Radeon Omega Drivers 2.4.43 for Win2k/XP

~~wk357mag~~ · May 18, 2003, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Omegadrive
Stange...this is a first
Setup Factory you say?
Why do you have to download it? The installer is self contained, no need for an external application...

Yeah it is strange, This is a file type that windows doesnt reckonize, cant open with winrar or zip. I did DL setup factory, but even this wont open that file so it must be corrupt. Will try again later

Striper · May 18, 2003, 10:22 AM

STILL THE SAME PROBLEM!!!!!

after a few (de)-(re)-install tries i gave it up.

used driver cleaner and adregcln.
tried installing a few times without using driver cleaner and adregcln and with using it.

tried the new omega drivers and the originally cat 3.4.

THE SAME

after the first manual reebot of my system the screen resolution always set´s back to 640x480 (sorry in my other post i wrote 800x600).

when i switch back to old omegas or cat 3.2 everything is fine

maybe this helps you guys:

after a complete deinstall of the drivers xp boots up and asks for OMEGA 2407a ??????
but under hardware monitor the card is shown as vga-satandard adapter????

are the 2407a not fully deinstalled??

what can i do

my system:
WINXP -> sp1 all updates
ATI RADEON 9100 128MB
DELL FP1800 with DVI

PLZ help!!

[UPDATE]
the 9100 race driver car texture bug still isn´t fixed

Striper

ztride · May 18, 2003, 12:14 PM

Works great on newer 9100-9800 cards, and seeming dropped support for all the cards below... just a thought.

friedmonky · May 18, 2003, 01:38 PM

My performance actually decreased with the Omega's.
Quake 3 timedemo 1: with Omega's 3.4 = 318fps
with Official 3.4 = 342fps
Using an ATI Radeon 9700 Pro.

Vengeance · May 18, 2003, 02:18 PM

Can someone tell me if I should use the regular 9700/9500 drivers,
or should I use the hacked ones for my 9500 Pro that I flashed my bios on.
so its unlocked for overclocking?
Right now I'm useing the regular ones and they work fine,
But would it work better with the hacked ones?

Chaos · May 18, 2003, 02:22 PM

Vengance if you have a 9500 Pro then you will gain by using the new Omega drivers and chosing the hacked install option.

Zimbot · May 18, 2003, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Zimbot, the drivers don't install outright, you have to run the
installer (which is just an extractor) and the info about them +
instructions are showed, no drivers are installed unless you choose to
do so, go ahead and try it.

And yes, you can use any other utiltiy
for those settings and hotkeys, I just warn of other settings that work
deep inside the card and avaible only through tweakers.

Omegadrive,

Much thanks for the reply about other tweakers. I always keep track of installs/changes with
Inctrl5 (from PC Magazine; used to be free, now its pay), so making sure
the Rage3D tweaks don't interfere with yours isn't a problem here. Glad
to know they can be run simultaneously (although, as you say, for most
people its not recommended).

But...

Proceeding through the install a bit, it does appear to be an extractor, as you say.
But subsequent screens (haven't gone to the end yet) do an initial
set up of a few tweaks/additional utilities/etc.. So, the million dollar
question: can you run the installer to the end w/o actually installing
the drivers and just have the files in the package remain extracted to the
specified directory? I really want to manually check out what is being installed
before it actually happens and/or compare it with the official ATI 3.4 Cats.

Zim

Bane69 · May 18, 2003, 02:56 PM

Finally got the New Omega drivers to work(or i think so)....I have the "empty error box problem" mentioned earlier. I did manual installation and Got them to work. So anyway, I just want to ask about the Artifact Tester. Does it really work? so can i rely on it if it says "0 artifacts found"?.....

BTW Great Drivers! Clearly better Quality than in normal Catalyst drivers

***Omegadrive*** · May 18, 2003, 03:40 PM

Striper, it seems the old drivers are not uninstalled properly, that's why you get the "vga adpater" in the device manager, but you don't have to do all that just to install these, if you already have the 2.4.07a driver installed, just run setup and these will install above previous ones, easy.

Zimbot, yes, you can run it till the end, those questions are just to prepare the drivers for installation and tell the extractor what exactly to install, based on the user settings, and at the end, after you press finish, it will ask if you want to install the drivers at that moment, just say no and done.

Bane69, I use it to test my OC, but when it starts to show artifacts, downclock the memory by at least two notches since the utiltiy is just for reference and 2d artifacts soemtime show after 3d artifacts.

As for the red X problems, I'll look into it since it doesn't happen here (tested it on a 9700 Pro and a 8500 card), it seems the ATI installer is looking for some files and doesn't find them, but it just pop-ups red X empty squares, but don't worry, the driver should work properly even after the errors since all file are there.

fibonaccov · May 18, 2003, 04:14 PM

argh - read 7 pages of this thread and did not find my answer.

Very simple - should/Can I install the 9800-9800 hacked driver (Omega's 2.4.43) with my 9700 PRO card?

I've to admit it is a bit confusing (well maybe not) but the 2 driver type choices during the install does no mention PRO at all so I was left to choose the non-hacked one for my 9700 Pro (just to make sure) .

I thought we were already gaining some more performance with the cat 3.4 set, therefore does installing the hacked-driver here even gain _more_ performance?

9700 Pro users, did you install the hacked or non-hacked Omega 2.4.43 driver?

Other than that, it is ROCK solid (with non-hacked at least) - DoD 1.0 finally running smooth and not crashing - great IQ as usuall.

Thanks for any input on my previous/above question,

--fibo

~~wk357mag~~ · May 18, 2003, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fibonaccov
Very simple - should/Can I install the 9800-9800 hacked driver (Omega's 2.4.43) with my 9700 PRO card?
--fibo

YES, you can install it, but there is noway of knowing if your vidcard will benefit from it till you try. If you get graphical errors, than you will have to uninstall it and than go back to the other driver.

LaserLight · May 18, 2003, 04:33 PM

What will these drivers do to my 9500PRO...
as for my knowledge they are suppose to open the 8 pipelines on a 9500non-pro, but i have a 9500PRO, that uses 8 pipes...
So what will i gain ?
And what will it do to my system...

Thanks,

Idan.

~~BMG_Cya=-~~ · May 18, 2003, 05:28 PM

In answer to fibonaccov.

I have a Radeon 9700 Pro and installed the hacked 9700--->9800 driver.
Overall, in my main D3D games, (F12002, Rallisport) I have seen a slight increase in FPS. On average a 3-8 FPS increase.
The IQ in my D3D games is noticeably better. I run with 4X Aniso and 4X AA as a general rule.
Resolutions 1074 x 768, 1280 x 960, depending on the game. Personally, I highly recommend these drivers for D3D gaming.

3DMark03 with these drivers, gave me a 350 point increase. The test was run at the default settings of 1074 x 768

The only problems/minor bugs I have noticed is that even though it says my card is a 9800 in both 3DMark03 and in Sandra 2003,
my CP says Smoothvision II, instead of Smoothvision 2.1.

I can't comment on OpenGL performance, as I have yet to test these drivers on Q3A, (which I don't even have installed or play anymore),
or R.T.C.W. If the Omega 2.4.43's are anything like the last set, 2.4.07a, then I'm sure they work great overall for most OpenGL apps.

Also, I never even tried the ATI Catalyst 3.4's. Having become a devout follower of Omega's work. He's done me right twice in a row.

Install the damn drivers is what I say.

HTH.

fibonaccov · May 18, 2003, 05:47 PM

Thanks BMG_Cya=,

Yes, I've installed them (but the non-hacked) - now tempted to reinstall and get the hacked version

My question was also to find out what would the gain be since cat 3.4 has also provided big time performance gain (as expected in 3.3), so was wondering if the softmod for 9800 would also provide even more gain on top? what does the 9800 softmod give which a 9700 pro does not? (i read this in the past but now i have forgot

)

Am gonna try and report,

--fibo

BuddMan · May 18, 2003, 09:55 PM

How do we uninstall the overclocker without taking out the drivers and the rest of the utilities?

BBThumper · May 18, 2003, 11:05 PM

......Thks omega for the work you do for us for free. Only problem I found is screen flickers alot when gaming but I think its the moniter drivers.
......Buddman , if you look on page 1 or 2 of this thread you will find your answer........

mrdarkside2k3 · May 19, 2003, 12:09 AM

It seems when going to the Omega 3.4's I love TV out along the way. Everything else works perfect. Any Clues on how to fix the TV Out? I am going through withdrawls.

Thanks

Mrdarkside

wolfmanstout · May 19, 2003, 12:56 AM

Will the hacked driver work with a 9500 PRO? The driver installation text is somewhat ambiguous: it says 9500 but it doesn't specify pro, non-pro, or both. I tried it, and it seems to have worked.....but it says my radeon 9500 pro is a 9800 (as opposed to 9700). Also note that the drivers say 9500/9700 instead of 9500 pro/9700 pro. I guess my real question is: am I screwing my video card by doing this?

Thanks a lot,
wolfmanstout

P.S. Will the rad clocker utility work on a 9500 PRO?

BuddMan · May 19, 2003, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scoop
I had the same issue mate, I had to manually remove the radclock folder from the omega drivers bit in Program files then download radclock 5.51 from the website and install it in its own directory as opposed to the omega one. It works a treat after every boot up i.e no reset.

Hope this helps

Regards
Scoop

Oh, ok, I must have skipped this post. I will give it a try.

EDIT: Where did you find this version for Radclock. I cannot find it. I went to their site and downloaded the latest. But after taking out the one in Omega's and installing the new one, it does the same thing....

Another EDIT: Ok. I got it to work. Thing is the first time I installed it into Omega's folder under Program Files, and it would not stick. Took it out and reinstalled it again under the default install folder, now it works like a charm. Dunno?

Auldian · May 19, 2003, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Omegadrive
For people having problems with slow desktop and no OGL support after the installation: re-install them. The AGP is not setting up correctly and is sometimes disabled by Windows, is not a driver problem, is a Windows problem, I have seen it many times with different driver versions and even with nvidia cards, so is not driver specific, and the only solution so far is to re-install Dx9 and then the video drivers once or two times until windows recognizes the AGP.

I had to re-install the drivers 3 times but it finally took. I can play EverQuest with these and it seems much better than the 3.1 Catalysts I'd been using.
Thanks for effort and the support.

izniegoed · May 19, 2003, 09:18 AM

Hi,

I recently upgraded to a Saphire 9500PRO card. So decided to try the new omega's on them (after having good experience with them on my old radeon vivo) At first sight things go ok. But when the omega installer starts up the ATI setup program the ATI setup chokes and dies horribly

I get a load of Alerts without text so I really can't tell what's really wrong? Redownloaded the package from a number of sites to make sure I did not have a corrupt file. No change

The standard catalyst 3.4's install without a glitch (and run fine).

System: XP SP1 (with latest fixes), Mainboard A7V333 (no hyperions installed)

Tried to install with all the extra goodies, also without. Did the usual uninstall etc. things (hmm only MMC i had still installed.. I'll try that when I get back home)

Any ideas?

Chaos · May 19, 2003, 09:21 AM

I have a Sapphire 9500 Pro and these drivers work flawlessly for me.

I am sorta starting to wonder about these problems. If you follow the steps offered it should be almost a no brainer

1: Uninstall ATi Drivers, Control Panel, MMC

2: Use Drivercleaner to remove traces of old ATi files

3: Reboot

4: Install latest Omega drivers, either Hacked ( i recommend these for 9500 line ) or normal

5: Choose Continue Anyway when MS wines about unsigned drivers

6: Reboot

BBThumper · May 19, 2003, 09:34 AM

......Ummmmmmm, don't ya mean:

1. Uninstall Control panel, leave driver alone

(edit)- Point taken chaos

Chaos · May 19, 2003, 09:54 AM

Omega says you can install over previous drivers, but I prefer to remove the old before the new go in

Zimbot · May 19, 2003, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Omegadrive
Zimbot, yes, you can run it till the end, those questions are just to prepare the drivers for installation and tell the extractor what exactly to install, based on the user settings, and at the end, after you press finish, it will ask if you want to install the drivers at that moment, just say no and done.

Omegadrive,

Exxxxxcelllennnnttttttt!

(the smilie may not be appr