When can we expect a fix for TV out issue? (black bar)

Draxx · Jul 8, 2004, 02:09 PM

The "big black bar at the bottom of the screen" issue when overscan is enabled on the TV output.

ATI introduced it in the 4.5's, still broken in the 4.6's and now still broken in the 4.7's.

All works fine with the 4.4's and below.

Thanks in advance

shadowcatcher · Jul 8, 2004, 06:15 PM

If someone has info, would really like to know here too ... Nasty bug.

***Zardon*** · Jul 8, 2004, 06:17 PM

ill see what I can find out.

Judas · Jul 9, 2004, 12:54 AM

Card type... Who made it..... Any mods.... how does the bar appear.. does it simply completely block out the entire bottom part.. or does it simply cut out a chunk of the bottom.. but still leave a little sliver left?.... I tried overscan on my tv with a AIW and a 9200 as well with the 8500le i have.... i haven't any issues....

BTW... what method are you using to connection to the TV? S-video.... coxial... Component... RCA?

shadowcatcher · Jul 9, 2004, 01:08 AM

Well, I have a R9600XT Sapphire Fireblade. Connecting to a TV with coaxial or S-Video gives a black bar on the bottom, a.k.a, the picture is not centered. All fine till 4.4's.
ATI confirmed an issue with TV-out with OGL or D3D games not centered on TV out, but this is happening with TV output also. Overscan mode seems to be affected. Theatre mode was working fine with 4.5 and 4.6. Did not try 4.7's, would really like to, but that black bar really bothers my eyes.

Judas · Jul 9, 2004, 01:22 AM

What tv's would take advantage of overscan.... i'm unsure of the use.... is the tv not setup correctly with the screen at the correct dimensions?

Draxx · Jul 9, 2004, 02:14 AM

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Originally posted by Judas
Card type... Who made it..... Any mods.... how does the bar appear.. does it simply completely block out the entire bottom part.. or does it simply cut out a chunk of the bottom.. but still leave a little sliver left?.... I tried overscan on my tv with a AIW and a 9200 as well with the 8500le i have.... i haven't any issues....

BTW... what method are you using to connection to the TV? S-video.... coxial... Component... RCA?

Powercolor rebadged BBA 9800 np
Zalman HP cooler fitted
Bar appears on bottom part of screen (about 1~2 inches high) when overscan is enabled
SVHS connection to 28" widescreen TV

Draxx · Jul 9, 2004, 02:16 AM

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Originally posted by Judas
What tv's would take advantage of overscan.... i'm unsure of the use.... is the tv not setup correctly with the screen at the correct dimensions?

If overscan is not enabled there is a small black border around the whole screen, overscan "scans" the picture over the sides of the screen, thus no black border around the screen. That was the case until ATI released the 4.5, 4.6 and 4.7 drivers, No problems whatsoever with the 4.4's.

Draxx · Jul 10, 2004, 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by Zardon
ill see what I can find out.

Found anything out yet mate?

Judas · Jul 10, 2004, 03:17 PM

Strange... i guess i've never ran into a tv that had a border issue... as every tv i've come across ither has the border reguardless of having overscan enabled (as the tube just can't spit out photons beyond it's reach).... or the box around it fits it just right giving you zero borders..... if overscanning does the trick.... i guess it does the trick.... Sorry, i'm of no help

***Zardon*** · Jul 10, 2004, 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by Draxx
Found anything out yet mate?

its the weekend bud, ill get a hold of someone on monday about it, I promise, cool?

Draxx · Jul 12, 2004, 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by Zardon
its the weekend bud, ill get a hold of someone on monday about it, I promise, cool?

Luck?

shadowcatcher · Jul 13, 2004, 02:10 AM

A little update : 4.7 with overscan enabled, you still get the bat at the bottom. But in 4.5 and 4.6, when playing movie in theatre mode, things are back to normal. With 4.7, black bar stays with overscan enabled. There is a new button - named Video mode, appears on displays - TV - adjustments when TV output is enabled and watching some movie. Undocumented. Personally, I like overscan mode better.

Draxx · Jul 13, 2004, 06:07 AM

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Originally posted by shadowcatcher
A little update : 4.7 with overscan enabled, you still get the bat at the bottom. But in 4.5 and 4.6, when playing movie in theatre mode, things are back to normal. With 4.7, black bar stays with overscan enabled. There is a new button - named Video mode, appears on displays - TV - adjustments when TV output is enabled and watching some movie. Undocumented. Personally, I like overscan mode better.

Any idea what this video mode does?

Also any idea if ATI are addressing the bar broblem?

shadowcatcher · Jul 13, 2004, 07:17 AM

As I said, not documented anywhere. But improves display a bit. I still find overscan better from my point of view. I appreciate the new stuff, but let me choose what I want.
About the issue, it has been adressed in 4.5' notes but only for D3D and OGL. No updates since.

pr0digal jenius · Jul 14, 2004, 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by Draxx
Luck?

settle.....lest he get mad and withhold his vast knowledgefrom you...bwahahaha

also..have you tried the UniAN catalyst 4.7's as they have a HDTV ptch built in...i'd be insterested to see if that fixed overscan

Dimmuxx · Jul 19, 2004, 07:33 PM

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Originally posted by shadowcatcher
A little update : 4.7 with overscan enabled, you still get the bat at the bottom. But in 4.5 and 4.6, when playing movie in theatre mode, things are back to normal. With 4.7, black bar stays with overscan enabled. There is a new button - named Video mode, appears on displays - TV - adjustments when TV output is enabled and watching some movie. Undocumented. Personally, I like overscan mode better.

If you turn off and then turn on overscan while the movie is playing it will work in 4.7.

Any update on when this will be fixed btw?