Radeon 64MB VIVO WinXP detects "Unknown" Devices

CRNeo · Jul 8, 2002, 08:50 PM

When installing the latest drivers windows XP detect 2 unknown devices.... I know for a fact that these are to do with the graphics card, and I think they are to do with the video in/capture stuff but I have no idea which drivers to use. Anyone help

damm · Jul 9, 2002, 03:59 AM

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Originally posted by CRNeo
When installing the latest drivers windows XP detect 2 unknown devices.... I know for a fact that these are to do with the graphics card, and I think they are to do with the video in/capture stuff but I have no idea which drivers to use. Anyone help

Unfortunatly that is your Hardware MPEG and such that are being Unknown Devices,

I have a VIVO with W2K and i get the same thing with Catalyst, actually i went back to the previous rel of Omega because i didnt like the Catalyst.

I was getting more lockups then I've ever had,

What your missing should be,

ATI WDM Rage Theater Video, and
ATI WDM Specialized MVD Codec

Installing the TV Capture Drivers afterwards doesn't seem to help either. I would contact ATI with it, but i'd rather run Omega and avoid Catalyst 2.1

CRNeo · Jul 9, 2002, 10:53 PM

Which version of the omega drivers do you use then and where can I get older versions from? Do you play games a lot? I am unhappy with my XP installation and was considering going back to Windows 2K.... what sort of performance do you get?

damm · Jul 10, 2002, 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by CRNeo
Which version of the omega drivers do you use then and where can I get older versions from? Do you play games a lot? I am unhappy with my XP installation and was considering going back to Windows 2K.... what sort of performance do you get?

I play games ALOT, i get around 140-150fps with my VIVO. I imagine Cyborg would have the answer to getting older versions, I just found the Catalyst 2.1 drivers created those unknown devices by dropping the support.

Omega Plutonium X1.0.71b is the version i'm running, and i'm not upgrading my drivers until Catalyst 2.1 becomes Catalyst 2.4 and they fix the support.

I'm disenchanted with ATI at the moment, because i quite like my Hardware MPEG Motion and i dont think dropping the driver is a good idea.

I play mostly Quake3 Arena, Quake1 (i get around 160fps in that) and NeverWinter Nights as of lately...

brc64 · Jul 10, 2002, 04:15 PM

The unknown devices refer to the VIVO functionality of your video card. Install some WDM drivers and you'll be fine.

- Me

damm · Jul 10, 2002, 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by brc64
The unknown devices refer to the VIVO functionality of your video card. Install some WDM drivers and you'll be fine.

- Me

Can you please be more vague?

I'm sorry that really wasnt vague enough.

Did i mention that i installed the TV Capture WDM Drivers and it made no difference? Or did you not read that part.

~~Crash Override~~ · Jul 10, 2002, 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by damm
Can you please be more vague?

I'm sorry that really wasnt vague enough.

Did i mention that i installed the TV Capture WDM Drivers and it made no difference? Or did you not read that part.

He wasnt being vague.......he said it was the VIVO functionalities not working correctly

VIVO for anyone that owns a VIVO card is pretty clear as to what it means

as for the WDM drivers part of it on ATis site when you go to download drivers it has a list and one of them says WDM drivers so thats easy to find

and it should install fine and detect it fine unless sumthing isnt being setup right

are you cleaning out the drivers from the reg and getting rid of the files then reinstalling? that includes all tweakers MMC and anything vid card related

brc64 · Jul 11, 2002, 04:25 AM

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Originally posted by damm
Can you please be more vague?

I'm sorry that really wasnt vague enough.

Okay, install the drivers from ATI's website and everything will be good.
That better?

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Did i mention that i installed the TV Capture WDM Drivers and it made no difference? Or did you not read that part.

If that's the case, you either installed the wrong drivers, the drivers didn't get installed correctly (it happens), or you've got some other kind of weird system problem going on. Let me walk you through an experience I had with the Radeon 64 VIVO, the original Catalyst drivers, and Windows XP.

I downloaded and installed the display drivers, not really thinking that I needed more. After installing them, I restarted the computer. Unknown devices are detected in the device manager. Upon closer inspection, the device manager claims that these unknown devices are ON THE CARD itself. Doh.. forgot the WDMs. So I download and install the latest WDM drivers. Restart, and everything is back to normal.

If this doesn't work for you, then maybe you should try manually installing them. Run the WDM installer, but just let it extract the files to a directory.. don't let it start to install. Then, go into the device manager, find the unknown devices, then "Update Driver" them and point to the directory where the files were extracted. That SHOULD work.

- Me

Jeff · Jul 11, 2002, 04:45 AM

One thing, you can't install the 5118 or older drivers with the catalysts.

damm · Jul 11, 2002, 04:55 AM

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Originally posted by brc64
Okay, install the drivers from ATI's website and everything will be good.
That better?

If that's the case, you either installed the wrong drivers, the drivers didn't get installed correctly (it happens), or you've got some other kind of weird system problem going on. Let me walk you through an experience I had with the Radeon 64 VIVO, the original Catalyst drivers, and Windows XP.

Installed the proper drivers

I downloaded and installed the display drivers, not really thinking that I needed more. After installing them, I restarted the computer. Unknown devices are detected in the device manager. Upon closer inspection, the device manager claims that these unknown devices are ON THE CARD itself. Doh.. forgot the WDMs. So I download and install the latest WDM drivers. Restart, and everything is back to normal.

If this doesn't work for you, then maybe you should try manually installing them. Run the WDM installer, but just let it extract the files to a directory.. don't let it start to install. Then, go into the device manager, find the unknown devices, then "Update Driver" them and point to the directory where the files were extracted. That SHOULD work.

- Me

I might if i care to, But i'm tempted to just install the latest Plutonium instead.

_-=[LoTeK]=-_ · Jul 12, 2002, 05:45 AM

Since it seems a lot of you talk about the problem and are vague about solutions... why not just give him the friggin link to the file he needs to download and install... :-)
NOTE: THESE CAN BE USED WITH ANY CURRENT VERSION OF CATALYST DRIVER INCLUDING OMEGA/PLUTONIUMS

THE FOLLOWING IS >>RIGHT OFF THE ATI WEBSITE WHERE YOU DOWNLOAD THE CATALYST 2.1 Drivers <<<from:

Windows XP Capture Drivers
Driver Version - 6.13.10.6125 (Talking about wdm driver not display driver)
For VIVO and ALL-IN-WONDER products only
Posted June 13, 2002
WDM Capture drivers providing DirectShow capture support for VIVO and ALL-IN-WONDER configurations. These drivers should be used in conjunction with the Recommended Display Driver release listed above.

http://mirror.ati.com/support/driver...613106125.html
THIS WILL SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM>> REBOOT AFTER INSTALLING
THANK YOU AND GOODNIGHT>.

damm · Jul 12, 2002, 08:48 AM

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Originally posted by _-=[LoTeK]=-_
Since it seems a lot of you talk about the problem and are vague about solutions... why not just give him the friggin link to the file he needs to download and install... :-)
NOTE: THESE CAN BE USED WITH ANY CURRENT VERSION OF CATALYST DRIVER INCLUDING OMEGA/PLUTONIUMS

THE FOLLOWING IS >>RIGHT OFF THE ATI WEBSITE WHERE YOU DOWNLOAD THE CATALYST 2.1 Drivers <<<from:

Windows XP Capture Drivers
Driver Version - 6.13.10.6125 (Talking about wdm driver not display driver)
For VIVO and ALL-IN-WONDER products only
Posted June 13, 2002
WDM Capture drivers providing DirectShow capture support for VIVO and ALL-IN-WONDER configurations. These drivers should be used in conjunction with the Recommended Display Driver release listed above.

http://mirror.ati.com/support/driver...613106125.html
THIS WILL SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM>> REBOOT AFTER INSTALLING
THANK YOU AND GOODNIGHT>.

*sigh* For the last time, THAT IS what I installed, It still came up as Unknown. Thank you and goodnight.

sheesh you folks, you never listen do you?

~~Crash Override~~ · Jul 12, 2002, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by _-=[LoTeK]=-_
Since it seems a lot of you talk about the problem and are vague about solutions... why not just give him the friggin link to the file he needs to download and install... :-)
NOTE: THESE CAN BE USED WITH ANY CURRENT VERSION OF CATALYST DRIVER INCLUDING OMEGA/PLUTONIUMS

THE FOLLOWING IS >>RIGHT OFF THE ATI WEBSITE WHERE YOU DOWNLOAD THE CATALYST 2.1 Drivers <<<from:

Windows XP Capture Drivers
Driver Version - 6.13.10.6125 (Talking about wdm driver not display driver)
For VIVO and ALL-IN-WONDER products only
Posted June 13, 2002
WDM Capture drivers providing DirectShow capture support for VIVO and ALL-IN-WONDER configurations. These drivers should be used in conjunction with the Recommended Display Driver release listed above.

http://mirror.ati.com/support/driver...613106125.html
THIS WILL SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM>> REBOOT AFTER INSTALLING
THANK YOU AND GOODNIGHT>.

I am not letting this thread get out of hand folks.......drop the egos and be friendly

Why give him a link that takes a few seconds to find?

Anyone that cannot find the ATi Drivers on ATi's site has serious issues.

Edit-btw the thing of why give a link is not pointed at you Damm its a general statement

Personally I feel anyone that cant navigate ATis site since the new makeover doesnt need a computer

Jeff · Jul 12, 2002, 01:47 PM

I dont know what to tell you about your problem, sorry i cant help

I like to help

CRNeo · Jul 12, 2002, 05:32 PM

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*sigh* For the last time, THAT IS what I installed, It still came up as Unknown. Thank you and goodnight.

I think your problem is that you can't just install these drivers by running the setup program and expect XP to pick everything up....you'll need to decompress the files to a folder, and when it finds "unknown" you'll need to choose to manually install the driver... they go in Sound/Video controllers and all you need to do is browse to the correct .inf file and choose ATI WDM Rage Theater Video, and ATI WDM Specialized MVD Codec as the 2 drivers.

In my XPerience plug and play is jimmy jimmy jarg

This worked fine for me, hope this might shed some light on the matter.

Thank you and good morning

damm · Jul 13, 2002, 12:24 AM

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Originally posted by CRNeo
I think your problem is that you can't just install these drivers by running the setup program and expect XP to pick everything up....you'll need to decompress the files to a folder, and when it finds "unknown" you'll need to choose to manually install the driver... they go in Sound/Video controllers and all you need to do is browse to the correct .inf file and choose ATI WDM Rage Theater Video, and ATI WDM Specialized MVD Codec as the 2 drivers.

In my XPerience plug and play is jimmy jimmy jarg
This worked fine for me, hope this might shed some light on the matter.

Thank you and good morning

It's funny because i've done that in Windows 2K, i'm not an XP user so i cant speak for XP. But i can speak for me in 2k, i've had the WDM drivers installed because I was AWARE that i needed them for Catalyst 2.1 so being the intelligent user I think i am (every once and awhile we all do dumb things) I uninstalled Plutnoium rebooted it wanted to install a new driver, canceled it. Installed the Catalyst drivers, rebooted, installed the TV-WDM drivers rebooted and they still didnt pick up.

Forcing it there, pointing it certain places it just didnt pick it up. I'm unsure why it did that, maybe when I get stupid enough to install Catalyst again I may find out, but until then i'm happy with my Plut drivers, end of story.