Radeon Omega Drivers v2.4.78 for Win 2k/XP

Kgentatszu] · Sep 9, 2003, 02:39 AM

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Originally posted by Omegadrive
Don't think too much about that, look at your cards, the 32 support option is ONLY for 8500 and lower cards, R300 core based and above don't have that option because they are Dx9 parts, and Dx9 no loger supports 32bit Z-buffer in direct 3D, they now support up to 24Bit. At least, that's what it looks like since I have both a 9700 pro and a 8500 in another PC. Cheers!

what if i tell you i wasnt using an ATi card?? wouldnt it be weird if i can use your ATi Omega drivers with a Parhelia?????~LOL, just kidding~

***Omegadrive*** · Sep 9, 2003, 02:48 AM

RÃ»thÂ£ÃªÂ§Â§ · Sep 9, 2003, 02:49 AM

Stickin with Omega 3.6 for now, took a performance hit with this new version. Oh well, still great drivers

Dyre Straits · Sep 9, 2003, 02:50 AM

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Originally posted by BWX232
Yes, I did- along with running DC v2 in safe mode. I also manually checked the registry and c drive as I always do. I think I see the problem- you are not talking about the Omega's based on the 3.7's for the 9700pro - look at your screen shot- It's not v. 2.4.78 like mine.

It doesn't matter. I have the exact same options with Omega's CAT 3.7s as I do with this screen. I could post it if you want proof, but, I did just install them again to double check.

EDIT: Ohhhhh.....OK. So, your card won't show the option per the above post.

Kgentatszu] · Sep 9, 2003, 02:51 AM

anyway, omegadrive, in your opinion, which is the best driver released today, urghh, i mean omega ones.........for performance and quality

Nyana · Sep 9, 2003, 02:52 AM

hm ... how can I open these option *confused*

Kgentatszu] · Sep 9, 2003, 02:53 AM

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Originally posted by Dyre Straits
It doesn't matter. I have the exact same options with Omega's CAT 3.7s as I do with this screen. I could post it if you want proof, but, I did just install them again to double check.

~LOL, didnt the driver lord just mentioned that that option is for 8500 and lower????

Dyre Straits · Sep 9, 2003, 02:53 AM

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Originally posted by Omegadrive
Don't think too much about that, look at your cards, the 32 support option is ONLY for 8500 and lower cards, R300 core based and above don't have that option because they are Dx9 parts, and Dx9 no loger supports 32bit Z-buffer in direct 3D, they now support up to 24Bit. At least, that's what it looks like since I have both a 9700 pro and a 8500 in another PC. Cheers!

Sooo....what is the overall impact on no longer supporting 32 bit Z-Buffer in DX 9?

Dyre Straits · Sep 9, 2003, 02:55 AM

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Originally posted by Maxxypoos
~LOL, didnt the driver lord just mentioned that that option is for 8500 and lower????

I was busy posting....and not keeping up with the reading and other posting.

BBThumper · Sep 9, 2003, 03:07 AM

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Originally posted by Robert McClelland
I'm sticking with ati drivers Omega. Some reason your driver set lost me 200 points in 3dmark01se 9733 from 9997 ati drivers. So I'm going skip this set for now

...........it looks alot better but 3dmark says.............hehehehehe.........

BWX · Sep 9, 2003, 03:58 AM

I just tested these drivers out (9700p to 9800p Omegas) w/ jedi academy and Call of Duty demo's- they work great- look great, and they are very fast compared to regular 3.7's - on my rig. I even have fast writes on- just to test it out, and I get a small performance boost (again, may be different /w different mb/ cpu / ram / chipset combo)

stevec · Sep 9, 2003, 06:33 AM

Yeap, I'm having the same problem with my Dell 8100 + XP Pro SP1 with the Mobility 7500
- weird as the 2.4.74a installed fine

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Originally posted by lgoicalrealist
Not having any luck getting this to install on Mobility Radeon 7500 under WindowsXP. Error message is "This display driver is not compatible with the display adapter(s) installed on your system."

ATI Control panel has been uninstalled.

Any help/suggestions appreciated. Thanks!

-lr

zerodamage · Sep 9, 2003, 07:14 AM

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Originally posted by Robert McClelland
I'm sticking with ati drivers Omega. Some reason your driver set lost me 200 points in 3dmark01se 9733 from 9997 ati drivers. So I'm going skip this set for now

Yeah, you will lose points in those benchmarks. But why does that matter? About 2 months ago I came to the conclusion that those benchmarks are bs. How? I did a comparison between me and someone who had a score 300 points higher than mine. I beat him in EVERYTHING by quite a lot except for the PS 2.0 test and that is how he beat me. I do not know about you but I found that to be quite idiotic. SO I removed all of the programs and removed all of my compare URL's.

Iridium · Sep 9, 2003, 09:27 AM

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Originally posted by zerodamage
Yeah, you will lose points in those benchmarks. But why does that matter? About 2 months ago I came to the conclusion that those benchmarks are bs. How? I did a comparison between me and someone who had a score 300 points higher than mine. I beat him in EVERYTHING by quite a lot except for the PS 2.0 test and that is how he beat me. I do not know about you but I found that to be quite idiotic. SO I removed all of the programs and removed all of my compare URL's.

As far as I knew, the pixel shader does not affect the 3dmark2k3 scores. I ESC out of the benchmark after the nature scene completes, and before the cpu tests to save time between benchies and I get a benchmark score.

Nyana · Sep 9, 2003, 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by stevec
Yeap, I'm having the same problem with my Dell 8100 + XP Pro SP1 with the Mobility 7500
- weird as the 2.4.74a installed fine

Dell 8100 + 7500 work finest with 2.4.74 (without a) ... but just try to deactivate Z32 buffer ...

BWX · Sep 9, 2003, 09:43 AM

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Originally posted by zerodamage
Yeah, you will lose points in those benchmarks. But why does that matter? About 2 months ago I came to the conclusion that those benchmarks are bs. How? I did a comparison between me and someone who had a score 300 points higher than mine. I beat him in EVERYTHING by quite a lot except for the PS 2.0 test and that is how he beat me. I do not know about you but I found that to be quite idiotic. SO I removed all of the programs and removed all of my compare URL's.

ONLY the game tests count for the score- that's why. It generates the score on an algorithm of all the game test scores, I think some have more weight than others.

The reason why they are BS is not because of that- it's because the graphic card companies have, in the past, made specific optimizations for the particular test (3dmrk01 and 03)- I guess most of the optimizations are supposed to be gone now, but I personally doubt it. They are still a good reference, especially 3dmark 01 for cpu/ memory subsystem measurement. But you are right in the fact that you shouldn't throw away an awesome driver because you lose a few points in any synthetic benchmark. These are pretty good drivers.

***Omegadrive*** · Sep 9, 2003, 09:48 AM

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Originally posted by Dyre Straits
Sooo....what is the overall impact on no longer supporting 32 bit Z-Buffer in DX 9?

Well, 32bit z-buffer takes more bandwidth and memory from the card, plus there is almost no real advantages for a 32BZB since a 24BZB can do almost the same and with much less memory, 32BZB is mostly used for flight simulators and games that have a very long terrain view, 32BZB prevents far objects from having polygon pop-up issues and other graphical consequences. That was MS's decision for Dx9, so ATI had to comply...

stevec & lgoicalrealist: I'm looking into it to see what happened as the mobility support was moved from the previous set to this untouched, so it should basically be working, in the meantime, try installing the driver through the device manager, if that doesn't work, let me know...

Kgentatszu] · Sep 9, 2003, 11:06 AM

so, Omegadrive, does that mean 32BZB is actually better apart from the fact that it consumes more???

ScuMM · Sep 9, 2003, 01:03 PM

I have 9500np

is it any harm to use 9700>9800 hack?

zerodamage · Sep 9, 2003, 01:44 PM

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Originally posted by Iridium
As far as I knew, the pixel shader does not affect the 3dmark2k3 scores. I ESC out of the benchmark after the nature scene completes, and before the cpu tests to save time between benchies and I get a benchmark score.

Sorry, what I am referring to is the Nature scene which uses the DX9 instruction set. I have an issue with just ONE part of the test being the whole score of the benchmark. It is junk as far as I am concerned.

krazy1 · Sep 9, 2003, 02:11 PM

Personally I would like to pat Omega on the back for these. These drivers are great. I can finally Soft hack my 9500np to 9700 correctly!! Thanks Omega.. these drivers are great....

Iridium · Sep 9, 2003, 02:15 PM

/me...keeps gritting his teeth, I really would like to try these out. Still haven't had a chance yet, but tonight, oh yea, no stopping me now!!! Muwhahahah

Robert McClelland · Sep 9, 2003, 02:57 PM

So should I used 32W? on my 8500Le Omega? Would it be safe keep it on for games? I just installed drivers on top of ati 3.7 and got a score of 10,014 at 301mhz

I just used ati 3.7 as defult driver since everthing runing great

***Omegadrive*** · Sep 9, 2003, 03:10 PM

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Originally posted by Maxxypoos
so, Omegadrive, does that mean 32BZB is actually better apart from the fact that it consumes more???

Of course is better, but there are just a few games that support it, and those games will use 24bit if 32bit is not found. ATI removed it for newer cards because it saves bandwidth, and all games done recently have only 24BZB support (thanks in part by nvidia, since they NEVER added 32BZB support for their cards).
You can see the performance hit by running 3dmark2k1 with 32bit Z ON and then 24bit Z.

ScuMM, that's why I separated them, most 9500 cards won't work with the 9800 optimizations and will have dispaly errors.

Robert McClelland, to increase some speed on lower cards I'll be disabling 32BZB by default in the next release.

Labula · Sep 9, 2003, 08:16 PM

Am I the only one having the problem with star wars galaxies?

mainman · Sep 9, 2003, 08:29 PM

Thanks Omega, the driver are very good as always!!!

God Bless!

Shadow Lady · Sep 9, 2003, 11:38 PM

ok, so I have a 9500pro, should I use the 9500-->9700 or 9700-->9800 set? or better test both and see wich one works best? just wonderin

Nyana · Sep 10, 2003, 03:27 AM

@ Omega ... hm .. tested on Redeon Mobility 9000

>>> The 2.4.74 (no "a") were the best drivers you ever made !!!

Shadow Lady · Sep 10, 2003, 07:49 AM

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Originally posted by [GSR]Iceman
>>> The 2.4.74 (no "a") were the best drivers you ever made !!!

not for my card as it didnt even work correctly anyway ^^'

tumppu · Sep 10, 2003, 08:09 AM

as ree put it:

What mode should i select for the 9800SE? 9500 to 9700 or 9700 to 9800Pro? What is the difference?

Answer(s) appreciated...

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BWX Spinal Tapped Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,570 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	I just tested these drivers out (9700p to 9800p Omegas) w/ jedi academy and Call of Duty demo's- they work great- look great, and they are very fast compared to regular 3.7's - on my rig. I even have fast writes on- just to test it out, and I get a small performance boost (again, may be different /w different mb/ cpu / ram / chipset combo) __________________ One Big Ass Mistake America

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krazy1 Live from the Dungeon Join Date: May 2003 Location: Between the SubWoofers Posts: 1,395 Rep Power: 0	Personally I would like to pat Omega on the back for these. These drivers are great. I can finally Soft hack my 9500np to 9700 correctly!! Thanks Omega.. these drivers are great.... __________________

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Sep 9, 2003, 02:49 AM	#63
RÃ»thÂ£ÃªÂ§Â§ DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	Stickin with Omega 3.6 for now, took a performance hit with this new version. Oh well, still great drivers

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Kgentatszu] DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,802 Rep Power: 0	anyway, omegadrive, in your opinion, which is the best driver released today, urghh, i mean omega ones.........for performance and quality

Sep 9, 2003, 11:06 AM	#78
Kgentatszu] DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,802 Rep Power: 0	so, Omegadrive, does that mean 32BZB is actually better apart from the fact that it consumes more???

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ScuMM DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	I have 9500np is it any harm to use 9700>9800 hack?

Sep 9, 2003, 02:57 PM	#83
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Some Where in Ohio Posts: 6,344 Rep Power: 103 System Specs	So should I used 32W? on my 8500Le Omega? Would it be safe keep it on for games? I just installed drivers on top of ati 3.7 and got a score of 10,014 at 301mhz I just used ati 3.7 as defult driver since everthing runing great __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun"

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Labula DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 53 Rep Power: 0	Am I the only one having the problem with star wars galaxies?

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mainman Mr. Nobody Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: OmniPresent Nightwatcher Posts: 5,939 Rep Power: 53	Thanks Omega, the driver are very good as always!!! God Bless! __________________

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Shadow Lady Avril Fan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: somewhere in colombia, okok, bogotÃ¡ city :p Posts: 1,267 Rep Power: 0	ok, so I have a 9500pro, should I use the 9500-->9700 or 9700-->9800 set? or better test both and see wich one works best? just wonderin __________________ Oblivion ftw

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Nyana DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2003 Location: Kamen / Germany Posts: 161 Rep Power: 0	@ Omega ... hm .. tested on Redeon Mobility 9000 >>> The 2.4.74 (no "a") were the best drivers you ever made !!! __________________ [color=darkblue]Visit:[/color] RPG24 Network Community · powered by Lex Vitae & VANEN [color=gray]P4P800 Deluxe · P4 3.0 GHz HT · 4096MB Corsair XMS3200C2 @ 2-3-3-6 Radeon X1950 Pro · SB X-Fi Fatal1ty · WD Raptor-74GB & WD Raptor-150GB 500W Levicom · Syncmaster 215TW 21" wide TFT · System Air cooled by Zalman [/color]

Sep 10, 2003, 08:09 AM	#90
tumppu DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	please answer... as ree put it: What mode should i select for the 9800SE? 9500 to 9700 or 9700 to 9800Pro? What is the difference? Answer(s) appreciated...