CATALYST 3.4 Rating

~~BMG_Cya=-~~ · May 16, 2003, 10:57 PM

Change my vote from an 8.5 to a 9.0. The Omegas/Cat 3.4's fixed the stutter, looping sound, phuked up problem in
Blood Omen 2 Legacy of Kain. Nice little extra.

Seraphim Lord to Kain:

"All your clans were set alight, the ashes seared and scattered into the backwaters of time."

Gotta be one of the all time great lines in a videogame.

~~Hundredswords~~ · May 17, 2003, 12:08 AM

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Originally posted by digitalwanderer
Yeah, it was me. I chose me GF3 over me 8500, then just recently upgraded to a GF4 ti4400 and cycled the GF3 to me #2 rig and dumped me 8500 off on a friend. (Sorry Quinn, I'll make it up to you. )

I love me GF3 & GF4, but I am NOT liking nVidia lately. I swore I'd never buy another ATi product until they showed me that they had changed, so they sent me a 9500 Pro to play with for a week and WOW!!!!

I'm STILL jonesing for that 9500 Pro, it's just a whole 'nother league up from me GF3/GF4. Truly another plateu of performance. Once you get used to a lot of good AA & AF it is DAMNED HARD to go back!

I just am too cheap to upgrade, I got a 3 & 5 year old that I stay at home with and I can't just be blowing cash on toys. I buy used/cheap whenever I can/see something and get the best I can for me money.

Me rigs are in me sig; it's me wifes, mine, my 5 year old son, and my 3 year old daughter's PCs in that order.

Oh, did I mention I didn't like nVidia lately? I REALLY don't like nVidia lately.

So, they sent yo a 9500Pro to play with for a week? Are you getting one for writing a review or something?

And, you don't like NVidia, but you use their cards? (i.e. Geforce4 Ti4400)

On the other hand, you cheer on ATI and receive some ATI T-shirts and other stuff from them... and you ditched your 8500 because you said over there you never liked the card?

Maybe I just don't understand; it looks like you are just taking every opportunity to get "free" stuff and exposure on various forums/messageboards.

digitalwanderer · May 17, 2003, 01:28 AM

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Originally posted by Hundredswords
So, they sent yo a 9500Pro to play with for a week? Are you getting one for writing a review or something?

It was a month and it was for a review I never did for here. (And I'm still sorry Zar and feel bad...but I THINK I might finally be able to make that one up to you soon.

)

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And, you don't like NVidia,

Yup. I don't like the way nVidia is doing business at all right now, I find it deplorably underhanded and bordering on the downright illegal. In a word, cheeseball.

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but you use their cards? (i.e. Geforce4 Ti4400)

You didn't mention the GF3 or GF2 T400 I use either, but yes. I like their pre-FX stuff just spiffy. I usually buy all me cards used off the boards or off of friends, the GF4 was the best card I could get with the $100us I had to buy a card with this time.

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On the other hand, you cheer on ATI and receive some ATI T-shirts and other stuff from them...

Actually, no. I got the ATi shirt & hat from the slogan contest this site had for their one year anniversary a little while back. I came in #6 with I think it was, "ATi: The new King of the graphics world!"

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and you ditched your 8500 because you said over there you never liked the card?

Yup. I was never a real big fan of the 8500 and still ain't, I sort of consider it the transitional card between the old ATi and the new ATi. It has all the signs of greatness I see in the new ATi stuff, but it still has the old ATi glitches I remember too well from me rage128 days and such.

It's just my opinion on the card, I didn't care for it. I picked it up for $70us and I didn't feel it was right to charge someone for a piece of hardware I wasn't really fond of, so I gave it to a friend to whom it was an upgrade.

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Maybe I just don't understand; it looks like you are just taking every opportunity to get "free" stuff and exposure on various forums/messageboards.

Ok, so? What's your point? Is there something WRONG with me getting free stuff? Hell, I wouldn't mind it a damned bit!

As for the exposure on boards, there might be some truth to that. I like cruising the boards, it's me social life. I don't have many opportunities to hang with friends in person, but I've met a lot of great people on line and enjoy chatting with them/exchanging thoughts & ideas. It's fun & I like it. If that's what you mean by "exposure" then yeah, I guess I do like it.

To be honest, I don't think I've ever gotten any free stuff before 'til that loaner 9500 Pro from ATi...and I really thought that was neat! Mebbe that's hopelessly naive of me, but I'm a hopelessly naive kind-o-guy that way.

Dude, I'm just a stay-at-home Dad sitting in me jammies typing away on a keyboard. I happen to like fiddling with PCs and gaming on them and I really don't know all that many people in real life who share me interests or could really even understand me anymore when I start talking about them in depth! (I'm learning NOT to talk computers with people anymore, either I lose 'em and their eyes glaze over or I scare 'em with me enthusiasm.

Not talking when computers comes up helps, but it is SO hard to keep a straight face sometimes!

)

On the boards I can, and at my convinience. It's sweet.

As for the free stuff, why the hell would anyone give me anything? I've never done a review, I don't think I'm likely to influence a whole lot of peoples buying opinions, and the only website I'm currently on staff with has a member base just slightly less than 150 people.

If someone wants to give me something that's just fine by me, I'll just play with it and post about it like I would anything else...it does NOT mean that I would endorse something I don't believe in or say something that I don't feel just because of it.

I don't do bribes, the biggest luxury I've ever given meself is to be honest and I don't think money can take that luxury away from me. Honesty is easy, you never have to worry about what ya say because your words will never come back to haunt you.

Does that answer everything? I'll be glad to clear up anything I missed.

EDITED BITS: Oh, since I'm doing the long version of me justification I had to stick this in: once in a while I do occasional help someone with a PC problem on the boards, it's actually why I got into posting so much in the first place. I had a lot of people on the boards hold my hand and help me fix my problems, and I just like to help out other people now as a sort of "paying for the flesh" for all the help and kindness I've gotten. I also remember only too well what it's like to be a newbie and that horrible dread feeling when something is busted and you just can't figure it out and I just like helping people out of them situations because there have been SO many times I wished I had someone to help me when I was learning PCs. (Back in the old pre-net days.

)

~~Crash Override~~ · May 17, 2003, 03:26 AM

btw I really really hate to say this but for those that are having problems with enter the matrix might want to consider an nVidia card *sighs*

Terry can correct me if I am wrong but it seems that Infogrames/Atari (They are just dragging the Atari name through the mud) didnt really do much programming for ATi cards.

I have texture issues of all kinds. Odd Z-Buffer and clipping issues. What type you ask?

Well for comparison a common issue can be seen in Hot Pursuit 2. The waterfalls in one of the levels show more detail the closer you get. In the case of ETM its much much worse.

It seems that you can see parts of outdoor construction equipment while still inside a building causing your view of areas inside that building to get obstructed.

also theres a part of the game where there is an nvidia logo stating *nVidia, the way its meant to be played"

that logo also shows up on some of their cellphones in certain scenes.

I love ATi and they do kick ass. I feel this is not their fault which is why I felt bad saying that an nVidia card would be better for ETM. Anyone read the box? For nVidia it requires a GF2 to play. For ATi at least a 8500

Anyways I wont be getting the PC copy that I have been "testing" instead I intend to buy it for my XBox (Sorry again guys, I wish it were an ATi chip powering that hummer)

~~Optimummind~~ · May 17, 2003, 05:16 AM

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Originally posted by Optimummind
whenever I play Warcraft 3, the game screen really really dark and hazy and I can't see anything. On this computer, I'm running a Radeon 7000 or VE (in case you get confused about my sig and what I write down right now). I'm gonna try to uninstall the 3.4 and see if I have the same problem with 3.1 or 3.2.

Geez, I hope ATI stops having problems with game compatibility.

Here's an update: After uninstalling the 3.4 Catalyst drivers, I installed the 3.1 and 3.2 Catalysts. Both of these previous Catalysts showed no problem with Warcraft 3's game play screens.

Dem2k · May 17, 2003, 05:50 AM

I give it an 8. Theres much room for improvment always. Though with the 3.4's your margined down the gap.

The colour control is spiffy feature. Though I didn't think a colour control applet is what was needed. Nononon you dont want a colour control ridiculous..,.,.,. we want a GIANT SPOON we like SPOONS but not as much as the moon or as cheese or as zeppelins.

longshot520 · May 17, 2003, 06:13 AM

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Originally posted by digitalwanderer
What are your system specs of the rig with the 9000 in it that runs GTA:VC well?

No reason for asking, just curious.....

Pentium 4 @ 2.66GHz, 512MB DDR SDRAM, Intel mobo (the model number escapes me atm), XPsp1 with most of the current Windows Update patches.. Didnt get the chance to try GTA:VC with the 3.2cats because it arrived the day after I'd installed the 3.4's

longshot520 · May 17, 2003, 06:29 AM

Just regarding the problems some people are reporting with GTA:VC, Warp2Search have posted details of a patch which apparently fixes graphic corruption problems. Could be worth a try?

wolfran · May 17, 2003, 06:50 AM

well...i will give it a 9.5 out of 10. First of all the image quality on this driver is better than the previous ones. Second it run faster on most games when fsaa and anisotropic are enabled (in ut2003 the fps goes up by 20!! and unreal2 seems to run smoother as well).
The only thing that makes it lose 0.5 point is that with this driver i lose about 1-2 fps in ut2003 when no fsaa and no aniso. Can anyone else confirm this?
However overall i think is a very good driver and worth the upgrade from cat 3.2

btw, my spec is
athlon xp 2600+
radeon 9700
asus a7n8x

El_Coyote · May 17, 2003, 07:02 AM

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Originally posted by Runner3001
I gave them a 6 due to this very problem, that and they weren't what I was expecting in terms of performance, the Omega version of them made them that though

To be more clear about what El_Coyote said what happens is if you have dual monitors, and your primary monitor is plugged into the VGA and not the DVI port, changes made in the ATi control panel will not work. The control panel is putting the settings under the Radeon 9700 Pro - Secondary registry key rather than primary. As you may realize...that does nothing, in order to make changes to your control panel settings you have to disable your secondary monitor before you do it, it doesn't require a reboot. You can re-enable the secondary monitor afterwards, but any further settings changes will require you to turn it off again. I've tested this significantly, and this is what appears to be going on. Wish I had just turned the damn thing off in the first place instead of the 10+ 3.4 reinstalls I did. It was not like this in previous drivers.

i dont think it has anything to do with the vga/dvi ports, because my primary monitor is an LCD plugged into the DVI prot, so i have the opposite situation of you, yet i still have the problem.
and to me it DOES require a reboot to change settings, so dont call me a liar plz, before you have seen what i got to do to make things work.

El_Coyote · May 17, 2003, 07:09 AM

Quote:

btw I really really hate to say this but for those that are having problems with enter the matrix might want to consider an nVidia card *sighs* Terry can correct me if I am wrong but it seems that Infogrames/Atari (They are just dragging the Atari name through the mud) didnt really do much programming for ATi cards. I have texture issues of all kinds. Odd Z-Buffer and clipping issues. What type you ask?

if it was a problem with the game, shouldnt everyone have the problem, it runs excellent on my 9500 with 4xaa and 16xaniso. The only issue i've seen is an occational tecture that was flickering. nothing i find more than mildly annoying.

br00dy · May 17, 2003, 09:31 AM

Not much gain on my R8500, but thats to be expected, but IQ seems cleaner to me anyway
in WinXP, so I give them a 9

Dmac43 · May 17, 2003, 10:02 AM

"if it were overheating I would be having problems in every game that I play "

This is not necessarily true... Each game stresses the Graphics adapter in different ways... some much harder than others... That said, I too would doubt that this was heat related as it does not happen with the 3.2 drivers... that is unless the 3.4 driver is causing the Graphics adapter to work harder or is doing something differently than the 3.2 driver (doubtful)...

Have you considered the possibility that you might have a piece of an older driver that is causing the problem? ... then again it could be the new driver...

digitalwanderer · May 17, 2003, 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by Dmac43
"if it were overheating I would be having problems in every game that I play "

This is not necessarily true... Each game stresses the Graphics adapter in different ways... some much harder than others... That said, I too would doubt that this was heat related as it does not happen with the 3.2 drivers... that is unless the 3.4 driver is causing the Graphics adapter to work harder or is doing something differently than the 3.2 driver (doubtful)...

Yup. I've found some games just seem to stress me cards differently, especially newer ones that involve a lot of pixel shader action.

~~madgamer~~ · May 17, 2003, 10:23 AM

3.4 run great for me nice quality and performance boost

Uriel_is_UndaC · May 17, 2003, 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by Crash Override
btw I really really hate to say this but for those that are having problems with enter the matrix might want to consider an nVidia card *sighs*

I have texture issues of all kinds. Odd Z-Buffer and clipping issues. What type you ask?

I think this is mainly due to ATi dropping W-buffer support. Matrix was programmed primarily for using a W-buffer...

The games that DO prefer a W-buffer by default also tend to function much better when using one instead of a Z-buffer.

GUNNIX · May 17, 2003, 02:16 PM

But u can enable W buffer support in de D3D tab isn't it ? So is evrything fixed when u do that ? Or isn't it that easy ....

~~Crash Override~~ · May 17, 2003, 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by El_Coyote
if it was a problem with the game, shouldnt everyone have the problem, it runs excellent on my 9500 with 4xaa and 16xaniso. The only issue i've seen is an occational tecture that was flickering. nothing i find more than mildly annoying.

ive played the whole game through to the end already

there is a level where things that are outside are inside blocking your view

I cant remember the name of the level offhand but i do know that its like a construction area

Runner3001 · May 17, 2003, 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by El_Coyote
i dont think it has anything to do with the vga/dvi ports, because my primary monitor is an LCD plugged into the DVI prot, so i have the opposite situation of you, yet i still have the problem.
and to me it DOES require a reboot to change settings, so dont call me a liar plz, before you have seen what i got to do to make things work.

Sorry I didn't mean to make it sound like I was calling you a liar. I was just clarifying what I have already said, since you appeared to have gotten your synopsis of the bug from my post in the cat 3.4 thread. I, at one time, had to reboot for changes, or thought I did, and then one day...it just started not requiring one. What OS do you run?

Erroneus · May 18, 2003, 04:28 AM

sry guys i voted 1, beacuse my system fucked up, and then i thought it was the cat 3.4 drivers, but actually it was a leak in my water-cooling :o Can an admin change my vote to 9

Monolyth · May 19, 2003, 11:00 AM

I gave the drivers a 9, I could not see giving them a 10 because I believe that they would have to be truly "evolutionary" drivers to get such a rating. Nothing against ATI, you did a wonderful job on the 3.4's (Counter-Strike ESC BUG FIXED YIPEE!!!).

GTA:VC (Just finished all missions teehee) runs great @ 8xAniso 4xfsaa 1600x1200. I actually used to play it at 1280x1024 for awhile, and one day it like autoswitched for some reason, and I didn't even notice ANY difference in performance, and sheesh until I hit my monitor Refresh Rate button to ensure I was getting the proper Refresh I was like 1600x1200 WTF! I just love flying above the city listening to ma tunes, landing on buildings shooting people. I just wish R*N had enabled support for M3U/PLS playlists, so you could listen to streams and put playlists in the DIR instead of having to put files in the MP3 directory. Also wished they had allows the radio to keep playing when you get out of a car, but oh well. Still a great game. RC missions are a PAIN!!!! Hehe.

I have also played through Enter the Matrix, DON'T PATCH TO 1.51 or 1.52 unless you are having serious issues. IMHO the patches don't help the gameplay & performance at all. Also the sound I know causes lots of performance issues. Try turning off EAX (if only audio processors were as good at their job as Graphics Chipsets, GIMME CPU OFFLOAD, WE WANT A TRUE APU!!!).

Warcraft 3 runs smooth as ice as well with full settings.

Haven't re-installed Generals since my upgrade, will be doing that soon perhaps tonight will give ya'll the report on it too. So far I'm loving my 9800 Pro can't wait for next gen card from ATI, R400 vs NV40 sure to be one heck of a grudge-match!

Peace!

Here's some screenie loving from GTAVC

For Modem Users (498KB)
For Broadband Users (1.27MB)

digitalwanderer · May 19, 2003, 11:05 AM

Just being able to install & try this set of drivers makes me vote a big "10" for 'em!!!!!! Thank you ATi!!!!!

riles9262 · May 19, 2003, 10:06 PM

a 9 from me...the drivers are very good. however, for me, simcity 4 still hangs! i do not currently have the game patched, do i have to in order to fix this prob (i'll hopefully get my net back in a week or 2)? i thought it was fixed at first, got to about 15000 ppl in my city without any locks. since then tho, it hangs about once every hour. this is with both aa and af on or off, it doesnt matter.

LioCraft · May 20, 2003, 12:41 PM

I see no changes on control pannel, no color tabs.....is that normal?

Erroneus · May 21, 2003, 07:22 AM

and you installed the new control panel also..

DanielPt · May 21, 2003, 08:26 PM

you can just put shortcuts for the mp3 Monolyth

BWX · May 21, 2003, 11:07 PM

8 is the score I give them, I think I see a problem with Anisotropic filtering in SOF2 MP- It seems to wash out too quickly even at 16x. these seem to be pretty fast drivers though, if a (edit)-->little "jerky" at times. Still, a big improvement in speed.

LioCraft · May 22, 2003, 06:42 PM

I Installed both, drivers and control panel. But control panel really seems to be pretty much the same.

joebroni · May 22, 2003, 08:15 PM

I didn't have many problems running any games on my Radeon 9800 with the 3.2's so no difference with the 3.4's. Not much performance gain on 3dmark 01 or 03. The only problem I have with these drivers is when you alt-tab out of any 3D game and use the desktop, when I scroll through my browser the picture would blur or when I would drag a window it would also blur. The 3.1 or 3.2's never done this. Anyone else have this problem?

muirplayer57 · May 22, 2003, 09:10 PM

i would give the new 3.4 drivers a high score but one thing about it bothers the hell out of me... when i have the control panel installed, in counter-strike i cant use the arrow keys, page up/down, end, home insert or delete.. why? dunno. on the other hand the drivers work just fine. (p.s. does anyone know how to fix this?)

May 17, 2003, 05:50 AM	#96
Dem2k DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	I give it an 8. Theres much room for improvment always. Though with the 3.4's your margined down the gap. The colour control is spiffy feature. Though I didn't think a colour control applet is what was needed. Nononon you dont want a colour control ridiculous..,.,.,. we want a GIANT SPOON we like SPOONS but not as much as the moon or as cheese or as zeppelins. __________________ I disagree Sir! What use would a disinfected camel bring?

May 17, 2003, 06:50 AM	#99
wolfran DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 424 Rep Power: 0	good driver well...i will give it a 9.5 out of 10. First of all the image quality on this driver is better than the previous ones. Second it run faster on most games when fsaa and anisotropic are enabled (in ut2003 the fps goes up by 20!! and unreal2 seems to run smoother as well). The only thing that makes it lose 0.5 point is that with this driver i lose about 1-2 fps in ut2003 when no fsaa and no aniso. Can anyone else confirm this? However overall i think is a very good driver and worth the upgrade from cat 3.2 btw, my spec is athlon xp 2600+ radeon 9700 asus a7n8x

May 17, 2003, 02:16 PM	#107
GUNNIX DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 157 Rep Power: 0	But u can enable W buffer support in de D3D tab isn't it ? So is evrything fixed when u do that ? Or isn't it that easy .... __________________ XP 2200+TB ,Radeon 9100(290/290) ,256mb DDR 266mhz,... stripped an tweaked (lite98pro and HyperOS) Win98se using Aston shell

May 18, 2003, 04:28 AM	#110
Erroneus Loving my Windows 7 Ent. Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 12,921 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	damnit sry guys i voted 1, beacuse my system fucked up, and then i thought it was the cat 3.4 drivers, but actually it was a leak in my water-cooling :o Can an admin change my vote to 9 __________________

May 19, 2003, 11:00 AM	#111
Monolyth DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2003 Location: Springfield, IL Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	I gave the drivers a 9, I could not see giving them a 10 because I believe that they would have to be truly "evolutionary" drivers to get such a rating. Nothing against ATI, you did a wonderful job on the 3.4's (Counter-Strike ESC BUG FIXED YIPEE!!!). GTA:VC (Just finished all missions teehee) runs great @ 8xAniso 4xfsaa 1600x1200. I actually used to play it at 1280x1024 for awhile, and one day it like autoswitched for some reason, and I didn't even notice ANY difference in performance, and sheesh until I hit my monitor Refresh Rate button to ensure I was getting the proper Refresh I was like 1600x1200 WTF! I just love flying above the city listening to ma tunes, landing on buildings shooting people. I just wish RN had enabled support for M3U/PLS playlists, so you could listen to streams and put playlists in the DIR instead of having to put files in the MP3 directory. Also wished they had allows the radio to keep playing when you get out of a car, but oh well. Still a great game. RC missions are a PAIN!!!! Hehe. I have also played through Enter the Matrix, DON'T PATCH TO 1.51 or 1.52 unless you are having serious issues. IMHO the patches don't help the gameplay & performance at all. Also the sound I know causes lots of performance issues. Try turning off EAX (if only audio processors were as good at their job as Graphics Chipsets, GIMME CPU OFFLOAD, WE WANT A TRUE APU!!!). Warcraft 3 runs smooth as ice as well with full settings. Haven't re-installed Generals since my upgrade, will be doing that soon perhaps tonight will give ya'll the report on it too. So far I'm loving my 9800 Pro can't wait for next gen card from ATI, R400 vs NV40 sure to be one heck of a grudge-match! Peace! Here's some screenie loving from GTAVC For Modem Users (498KB) For Broadband Users (1.27MB) __________________ Meow Mix Kills...* Lykanthrope Rig Last edited by Monolyth; May 19, 2003 at 11:51 AM.

May 16, 2003, 10:57 PM	#91
~~BMG_Cya=-~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 721 Rep Power: 0	Change my vote from an 8.5 to a 9.0. The Omegas/Cat 3.4's fixed the stutter, looping sound, phuked up problem in Blood Omen 2 Legacy of Kain. Nice little extra. Seraphim Lord to Kain: "All your clans were set alight, the ashes seared and scattered into the backwaters of time." Gotta be one of the all time great lines in a videogame.

May 17, 2003, 03:26 AM	#94
~~Crash Override~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,456 Rep Power: 0	btw I really really hate to say this but for those that are having problems with enter the matrix might want to consider an nVidia card sighs Terry can correct me if I am wrong but it seems that Infogrames/Atari (They are just dragging the Atari name through the mud) didnt really do much programming for ATi cards. I have texture issues of all kinds. Odd Z-Buffer and clipping issues. What type you ask? Well for comparison a common issue can be seen in Hot Pursuit 2. The waterfalls in one of the levels show more detail the closer you get. In the case of ETM its much much worse. It seems that you can see parts of outdoor construction equipment while still inside a building causing your view of areas inside that building to get obstructed. also theres a part of the game where there is an nvidia logo stating *nVidia, the way its meant to be played" that logo also shows up on some of their cellphones in certain scenes. I love ATi and they do kick ass. I feel this is not their fault which is why I felt bad saying that an nVidia card would be better for ETM. Anyone read the box? For nVidia it requires a GF2 to play. For ATi at least a 8500 Anyways I wont be getting the PC copy that I have been "testing" instead I intend to buy it for my XBox (Sorry again guys, I wish it were an ATi chip powering that hummer)

May 17, 2003, 06:29 AM	#98
longshot520 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	Just regarding the problems some people are reporting with GTA:VC, Warp2Search have posted details of a patch which apparently fixes graphic corruption problems. Could be worth a try?

May 17, 2003, 09:31 AM	#102
br00dy DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	Not much gain on my R8500, but thats to be expected, but IQ seems cleaner to me anyway in WinXP, so I give them a 9

May 17, 2003, 10:02 AM	#103
Dmac43 DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2002 Location: FLA USA Posts: 124 Rep Power: 0	"if it were overheating I would be having problems in every game that I play " This is not necessarily true... Each game stresses the Graphics adapter in different ways... some much harder than others... That said, I too would doubt that this was heat related as it does not happen with the 3.2 drivers... that is unless the 3.4 driver is causing the Graphics adapter to work harder or is doing something differently than the 3.2 driver (doubtful)... Have you considered the possibility that you might have a piece of an older driver that is causing the problem? ... then again it could be the new driver...

May 17, 2003, 10:23 AM	#105
~~madgamer~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	3.4 run great for me nice quality and performance boost

May 19, 2003, 11:05 AM	#112
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,621 Rep Power: 0	I voted 10, and I'm VERY happy! Just being able to install & try this set of drivers makes me vote a big "10" for 'em!!!!!! Thank you ATi!!!!! __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

May 19, 2003, 10:06 PM	#113
riles9262 Driverheaven brewmaster Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,839 Rep Power: 55 System Specs	i'll give em a 9 a 9 from me...the drivers are very good. however, for me, simcity 4 still hangs! i do not currently have the game patched, do i have to in order to fix this prob (i'll hopefully get my net back in a week or 2)? i thought it was fixed at first, got to about 15000 ppl in my city without any locks. since then tho, it hangs about once every hour. this is with both aa and af on or off, it doesnt matter. __________________ A beer a day keeps the doctor away.

May 20, 2003, 12:41 PM	#114
LioCraft DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 62 Rep Power: 0	I see no changes on control pannel, no color tabs.....is that normal? __________________

May 21, 2003, 07:22 AM	#115
Erroneus Loving my Windows 7 Ent. Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 12,921 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	... and you installed the new control panel also.. __________________

May 21, 2003, 08:26 PM	#116
DanielPt DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	you can just put shortcuts for the mp3 Monolyth

May 21, 2003, 11:07 PM	#117
BWX Spinal Tapped Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,572 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	8 is the score I give them, I think I see a problem with Anisotropic filtering in SOF2 MP- It seems to wash out too quickly even at 16x. these seem to be pretty fast drivers though, if a (edit)-->little "jerky" at times. Still, a big improvement in speed. __________________ One Big Ass Mistake America Last edited by BWX; May 22, 2003 at 07:37 PM.

May 22, 2003, 06:42 PM	#118
LioCraft DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 62 Rep Power: 0	Color TABS I Installed both, drivers and control panel. But control panel really seems to be pretty much the same. __________________

May 22, 2003, 08:15 PM	#119
joebroni DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	I didn't have many problems running any games on my Radeon 9800 with the 3.2's so no difference with the 3.4's. Not much performance gain on 3dmark 01 or 03. The only problem I have with these drivers is when you alt-tab out of any 3D game and use the desktop, when I scroll through my browser the picture would blur or when I would drag a window it would also blur. The 3.1 or 3.2's never done this. Anyone else have this problem?

May 22, 2003, 09:10 PM	#120
muirplayer57 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0	i would give the new 3.4 drivers a high score but one thing about it bothers the hell out of me... when i have the control panel installed, in counter-strike i cant use the arrow keys, page up/down, end, home insert or delete.. why? dunno. on the other hand the drivers work just fine. (p.s. does anyone know how to fix this?) __________________ ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe \| XP2500+ @ 2200mhz \| 1gb geil pc3200 \| Flashed 5950u \| 120gb & 80gb WD HD \| Koolance Liquid Cooling Gigabyte GA-7N400 Pro2 \| XP2600+ \| 1gb Kingston pc2700 \| gf4 ti4600 \| 2x20gb WD HD \| Swiftech Liquid Cooling Gigabyte GA-7VAXP \| XP2000+ \| 768mb mixed pc2100 \| TNT2 Model 64 \| Seagate 40gb HD \| Thermaltake Volcano 11