CATALYST 3.4 Rating

*CATALYST maker* · May 15, 2003, 11:05 PM

Can you give me an indication from 1-10 how you rate the drivers? 1 being the lowest 10 being the highest?

ViRuS2k · May 15, 2003, 11:08 PM

i rate the drivers 1-10 simply becuse they kill GTA VC

for performance though i rate it wayyyyyy higher :8-10

No_Style · May 15, 2003, 11:16 PM

Well, I personally haven't gone through and benched or tried to see if any of the fixes actually worked, but reading through your Driver Documentation. I'm just in awe as to how many issues the CATALYST Driver Team fixed or addressed and to find that performance has been increased throughout all boards is just splendid. I've been meaning to ask, what's the difference between ATI's approach of increasing 3DMark03 scores and Nvidia's method (cheat)?

csl1010 · May 15, 2003, 11:16 PM

Well what i still hoping is not performance boost (a numberical game of 3DMarks) but increasing the compatibility & stability overall. Rather than a KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED ati3d2ag.dll

For details please warp to here: http://www.driverheaven.net/showthre...163#post133163

~~Crash Override~~ · May 15, 2003, 11:23 PM

only issues ive been having for a while deal with the dvd player stuttering while on battery power

i just grabbed regular powerdvd though and it doesnt stutter at all

HardWired · May 15, 2003, 11:33 PM

I had no real problems with the 3.2's, and after a couple of hours with these, they seem to be just as stable. 3DMarks are about the same. Anything but a step backwards is a good thing. I'll give them a 9.

Gotta keep you working...

Vengeance · May 15, 2003, 11:39 PM

Well not that I'm complaining. But I did vote on the 5

Because I seem to have lost about 200 3DMarks in 3DMark2001

But other than that they seem fine so far

I do have one question for you CM if you have the time to reply, I have the 9500Pro That I have Flashed the bios on. So now it says its a 9700 PRo

But as we all know its not

So when I installed the new 3.4's I'm sure it loaded drivers for the 9700 Pro, Is there a difference in the 9700/9500 drivers? Should I do anything differently?
Thanks in advance.

HardWired · May 15, 2003, 11:40 PM

Oh yes...and I do like the enhanced color tab.

Anything else new on the tabs that I'm missing??

Below 30 · May 15, 2003, 11:40 PM

[COLOR=cyan]Number 6

The drivers, value wise, only give us HDTV/DVI users half the use of the entire video card. As the next generation display panels lack the screen manipulation functions as CRT/analog TV. I have 9700pro, so game performance wise, still no problems I notice with games I play.[/COLOR]

dbcalo · May 15, 2003, 11:43 PM

i gave the new drivers an 8 because they made things more stable but didn't do a whole lot more for me.

*CATALYST maker* · May 15, 2003, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vengeance
Well not that I'm complaining. But I did vote on the 5 Because I seem to have lost about 200 3DMarks in 3DMark2001
But other than that they seem fine so far

I do have one question for you CM if you have the time to reply, I have the 9500Pro That I have Flashed the bios on. So now it says its a 9700 PRo But as we all know its not
So when I installed the new 3.4's I'm sure it loaded drivers for the 9700 Pro, Is there a difference in the 9700/9500 drivers? Should I do anything differently?
Thanks in advance.

You dont honestly think I am going to answer a question about flashing your BIOS, voiding your warranty, and making your card something its not do you?

Genius · May 15, 2003, 11:51 PM

I gave them a 6. I based it on overall value as an upgrade from the 3.2's. They're no doubt fine drivers but.... see previous rant.

Vengeance · May 15, 2003, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CATALYST maker
You dont honestly think I am going to answer a question about flashing your BIOS, voiding your warranty, and making your card something its not do you?

Well I did hope you could answer a simple question,

There was no need to be that way man! And I didnt ask about flashing my Bios.
I know exactly what I did to my card and warranty. I'm not wanting you to say that flashing your bios is right or wrong!
Just a simple yes the bios are diffrent or no there not!

*CATALYST maker* · May 15, 2003, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vengeance
Well I did hope you could answer a simple question,

There was no need to be that way man! And I didnt ask about flashing my Bios.
I know exactly what I did to my card and warranty. I'm not wanting you to say that flashing your bios is right or wrong!
Just a simple yes the bios are diffrent or no there not!

I wasnt being mean or anything, just playing around. In regards to your question the official response from this ATI representative is "no comment"

Vengeance · May 16, 2003, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CATALYST maker
I wasnt being mean or anything, just playing around. In regards to your question the official response from this ATI representative is "no comment"

Fair enough

mike83wvu · May 16, 2003, 12:39 AM

Noticeable improvement for me over the 3.2's. Visual quality seems better in the few games I ran { Black Hawk Down & High Heat 2004}. Ran the new & the old 3dMark , scores up about 7% on 2003 & down like amount in 2001. "9"

A7N8X Deluxe Rev 2.0 Bios 1003
XP2100”B” @ 2358 {205x11.5}
Sapphire 9700 Pro Cat 3.4
Corsair 3200 512mb 6-2-2-2
100GB WD 8mb cache
Antec 480 True
Aopen 16x Slot dvd
Yamaha 44x Writer
Alpha 8045 33c/39c
Thermaltake 5000a
NEC 19” Multisync FE991sb
XP Pro

edperks · May 16, 2003, 12:51 AM

After a long night of formating my hard drive and geting these new drivers installed i have a 1300 point increase in 3dmark2001se, which I would have to say that alot of those points were due to the new OS, but after benchmarking my machine I found that 2.4 gave me about 11% increase in 3dmark, they also seemed to run better in Half Life and Quake 3.

Thanks

Ed

grog · May 16, 2003, 12:52 AM

Well I gave the CAT 3.4 a full 9.
I would have given the CAT 3.4 a 10 but I have one problem with my 8500DV card.
The MMC/TV would consume 100% of the CPU with the 1394 enabled on the 8500DV card.
Changing the jumpers on the 8500DV card to disable the 1394 fixed my problem. I did lose my cam but to be honest I am not sure if this is really a ATI driver issue or not. Yes it worked with CAT 3.2 but then again this looks like a timing window problem. Change something in the code might break it on my motherboard.

What I am saying is the changes to CAT 3.4 are worth losing my 1394 over. I can always put my pyro 1394 card back in for 1394. The new MMC is also very cool with the new remote control features.

I am watching a DVD video of the Moody Blues right now and it is working just like I like it.

Here is my setup, you will love this.
I have the 8500DV connected to a Sony Trinitron PVM-2030 - 21' Studio Monitor using S-VIDEO.
I also have the composite from the 8500DV going to my wife's computer. She also has a ATI AIW card.

I pop in the DVD and minimize it. I see the movie on my external TV and my wife across the room is watching the same DVD on her computer screen.

Did you know you could use S-VIDEO and composite video at the same time. It works great!

Yes, CAT 3.4 gets a 9 and if my 1394 was still functional I would have given it a 10.

Almost forgot:

Fixed with CAT 3.4:
1.) SPEC Viewperf 7.0 no longer has a problem running ugs-01.
2.) Comanche 4 Benchmark is now able to run the offical test.

Greg

DanielPt · May 16, 2003, 01:03 AM

i gave them a 9

HL ESC bug fixed... 100 fps stable .. way to go :P heheh

Alpha · May 16, 2003, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DanielPt
i gave them a 9

HL ESC bug fixed... 100 fps stable .. way to go :P heheh

Did you previously have a problem with FPS dropping in HL and now it's fixed?

I'm interested in knowing what you changed (besides installing 3.4) that led to fixing your problems.

Datagg · May 16, 2003, 01:22 AM

Well i was one initially who had troubles at first. When i first installed them, i had some serious jaggedness going on, and the comp ran slow, and everyhing would like load up slugglish and all. Someone told me to do the performance tab down yet this wasnt it. Also when loading up Hl it said your card does not support open GL. i just about freaked out. Well anyways, I went thru the procedure to uninstal then instal again. All looked better, and the control panel now had open gl and d3d in it, i didnt notice before that they were not there. HL loaded up, seemd great, yet still a bit jaggy. Figured it improved since reinstal so i did it again. All is working great now..i mean real sweet.. The color scheme is terrific, and the in game vibrance seeems to be improved vastly. The only weird thing is that in 2001 bence I lost 679 points, and oddly enough in 2003 gained 1200. All in all I am extremely pleased with this set and give kudos to the ATI team for getting out a a set that im giving a 9

Thank guys..your the best...

LONG LIVE ATI

laurarlo · May 16, 2003, 01:33 AM

I definetly give it a 9. i picked up about 500 points in 3d mark 01 , and i finally broke 5000 in 3dmark 03, some of you may not agree with me, but this is my opinion, great job ATI.
Anyone know how i can publish my 3DMark 01 SE Score, it will not let me publish anymore for some reason, if i had to many published i did delete most of em, except 2. Any help will be appreciated.

mrdarkside2k3 · May 16, 2003, 02:36 AM

I gave them a 9......no benchmarks yet, but picture vibrance and clarity seems better to me. But one thing....is there a way yet to get the DivX acceleration on Radeon 9000 Pro? I can accelerate that Real Media crap.....why can't I accelerate Divx. Please someone help. I will Benchmark later on in Medal of Honor

hellgate · May 16, 2003, 02:41 AM

I installed Cat 3.4 driver and installed MMC 8.5 also.

Catalyst driver is very good. But MMC has some bug about Overlay (I guess. sigh).

In Cat control panel, go to overlay menu and click that. I use dual monitor and TV out, but overlay setting is disable.(But it is not serious. I don't care that.)

After MMC 8.5 installed ( DAO install -> DVD Decoder install -> MMC 8.5 install )
I excuted several AVI files for testing.

When I executed all kind of avi files ( DIVX, XVID, MPEG4, 3IVX ). It appeared too.

When MMC starting, Monitor is black-out and turn it on instantly.

Catalysts Maker, can you check it is bug or not, please?

***Veridian3*** · May 16, 2003, 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ViRuS2k
i rate the drivers 1-10 simply becuse they kill GTA VC

for performance though i rate it wayyyyyy higher :8-10

ViRuS2k ,

What exactly is the issue your experienceing with GTA:VC, I've not played it in depth but i've not niticed any issues and there are posts on various forums saying it runs great with these drivers...

Stu

C}{$ · May 16, 2003, 03:15 AM

I gave them a six.

GTA VC runs fine, BF1942 won't run at all, and.... TOCA Race Driver won't run at all.

Thanks very much for breaking my games :/ /me returns to the "leaked 3.3's" as they had no problems whatsoever.

Alpha · May 16, 2003, 03:28 AM

I think the problems in GTA:VC when upgrading to Cat3.4 can be solved by..
Deleting "My Documents\GTA Vice City User Files\gta_vc.set"

~~JAV~~ · May 16, 2003, 03:53 AM

For me: they're a ton better than the 3.1's, IQ is better than the 3.2's but, they're slower than the Omega 3.2a w/the same IQ: I've lost 2-7FPS w/no gain in IQ over the Omega. Toca & BF1942 are fine for me.

I take it these are for DX9 cards based on the improvements those users are reporting vs the non-DX9 card users 'no FPS gain, but better IQ'? I think it's great that ATI optimizes for speed for the 'enthusiast' cards but, the mainstream card buyers get ???

I realize DX9 is out, but there aren't any DX9 games to benefit: there are a ton of DX8 games & cards tho'. How 'bout some better FPS (w/the IQ increase) for DX8 cards to play todays DX8 based games?

.02,

webskater1 · May 16, 2003, 04:44 AM

I gave them a 1, becouse I have no perfomance boost anywhere with my Radeon 9000 Pro!

Thats not fair, You are optimizing the Catalyst drivers only for the 9500, 9700 and 9800!!

There are many people with older Radeons, we bought the radeons and we want better optimiziation too!

Thats really not fair!

RingoBIA · May 16, 2003, 05:48 AM

I gave them a 3

Reason: They lowered my FPS in Raven Shield even further below playability! Before I had below 20FPS all the time, now I got below 10!!! It usually stayed on 6FPS when I tried them yesterday! Unplayable!

Well, It's not so much your fault as it is the stupid dev heads over at UBI... They've messed up all the code from the UT engine it seems. I can play all other games based on that engine very fluid on max settings.

Cred to you for keeping us updated on progress and releases! (Something you might wanna teach UBI?)

1.4GHz Athlon
512MB
Radeon 9700pro

May 15, 2003, 11:05 PM	#1
CATALYST maker ATI driver guru Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: ATI, Canada Posts: 763 Rep Power: 47	CATALYST 3.4 Rating Can you give me an indication from 1-10 how you rate the drivers? 1 being the lowest 10 being the highest?

May 15, 2003, 11:16 PM	#3
No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,049 Rep Power: 0	A nice 8 for the 3.4s Well, I personally haven't gone through and benched or tried to see if any of the fixes actually worked, but reading through your Driver Documentation. I'm just in awe as to how many issues the CATALYST Driver Team fixed or addressed and to find that performance has been increased throughout all boards is just splendid. I've been meaning to ask, what's the difference between ATI's approach of increasing 3DMark03 scores and Nvidia's method (cheat)? __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here

May 15, 2003, 11:39 PM	#7
Vengeance DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fort Worth TX Posts: 643 Rep Power: 0	Well not that I'm complaining. But I did vote on the 5 Because I seem to have lost about 200 3DMarks in 3DMark2001 But other than that they seem fine so far I do have one question for you CM if you have the time to reply, I have the 9500Pro That I have Flashed the bios on. So now it says its a 9700 PRo But as we all know its not So when I installed the new 3.4's I'm sure it loaded drivers for the 9700 Pro, Is there a difference in the 9700/9500 drivers? Should I do anything differently? Thanks in advance. __________________ [color=red]Rage3D Super Moderator[/color] [color=red]BFG 6800 GT [/color]

May 15, 2003, 11:40 PM	#9
Below 30 Video Games Fo Life Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Region of Peel, Ontario, Canada Posts: 112 Rep Power: 0	[COLOR=cyan]Number 6 The drivers, value wise, only give us HDTV/DVI users half the use of the entire video card. As the next generation display panels lack the screen manipulation functions as CRT/analog TV. I have 9700pro, so game performance wise, still no problems I notice with games I play.[/COLOR] __________________ [color=yellow][color=#ff1493]When Skills Ruled [/color][/color]

May 15, 2003, 11:43 PM	#10
dbcalo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	i gave the new drivers an 8 because they made things more stable but didn't do a whole lot more for me. __________________ Antec SX835II Case w/ 4 fans \|\|Soltek SL-75FRN2-RL nforce 2 ultra 400 \|\| AMD XP 2500+ @ 2.2Ghz \|\| 2x512mb Geil PC3200 dual channel \|\| Sapphire Radeon 9600 pro 128mb @ 500/351 and Catalyst 4.12B \|\| SB Audigy \|\| 2X Seagate Barracuda 120/200gb 7200rpm sata HDD's \|\| Antec Sl-350 watt psu \|\| Blindows xp, sp2, and dx9c --->Queens of the Stone Age kick some serious lyrical ass!!<---

May 15, 2003, 11:08 PM	#2
ViRuS2k DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,343 Rep Power: 57 System Specs	i rate the drivers 1-10 simply becuse they kill GTA VC for performance though i rate it wayyyyyy higher :8-10

May 15, 2003, 11:16 PM	#4
csl1010 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	Well what i still hoping is not performance boost (a numberical game of 3DMarks) but increasing the compatibility & stability overall. Rather than a KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED ati3d2ag.dll For details please warp to here: http://www.driverheaven.net/showthre...163#post133163

May 15, 2003, 11:23 PM	#5
~~Crash Override~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,456 Rep Power: 0	only issues ive been having for a while deal with the dvd player stuttering while on battery power i just grabbed regular powerdvd though and it doesnt stutter at all

May 15, 2003, 11:33 PM	#6
HardWired DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Rocky Mountains Posts: 61 Rep Power: 0	I had no real problems with the 3.2's, and after a couple of hours with these, they seem to be just as stable. 3DMarks are about the same. Anything but a step backwards is a good thing. I'll give them a 9. Gotta keep you working...

May 15, 2003, 11:51 PM	#12
Genius ID10T Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 146 Rep Power: 0	I gave them a 6. I based it on overall value as an upgrade from the 3.2's. They're no doubt fine drivers but.... see previous rant. __________________ [color=White]Abit NF7-S v.2.0 1.5gb ram at 10-3-3-2.5 AMB Barton 2500+ @2215MHz (211x10.5) Dual WD800JB (Raid 0) / WD1600JB / WD800BB Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Logitech Z-680 5.1 speakers Radeon 9800 Pro Sony G420 19"[/color]

May 16, 2003, 12:39 AM	#16
mike83wvu DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 66 Rep Power: 0	Noticeable improvement for me over the 3.2's. Visual quality seems better in the few games I ran { Black Hawk Down & High Heat 2004}. Ran the new & the old 3dMark , scores up about 7% on 2003 & down like amount in 2001. "9" A7N8X Deluxe Rev 2.0 Bios 1003 XP2100”B” @ 2358 {205x11.5} Sapphire 9700 Pro Cat 3.4 Corsair 3200 512mb 6-2-2-2 100GB WD 8mb cache Antec 480 True Aopen 16x Slot dvd Yamaha 44x Writer Alpha 8045 33c/39c Thermaltake 5000a NEC 19” Multisync FE991sb XP Pro Last edited by mike83wvu; May 16, 2003 at 01:08 AM.

May 16, 2003, 12:51 AM	#17
edperks DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 782 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	After a long night of formating my hard drive and geting these new drivers installed i have a 1300 point increase in 3dmark2001se, which I would have to say that alot of those points were due to the new OS, but after benchmarking my machine I found that 2.4 gave me about 11% increase in 3dmark, they also seemed to run better in Half Life and Quake 3. Thanks Ed __________________

May 16, 2003, 12:52 AM	#18
grog Roxy Music Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,064 Rep Power: 52 System Specs	Well I gave the CAT 3.4 a full 9. I would have given the CAT 3.4 a 10 but I have one problem with my 8500DV card. The MMC/TV would consume 100% of the CPU with the 1394 enabled on the 8500DV card. Changing the jumpers on the 8500DV card to disable the 1394 fixed my problem. I did lose my cam but to be honest I am not sure if this is really a ATI driver issue or not. Yes it worked with CAT 3.2 but then again this looks like a timing window problem. Change something in the code might break it on my motherboard. What I am saying is the changes to CAT 3.4 are worth losing my 1394 over. I can always put my pyro 1394 card back in for 1394. The new MMC is also very cool with the new remote control features. I am watching a DVD video of the Moody Blues right now and it is working just like I like it. Here is my setup, you will love this. I have the 8500DV connected to a Sony Trinitron PVM-2030 - 21' Studio Monitor using S-VIDEO. I also have the composite from the 8500DV going to my wife's computer. She also has a ATI AIW card. I pop in the DVD and minimize it. I see the movie on my external TV and my wife across the room is watching the same DVD on her computer screen. Did you know you could use S-VIDEO and composite video at the same time. It works great! Yes, CAT 3.4 gets a 9 and if my 1394 was still functional I would have given it a 10. Almost forgot: Fixed with CAT 3.4: 1.) SPEC Viewperf 7.0 no longer has a problem running ugs-01. 2.) Comanche 4 Benchmark is now able to run the offical test. Greg

May 16, 2003, 01:03 AM	#19
DanielPt DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	i gave them a 9 HL ESC bug fixed... 100 fps stable .. way to go :P heheh

May 16, 2003, 01:22 AM	#21
Datagg Back To ATI Join Date: May 2003 Location: Mesa,AZ Posts: 292 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Well i was one initially who had troubles at first. When i first installed them, i had some serious jaggedness going on, and the comp ran slow, and everyhing would like load up slugglish and all. Someone told me to do the performance tab down yet this wasnt it. Also when loading up Hl it said your card does not support open GL. i just about freaked out. Well anyways, I went thru the procedure to uninstal then instal again. All looked better, and the control panel now had open gl and d3d in it, i didnt notice before that they were not there. HL loaded up, seemd great, yet still a bit jaggy. Figured it improved since reinstal so i did it again. All is working great now..i mean real sweet.. The color scheme is terrific, and the in game vibrance seeems to be improved vastly. The only weird thing is that in 2001 bence I lost 679 points, and oddly enough in 2003 gained 1200. All in all I am extremely pleased with this set and give kudos to the ATI team for getting out a a set that im giving a 9 Thank guys..your the best... LONG LIVE ATI __________________ --- i7-920 @3.8 CORSAIR XMS3 6GB(3 x 2GB) 2 4870 X2's CrossFireX VelociRaptor Asus P6T Deluxe Thermaltake toughpower 1200 Vista 64 Ultimate

May 16, 2003, 01:33 AM	#22
laurarlo DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 49 Rep Power: 0	I definetly give it a 9. i picked up about 500 points in 3d mark 01 , and i finally broke 5000 in 3dmark 03, some of you may not agree with me, but this is my opinion, great job ATI. Anyone know how i can publish my 3DMark 01 SE Score, it will not let me publish anymore for some reason, if i had to many published i did delete most of em, except 2. Any help will be appreciated. Last edited by laurarlo; May 16, 2003 at 01:41 AM.

May 16, 2003, 02:36 AM	#23
mrdarkside2k3 Rah Rah Rah Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DNAlevelC, Ohio Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0	I gave them a 9......no benchmarks yet, but picture vibrance and clarity seems better to me. But one thing....is there a way yet to get the DivX acceleration on Radeon 9000 Pro? I can accelerate that Real Media crap.....why can't I accelerate Divx. Please someone help. I will Benchmark later on in Medal of Honor __________________ ~Rosebud~ Chaintech 7NJL4, AMD Athlon 1800+ @2400+, Radeon 9000 Pro 64meg, (Dual Monitors and TV running), 512 Meg DDR Ram (all Generic), 6 Gig Maxtor HD, 80 Gig WD HD, SB Live! 5.1, BTC 40x12x48, WinXP Pro

May 16, 2003, 02:41 AM	#24
hellgate DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: South Korea Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	I installed Cat 3.4 driver and installed MMC 8.5 also. Catalyst driver is very good. But MMC has some bug about Overlay (I guess. sigh). In Cat control panel, go to overlay menu and click that. I use dual monitor and TV out, but overlay setting is disable.(But it is not serious. I don't care that.) After MMC 8.5 installed ( DAO install -> DVD Decoder install -> MMC 8.5 install ) I excuted several AVI files for testing. When I executed all kind of avi files ( DIVX, XVID, MPEG4, 3IVX ). It appeared too. When MMC starting, Monitor is black-out and turn it on instantly. Catalysts Maker, can you check it is bug or not, please? __________________ CPU : Pentium 4 3.06Ghz @ 3.8Ghz RAM : Geil DDR400 1024M MOBO : Gigabyte SINXP 1394 VGA : Radeon 9700 Pro Sound Card : Hercules GTXP 7.1 Keyboard : Logitech Freedom Optical Mouse : Logitech MX700 Cordless HBA : Adaptec 2940uw, Adaptec DP1554u2 SCSI Raid Controller HDD : Atlas IV 9.1 x 2 (Raid 0), Barracuda IV 60GB, WD30GB, Maxtor 40GB x2(Raid0), SyJet 1.5GB

May 16, 2003, 03:15 AM	#26
C}{$ DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: monkey land Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	I gave them a six. GTA VC runs fine, BF1942 won't run at all, and.... TOCA Race Driver won't run at all. Thanks very much for breaking my games :/ /me returns to the "leaked 3.3's" as they had no problems whatsoever. __________________ C}{$

May 16, 2003, 03:28 AM	#27
Alpha Catalyst Beta tester Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 33 Rep Power: 0	I think the problems in GTA:VC when upgrading to Cat3.4 can be solved by.. Deleting "My Documents\GTA Vice City User Files\gta_vc.set" __________________ System: Mobile Athlon XP2500+@2600mhz, Abit NF7-S 2.0, 1024mb DDR, Viewsonic A90 19", ATI Radeon 9700PRO - Windows XP + SP2 + DX9b

May 16, 2003, 03:53 AM	#28
~~JAV~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: California, USA Posts: 283 Rep Power: 0	For me: they're a ton better than the 3.1's, IQ is better than the 3.2's but, they're slower than the Omega 3.2a w/the same IQ: I've lost 2-7FPS w/no gain in IQ over the Omega. Toca & BF1942 are fine for me. I take it these are for DX9 cards based on the improvements those users are reporting vs the non-DX9 card users 'no FPS gain, but better IQ'? I think it's great that ATI optimizes for speed for the 'enthusiast' cards but, the mainstream card buyers get ??? I realize DX9 is out, but there aren't any DX9 games to benefit: there are a ton of DX8 games & cards tho'. How 'bout some better FPS (w/the IQ increase) for DX8 cards to play todays DX8 based games? .02,

May 16, 2003, 04:44 AM	#29
webskater1 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	BAH I gave them a 1, becouse I have no perfomance boost anywhere with my Radeon 9000 Pro! Thats not fair, You are optimizing the Catalyst drivers only for the 9500, 9700 and 9800!! There are many people with older Radeons, we bought the radeons and we want better optimiziation too! Thats really not fair! __________________ ahh

May 16, 2003, 05:48 AM	#30
RingoBIA DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	I gave them a 3 Reason: They lowered my FPS in Raven Shield even further below playability! Before I had below 20FPS all the time, now I got below 10!!! It usually stayed on 6FPS when I tried them yesterday! Unplayable! Well, It's not so much your fault as it is the stupid dev heads over at UBI... They've messed up all the code from the UT engine it seems. I can play all other games based on that engine very fluid on max settings. Cred to you for keeping us updated on progress and releases! (Something you might wanna teach UBI?) 1.4GHz Athlon 512MB Radeon 9700pro