major wake-up call to shake unixland for default services in common distros to be reviewed..First came the massive RPC attacks, but the real kicker was when most/all of the telnetd services were found vulnerable to serious attack and very soon after distros started coming much much more locked down. Microsoft has only begun the process with sp2..Longhorn I suspect will change things a bit in this dept. Microsoft enables all of those services by default for the same reason as unix - Maximum functionality. That's all. As said above, disabling services is not for the average user, and totally should not be done based on just something you read, or a list you found.

Lots of people make the mistake of failing to realize their specific hardware/software setup requires some services they wouldn't otherwise need..Or they dive headfirst and disable things they *think* they do not need. One thing that has to be kept in mind is that just because you don't need a service today, doesn't mean that new app (*cough* CCC) will not require use of it, either. 99% of the service-related problems I read about are caused by a new program or upgrade or the like. Program authors do not develop their software on every possible setup, they go by what is deemed the "default" which is plainly windows out of the box-style. We tweakers of services, freers of resources, whatever, are in the minority in that manner. If you think you are such a wiz at tweaking out your rig, but a new app like CCC throws you for such a spin over the services you disabled, obviously you don't know as much as you thought..First step should be to think "what do I have that differs from a common, default, configuration". Anywho, what was this thread about again?

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swatX

i dont what with people and m$

like they computer is actually going to get hacked by a hacker. you are one in million targets for a hacker what are the chances of you being specifically hacked . GO FIGURE

also if you dont like CCC DONT FREAKING USE IT. why cant you people get it?

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BWX

There are 140 customers on my node- I trust one of them.

Maniak

Yeah, the above link doesn't advocate disabling the service, you know ?

Besides :
- if you're so concerned about security, you probably don't use the integrated XP firewall, right ?
- if you're so concerned about security, you're probably using a good third-party firewall, or even a hardware box, right ? In both cases, unwanted access to your computer is quite easily stopped. In fact, it is stopped in the default configuration of any half-good firewall, no matter the state of the service.
- if your computer is not on a local network, you probably don't have any public shared folder, right ? So there's no problem anyway.
- why wouldn't the article advise to disable the file & printer sharing even when the computer isn't on a LAN ? Could it be because they know that applications can use a 'local' client/server model and thus need the networking services ?
- even if the article was advising it, you wouldn't believe anything written on only one page without seeing proof of it with your own eyes, right ?
- if you're *that* set against MS, what are you doing with Windows, especially XP ?
- most of all, what does this have to do with ATI ?

That has really nothing to do with the CCC. Just with misplaced paranoia


PS: don't worry, I won't continue arguing on this
I'll wait for the next attempt to explain why you "need" to disable some services and then tell ATI they need to do something if their app can't work without them. And if that's not what you're trying to explain (though ATI's role in this 'Windows service' thing was the main, if not only, point), I'm wondering why you brought this back to life when it was happily buried.

MindlessOath

why would anyone care to have a framework file installed anyways?
its a freeking framework file. u probably have framework files for VC++5 MFC somewhere on your computer, u rpobebly have vb4/5/6 runtime frameworks on your computer too.

whys .net going to do to u? nothing... unless u use something that can run using it, hence CCC, which needs it. argh.

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HawK

What else is there to use for PC-gaming?, and does that mean we have to blindly follow everything MS cooks up?

Question is are we paranoia enough..
XP-SP2 was announced to be a unmatched security highpoint.
yet allready there are found mayor leaks again, to update your system with a patch you'll have to go to microsoft
where you have to disable your firewall and 3'd party cookies or you won't get an update...(refering to the new update rule)
Thus when I need the 101st update for .Net i'll have to leave my system open for attacks..
because I need an update so I won't be attacked or vulnerable
Yes I'll know you'll say the chance of being attacked is very unlikely, but there still is a chance..
So yeh i'm paranoia, especially when MS is telling me all is well...

BWX

Exactly. Remember we wouldn't be having this discussion right now if not for the CCC.

Also, I do not hate M$, and I am not "paranoid" at all, but you have to think about security or it will be compromised eventually.

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Chaos

Ok peops lets get back to rating the Catalyst 4.9's not debating who's parinoid and who's not or if XP SP2 is secure or not..... Catalyst 4.9 are video card drivers folks so let try and remain on topic.

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yes master!

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The_Neon_Cowboy

This has been explained before CCC is relatively new and will be constantly
changing and evolving. Some thing scheduled, some things fixes, some things
from peoples feedback.



As The old CP was rather limited and frankly ages old. It was a long drawn out
process just to make a small correction little lone any major change. I don’t
know personally but I herd estimates that it takes like for 3-5 mouths to make
a Classic CP change. With CCC Changes can be implemented so much easier
and faster.



Since CCC is based on .Net it will lead up and through long horn in 2006. Along
that long an winding road we can expect the same more fixes as needed,
more features, and better performance. .Net has it’s advantages and Not only
will CCC evolve to meet the future. Microsoft is updating .Net as we speak.
I’ve personally used the 2.0 beta frame work. It’s a faster, smoother
experience and as I’ve shown in previous articles uses so very little recourses
you actually won’t know you had it installed or not.


In short CCC is the future. The classic control panel will linger until it comes
to pass that the new one gains enough popularity. When this happens there
really is no longer a need for the classic control panel. It would be a waste of
time money and recourses to continue to advance the old control panel.
Consider the old CP a little more then a diversion. When this does happen this
also allows ATI to bring their full focus onto CCC. This is very a good thing.



I’ve seen a lot of opinions regarding CCC. Some Good bad and some even
down right horrible. I was surprised to see a lot of the people that are putting
it down a scrutinizing it so much. Of them many either never gave CCC the
chance it deserves. But, I’m even more surprised even appalled at some of
the people that have been making the largest sink about CCC and .Net has
surprisingly never installed .Net or CCC! According to polls it seems A good 8-
10 percent refuse to use for the simple reason of it being based on .net.
Another 18-20 % refuse and have never bothered to use to use it because of
the all negative PR / feedback they are reading in forums.


25% – 30% don’t like it for one reason or another and don’t use it. Roughly
50% of ATI users are actually using CCC. Another untold amount of people
own the older cards have yet to have the ability to install CCC. But CCC will
eventually support those cards as well once some of the kinks get worked on
the newer cards.


Its in our nature to hang on to things of old. They hold a sentimental value, or
you know something well and don’ts want to move to something new no
matter what. Time is always moving and the longer you hold o tight to the
things of old. The harder it is to part with and move to the new things in
store for you.

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you should have included that 40% of the people hate microsoft

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KYPREO

OK...I am using modded catalyst drivers and I haven't encountered a video/movie playback issue. I've tried DVDs and MPGs and they're fine on my card. I had the omega drivers installed also, and I don't believe video playback was an issue with those either if my memory serves correct.

It may be an issue only on certain vendor mobility cards.

Mine is an Asus made M10P (Mobility Radeon 9600 Pro).

The_Neon_Cowboy

ROFL

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DarkFoss

I took my time and played with'em a bit before voting, I gave them a 9.
I didn't like them at first but after finally upgrading to xpsp2 all my games run very smooth even EverQuest. No small feat there!

I like the new CCC very much a couple small glitches like it identifying my monitor incorrectly as a VS 190s instead of an Xe-XP flat and cannot select 1600x1200 from the CCC. I'm not faulting ATI here, XP does the exact same thing and I always wind up forcing the monitor inf file to install after every driver change, the CCC doesn't pick up the inf file change. Also every time I close outthe CCC I get the following error;

************** Exception Text **************
System.InvalidOperationException: DragDrop registration failed. ---> System.Threading.ThreadStateException: The current thread must set to Single Thread Apartment (STA) mode before OLE calls can be made. Ensure that your Main function has STAThreadAttribute marked on it.
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.SetAcceptDrops(Boolea n accept)
--- End of inner exception stack trace ---
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.SetAcceptDrops(Boolea n accept)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnHandleCreated(Event Args e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmCreate(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Mes sage& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage (Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(M essage& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

I have to hit the continue button 3x for it to finally close out. Maybe time for a clean install of XP with sp2 integrated, it has been 8 months

Overall I'd say another fine job by ATI, keep up the great work!!

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