Dell Inspiron 5100 and ATI Radeon 4700 Mobility Driver [W2K]?

jhabers · Jul 14, 2003, 09:08 PM

Anyone know a driver that will work with a Dell Inspiron 5100 and a 7500 Radeon? I cant seem to get a driver for windows 2000. Thanks very much

jon

jhabers · Jul 15, 2003, 11:49 AM

sorry, its the 7500, anyone?

jeuda · Jul 15, 2003, 09:51 PM

i used to make a driver someone.

patje · Jul 16, 2003, 07:21 AM

unforunately, There is a problem with the inspiron 5100 and win2k.
It just doesn't work. Problem is not the video card, its the BIOS (or the video card's BIOS).
I've read a lot of posts on the Dell forum consirning this problem.

the only thing you can try is this

before you install the driver
change to following registry settings to 0

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Session Manager\Memory Management\LargeSystemCache 1 (change it to 0)
DisablePagingExecutive 1 (also change it to 0)

reboot, install the win2k drivers, reboot and pray

Hope that helpes

jhabers · Jul 16, 2003, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by patje
unforunately, There is a problem with the inspiron 5100 and win2k.
It just doesn't work. Problem is not the video card, its the BIOS (or the video card's BIOS).
I've read a lot of posts on the Dell forum consirning this problem.

the only thing you can try is this

before you install the driver
change to following registry settings to 0

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Session Manager\Memory Management\LargeSystemCache 1 (change it to 0)
DisablePagingExecutive 1 (also change it to 0)

reboot, install the win2k drivers, reboot and pray

Hope that helpes

they are already set to 0

patje · Jul 17, 2003, 03:52 AM

Well, I hate to say this, but i guess there is no solution for this problem.

jhabers · Jul 17, 2003, 08:03 AM

thanks for the reply, do have any idea what could the actual problem be that would prevent a driver from working, i know its prbbly the bios, buut what about the bios is preventing it from running in win2k and not linux/winXp

patje · Jul 17, 2003, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jhabers
thanks for the reply, do have any idea what could the actual problem be that would prevent a driver from working, i know its prbbly the bios, buut what about the bios is preventing it from running in win2k and not linux/winXp

if only i knew, I keep asking myself that same question. Dell engineers probably now the answer but won't tell us. Dell's statement on this is the following: The model you specified is not Win2k compatible. therefor no win2k support is given.
The laptop is sold with WinXP so they only support that OS for that type of computer.
I know they kind of make you "have" to use XP even if you don't want to but on the other hand, I can not expect from Dell that they have to support every OS for every type of computer. No big OEM company does that btw.

jeuda · Jul 18, 2003, 04:53 AM

i thought of a way ... now trying.. .but having problems uploading the driver....

patje · Jul 18, 2003, 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jeuda
i thought of a way ... now trying.. .but having problems uploading the driver....

could you be more specific instead of making me curious?

if you don't wanna post this here yet send me a PM maybe I can help

jhabers · Jul 18, 2003, 08:08 AM

I will test it once jeuda gets it up on his site and post back, *fingers crossed*

Lsturbo91 · Jul 31, 2003, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jhabers
I will test it once jeuda gets it up on his site and post back, *fingers crossed*

any updates?

jhabers · Jul 31, 2003, 06:59 PM

No go, didnt work

jeuda · Aug 2, 2003, 09:47 PM

sigh..... it has something to do with the hardware setting. I tried and still failed.

jeuda · Aug 2, 2003, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by patje
could you be more specific instead of making me curious? if you don't wanna post this here yet send me a PM maybe I can help

Hi Patje, sorry not able to respond to you earlier. Been tied down by work.
I wun mind sharing what I have intended to do.

My idea is that Dell could have input some special instructions to the files.
So by using the same driver bundled for winxp to be used on win2k.
I simply changed from WINXP in the inf files to WIN2k. Well usually driver for win2k works for winxp.
That is my desperate move there.

If it is true that the BIOS has something to do with it.
Can't we get the bios of another dell 7500 which has win2k support to flash on the 5100.
But one thing that I am not sure is that what happens when the video bios is corrupted? We cannot just plug a pci card like a desktop. Maybe someone would like to share her/his experiences.

Anyone still working on something?

patje · Aug 4, 2003, 03:35 AM

Jueda,

You can try using the mobility modder to mod the Dell Xp driver.
I think it will work.

About getting a bios from another machine is imo to tricky and to dangerous. this could mess up your entire laptop so i don't think thats a good idea.

Greets

Patje

jeuda · Aug 4, 2003, 04:42 AM

That could be a mixed up here, patje. I am not the user here. Someone requested for my help. He should have tried your mobility modder before resorting to other means. The laptop black out once it goes into win2k.

jhabers · Aug 4, 2003, 08:37 AM

The modder did not work unfortunately

adam1972 · Aug 24, 2003, 08:00 PM

Why is it that I can install win 98 1st and second edition and a VGA controller is installed that works.. While win 2K is the one that will not install one no matter how hard you try? From my understanding this is what's causing our Dell insiron 5100 to error out during install of the mobility drivers. You have to have a VGA controller driver installed before it will install those drivers. I also notice that EVERY driver in the CD has a Win 2K version... Is there a way of installing a generic VGA controller that will allow the Mobility driver to fully install??

patje · Aug 25, 2003, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by adam1972

Why is it that I can install win 98 1st and second edition and a VGA controller is installed that works.. While win 2K is the one that will not install one no matter how hard you try? From my understanding this is what's causing our Dell insiron 5100 to error out during install of the mobility drivers. You have to have a VGA controller driver installed before it will install those drivers. I also notice that EVERY driver in the CD has a Win 2K version... Is there a way of installing a generic VGA controller that will allow the Mobility driver to fully install??

Personally, i don't think that will do the trick. As far as i know, Dell has to solve this by fixing the BIOS, i guess they have there reasons not to, (except i can't think of any)
I've read a lot of threads about this and no one was able to fix this in any way.

That would not take away the fact that you should be able to install a generic driver. Maybe if i find some time i'll try to do this.

greets

jeuda · Aug 26, 2003, 07:52 PM

IMO, if you are able to get general VGA controller to install fully. You still wun get the full capabilites of the mobility.

Akule50 · Sep 2, 2003, 10:59 PM

Just thought I’d mention that a Dell 5150 user, that had the same problem with Win2k, has posted a solution in the Inspiron Video forum... ”click here”.

The 7th post in that thread has another user (Spazzie) confirming that the solution also works for his 5100/Radeon 7500 and Win2k, using the A22 BIOS.

Aloha,
Rod

patje · Sep 3, 2003, 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Akule50
Just thought I’d mention that a Dell 5150 user, that had the same problem with Win2k, has posted a solution in the Inspiron Video forum... ”click here”.

The 7th post in that thread has another user (Spazzie) confirming that the solution also works for his 5100/Radeon 7500 and Win2k, using the A22 BIOS.

Aloha,
Rod

Thanks so much for the feedback Rod !!!!!

Like I said, this problem could only be resolved if Dell showed up with a new bios that fixes the problem, I'm glad they finally did!

Jul 14, 2003, 09:08 PM	#1
jhabers DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Dell Inspiron 5100 and ATI Radeon 7500 Mobility Driver [W2K]? Anyone know a driver that will work with a Dell Inspiron 5100 and a 7500 Radeon? I cant seem to get a driver for windows 2000. Thanks very much jon Last edited by jhabers; Jul 15, 2003 at 11:48 AM.

Jul 15, 2003, 09:51 PM	#3
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Jul 16, 2003, 07:21 AM	#4
patje Former Mobility Modman Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Belgium / Antwerp Posts: 1,476 Rep Power: 51	unforunately, There is a problem with the inspiron 5100 and win2k. It just doesn't work. Problem is not the video card, its the BIOS (or the video card's BIOS). I've read a lot of posts on the Dell forum consirning this problem. the only thing you can try is this before you install the driver change to following registry settings to 0 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Session Manager\Memory Management\LargeSystemCache 1 (change it to 0) DisablePagingExecutive 1 (also change it to 0) reboot, install the win2k drivers, reboot and pray Hope that helpes __________________

Jul 17, 2003, 03:52 AM	#6
patje Former Mobility Modman Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Belgium / Antwerp Posts: 1,476 Rep Power: 51	Well, I hate to say this, but i guess there is no solution for this problem. __________________

Jul 18, 2003, 04:53 AM	#9
jeuda DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 169 Rep Power: 0	i thought of a way ... now trying.. .but having problems uploading the driver.... __________________ [color=gray] [color=sienna]:: A64 3000 \| Abit KV8 Pro \| 2x512 PC3200 [/color] [color=sienna]:: Galaxy N6600GT DDVI \| Audigy 2 ZS \| [/color][color=sienna]WD-Raptor 36GB[/color] [/color]

Jul 15, 2003, 11:49 AM	#2
jhabers DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	sorry, its the 7500, anyone?

Jul 17, 2003, 08:03 AM	#7
jhabers DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	thanks for the reply, do have any idea what could the actual problem be that would prevent a driver from working, i know its prbbly the bios, buut what about the bios is preventing it from running in win2k and not linux/winXp

Jul 18, 2003, 08:08 AM	#11
jhabers DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	I will test it once jeuda gets it up on his site and post back, fingers crossed

Jul 31, 2003, 06:59 PM	#13
jhabers DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	No go, didnt work

Aug 2, 2003, 09:47 PM	#14
jeuda DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 169 Rep Power: 0	sigh..... it has something to do with the hardware setting. I tried and still failed. __________________ [color=gray] [color=sienna]:: A64 3000 \| Abit KV8 Pro \| 2x512 PC3200 [/color] [color=sienna]:: Galaxy N6600GT DDVI \| Audigy 2 ZS \| [/color][color=sienna]WD-Raptor 36GB[/color] [/color]

Aug 4, 2003, 03:35 AM	#16
patje Former Mobility Modman Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Belgium / Antwerp Posts: 1,476 Rep Power: 51	Jueda, You can try using the mobility modder to mod the Dell Xp driver. I think it will work. About getting a bios from another machine is imo to tricky and to dangerous. this could mess up your entire laptop so i don't think thats a good idea. Greets Patje __________________

Aug 4, 2003, 04:42 AM	#17
jeuda DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 169 Rep Power: 0	That could be a mixed up here, patje. I am not the user here. Someone requested for my help. He should have tried your mobility modder before resorting to other means. The laptop black out once it goes into win2k. __________________ [color=gray] [color=sienna]:: A64 3000 \| Abit KV8 Pro \| 2x512 PC3200 [/color] [color=sienna]:: Galaxy N6600GT DDVI \| Audigy 2 ZS \| [/color][color=sienna]WD-Raptor 36GB[/color] [/color]

Aug 4, 2003, 08:37 AM	#18
jhabers DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	The modder did not work unfortunately

Aug 24, 2003, 08:00 PM	#19
adam1972 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Dell Inspiron 5100 and ATI Radeon 4700 Mobility Driver [W2K]? Why is it that I can install win 98 1st and second edition and a VGA controller is installed that works.. While win 2K is the one that will not install one no matter how hard you try? From my understanding this is what's causing our Dell insiron 5100 to error out during install of the mobility drivers. You have to have a VGA controller driver installed before it will install those drivers. I also notice that EVERY driver in the CD has a Win 2K version... Is there a way of installing a generic VGA controller that will allow the Mobility driver to fully install??

Aug 26, 2003, 07:52 PM	#21
jeuda DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 169 Rep Power: 0	IMO, if you are able to get general VGA controller to install fully. You still wun get the full capabilites of the mobility. __________________ [color=gray] [color=sienna]:: A64 3000 \| Abit KV8 Pro \| 2x512 PC3200 [/color] [color=sienna]:: Galaxy N6600GT DDVI \| Audigy 2 ZS \| [/color][color=sienna]WD-Raptor 36GB[/color] [/color]

Sep 2, 2003, 10:59 PM	#22
Akule50 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Oahu, HI Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	Just thought I’d mention that a Dell 5150 user, that had the same problem with Win2k, has posted a solution in the Inspiron Video forum... ”click here”. The 7th post in that thread has another user (Spazzie) confirming that the solution also works for his 5100/Radeon 7500 and Win2k, using the A22 BIOS. Aloha, Rod Last edited by Akule50; Sep 2, 2003 at 11:05 PM.