CATALYST 3.4 now available

cjlive · May 15, 2003, 09:18 PM

Should SmartGuard be installed by default with the drivers or does it come with the control panel setup..

Hmmm smartguard finally installed after the third attempt. No more stutter.............yay

cjlive

El_Coyote · May 15, 2003, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Runner3001
I can't for the life of me get AA to turn on...No amount of messing with registry settings, uninstalls and reinstalls(accompanied by manual leftover removal in both registry and windows dirs as well as trying Drivercleaner...), or fiddling with the control panel will get it to turn on, same goes for AF. The settings for them keep appearing in the Radeon 9700 Pro - Secondary registry key and when I add them to the non-secondary key it doesn't do sweet fuck all. Rebooting between changes also will not fix it...wtf is going on? I also had the same problem as someone else here mentioned, upon first install I had absolutely no hardware acceleration, D3D and OpenGL were both hosed, a reinstall cured it, but now the AA and AF problems...Sigh, I keep hearing FB runs like a baby's ass in perfect mode with these too. If I can't fix this its back to modded 9800 path 3.2's

i cant force AA in the drivers either.
only things that can turn them on ingame works... like codecreatures :\

Genius · May 15, 2003, 09:20 PM

I hate to post my rant over here on Driver Heaven but Rage 3D is down and I want ATI and those with problems to see my take on this whole driver fiasco....

I just don't get it. Would you guys [ATI] spend some more time actually FIXING sh!t and quit screwing with are marginal performance increases? The R300 series is fast enough for now God dammit. Are we too worried that we might lose the performance crown to Nvidia's underhanded marketing? I just don't see what gives. Everyone's been blabbing about how these drivers are going to kick so much ass we won't be able to walk for two weeks but in the end, we see no huge difference and many of the same issues exist. Come on already. Practice what you preach or screw this WHQL crap and start giving us more driver sets so we can attempt to find one that suits our individual needs best. This 6-8 week cycle for a 5-10% performance increase in FSAA and AF just isn't doing it. I've bitten my tounge on issues for quite some time figuring you guys were on the right track. God damn.

But hey, at least 3DMark 2003 is faster right?

Catalyst Maker I really do appreciate your work and involvement here, but damn man, come on.

At least Half-Life got fixed.

Some people got screwed in the deal. Some people got a bonus. For some nothing changed. Is this what you call a unified driver (cough 9000 bug cough).

Datagg · May 15, 2003, 09:20 PM

Hey runner, that prob was with me. Iy took me 3 reinstalls to get this driver to work. Each time uninstaling in control panel and then doing the driver remover. 3 times, to finally get anything to move in control panel, hell the first install didnt have the d3d or open gl in it.....and the comp ran like hell...3 installs later it all seems to be fine for now. Though i am down on 3d bence in 2001 almost 800 points, yet up in 2003 about 400. Very strange....anyways thats all I got....Good luck man

ViRuS2k · May 15, 2003, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by express15_99
You must have a P4 3.0 GHz comp to run UT2003 with 16x Anisotropic filtering.

Bullshit. plain and simple

**G.I.BRO** · May 15, 2003, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ViRuS2k
Bullshit. plain and simple

cuss'n

Agreed tho... im running a AMD2100+ and all is smooth.

schwarz2 · May 15, 2003, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by schwarz2
patje, I tried the auto modder for the mobilities and it didn't seem to work right. It wouldn't install. I checked the inf files and there was no added mention of PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4C57 which is the 7500M device. I may have just done something dumb as I am in a rush, so I will finish off this post later, but just something to check into. Thanks! Schwarz2

My apologies patje. I was in a rush and used the wrong inf. Works perfectly... great work on that useful tool.

Schwarz2

Alpha · May 15, 2003, 10:40 PM

Next time don't "bite your tongue on issues" and don't come on the forums screaming at ATI for not fixing problems..

Instead go here http://apps.ati.com/driverfeedback/ and tell ATI what problems you're having

BTW - that doesn't mean use the form as a place to yell and b*tch at ATI. It means take the time to tell ATI all the pertinent information that they can use to solve the problems you're having.

People are going to have to start understand that just because they b*tch and moan in a forum thread that Catalyst Maker might happen to read doesn't mean the problem is going to get fixed.

Quote:

Originally posted by Genius
I hate to post my rant over here on Driver Heaven but Rage 3D is down and I want ATI and those with problems to see my take on this whole driver fiasco....

I just don't get it. Would you guys [ATI] spend some more time actually FIXING sh!t and quit screwing with are marginal performance increases? The R300 series is fast enough for now God dammit. Are we too worried that we might lose the performance crown to Nvidia's underhanded marketing? I just don't see what gives. Everyone's been blabbing about how these drivers are going to kick so much ass we won't be able to walk for two weeks but in the end, we see no huge difference and many of the same issues exist. Come on already. Practice what you preach or screw this WHQL crap and start giving us more driver sets so we can attempt to find one that suits our individual needs best. This 6-8 week cycle for a 5-10% performance increase in FSAA and AF just isn't doing it. I've bitten my tounge on issues for quite some time figuring you guys were on the right track. God damn.

But hey, at least 3DMark 2003 is faster right?

Catalyst Maker I really do appreciate your work and involvement here, but damn man, come on.

At least Half-Life got fixed.

Some people got screwed in the deal. Some people got a bonus. For some nothing changed. Is this what you call a unified driver (cough 9000 bug cough).

Runner3001 · May 15, 2003, 10:41 PM

I don't know wth got changed in these new drivers that would cover my problem:

Quote:

I can't for the life of me get AA to turn on...No amount of messing with registry settings, uninstalls and reinstalls(accompanied by manual leftover removal in both registry and windows dirs as well as trying Drivercleaner...), or fiddling with the control panel will get it to turn on, same goes for AF. The settings for them keep appearing in the Radeon 9700 Pro - Secondary registry key and when I add them to the non-secondary key it doesn't do sweet fuck all. Rebooting between changes also will not fix it...wtf is going on? I also had the same problem as someone else here mentioned, upon first install I had absolutely no hardware acceleration, D3D and OpenGL were both hosed, a reinstall cured it, but now the AA and AF problems...Sigh, I keep hearing FB runs like a baby's ass in perfect mode with these too. If I can't fix this its back to modded 9800 path 3.2's

But in my opinion, this is a very stupid bug, Ive been trying ever since these came out today to get this to work and nothing will fix it. I'll tell you one thing though, this set of drivers has pissed me off more than any other set I can remember. And that says something considering ive used every single leaked and official driver set from the original 3276's when the 8500 was first released up till these with my 9700 Pro. Im not going to say this can't be a problem with my rig, but it sure as hell isn't something I've done. I've tried every damn thing I can think of to get these to work, followed instructions to the last letter from the readme with these, done what I usually do which is completely wipe any trace of the old drivers, manual driver installs, everything...multiple times. Save format, which I highly doubt will make any difference given what I have done already, unless something is hijacking the 9700's settings somehow...besides, this is a relatively clean install anyway, its about 1 week and a half old or so now.

I don't know what to do anymore...Oh and I have reported it to catalystcrew.

*CATALYST maker* · May 15, 2003, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Genius
I hate to post my rant over here on Driver Heaven but Rage 3D is down and I want ATI and those with problems to see my take on this whole driver fiasco....

I just don't get it. Would you guys [ATI] spend some more time actually FIXING sh!t and quit screwing with are marginal performance increases? The R300 series is fast enough for now God dammit. Are we too worried that we might lose the performance crown to Nvidia's underhanded marketing? I just don't see what gives. Everyone's been blabbing about how these drivers are going to kick so much ass we won't be able to walk for two weeks but in the end, we see no huge difference and many of the same issues exist. Come on already. Practice what you preach or screw this WHQL crap and start giving us more driver sets so we can attempt to find one that suits our individual needs best. This 6-8 week cycle for a 5-10% performance increase in FSAA and AF just isn't doing it. I've bitten my tounge on issues for quite some time figuring you guys were on the right track. God damn.

But hey, at least 3DMark 2003 is faster right?

Catalyst Maker I really do appreciate your work and involvement here, but damn man, come on.

At least Half-Life got fixed.

Some people got screwed in the deal. Some people got a bonus. For some nothing changed. Is this what you call a unified driver (cough 9000 bug cough).

Actually buddy the amount of work we did on performance improvements versus bug fixes versus new features breaks down like this 10% for performance, 60% for bug fixes and stability and 30% for new features.

What is broken for you? You coming on here and tell me to "come on" doesnt really give me much to go on. Right now I am scanning the various forums and dont see any new bugs across the board. All I see is individual system type issues which usually can get fixed.

So please let me know what I can do to make you happier. Give me a detailed problem description and a steps to reproduce scenario. Of course the forums are not the best place to give me this info so make sure you use CATALYST CREW thats what its there for. But feel free to let me know in the forums I may end up reading it and spending some personal time to make you happy!

BlackIce · May 15, 2003, 10:51 PM

Just want to say hi to all being my very first post.

Just wanted to know if the drivers were installed properly. I have WinXp
and under device manager -> display adapters -> properties it says diver version
6.14.10.6343. is this correct?

If not, what am i doing wrong?

Thanks in advance.

Datagg · May 15, 2003, 10:52 PM

Catalyst maker, we all thank you for your dedication on all of this. So please dont let one immature person discourage you and what you do here for us. Thank you again sir..

Awesome Job

BONEHEAD · May 15, 2003, 10:53 PM

well i like the new 8.5mmc since that is what i use the most Catylist Maker you should make it known that people have to setup EazyLook before using the mmc i thought my remote broke every time i pushed channel or volume it made tv go into full screen. i did figure that out. Great job

Alpha · May 15, 2003, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Datagg
Catalyst maker, we all thank you for your dedication on all of this. So please dont let one immature person discourage you and what you do here for us. Thank you again sir..

Awesome Job

Catalyst maker is a machine. No amount of immaturity or death threats discourage him.

Runner3001 · May 15, 2003, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CATALYST maker
What is broken for you? You coming on here and tell me to "come on" doesnt really give me much to go on. Right now I am scanning the various forums and dont see any new bugs across the board. All I see is individual system type issues which usually can get fixed.

So please let me know what I can do to make you happier. Give me a detailed problem description and a steps to reproduce scenario. Of course the forums are not the best place to give me this info so make sure you use CATALYST CREW thats what its there for. But feel free to let me know in the forums I may end up reading it and spending some personal time to make you happy!

Catalyst maker, if you've seen my problem I would greatly appreciate some feedback if you have time, is this likely a problem with my system or a wacky little bug? I have honestly tried everything I could think of to alleviate the problem...El_Coyote has the same problem and from what I can tell of his system, they are very different platforms. Anyways, which is it? Bug or Problem here? Give the word and I will format.

EcPercy · May 15, 2003, 11:06 PM

sweet i cant wait to install... maybe i can get just a little more from the ole' 9000 pro

csl1010 · May 15, 2003, 11:10 PM

Well I am not happy with recent Catalyst 3.4

When i am playing Planetside:
Catalyst: 3.0/3.0a - About an hr of gameplay to blue screen
3.1 - Immediately blue screen after logged in and loading the game
3.2 - One to five minutes to blue screen
3.4 - Same as 3.1

The message is:

KMOD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED ati3d2ag.dll

------------
Radeon 8500LE ATI Original

ViRuS2k · May 15, 2003, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by csl1010
Well I am not happy with recent Catalyst 3.4

When i am playing Planetside:
Catalyst: 3.0/3.0a - About an hr of gameplay to blue screen
3.1 - Immediately blue screen after logged in and loading the game
3.2 - One to five minutes to blue screen
3.4 - Same as 3.1

The message is:

KMOD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED ati3d2ag.dll

------------
Radeon 8500LE ATI Original

funny thats the same file name i see when my GTA VC BSOD`d on me.

these 3.4`s are Buggy talke about quality control and the 8 weeks it took to release em ....

strange why 3.2`s dont do this.

DanielPt · May 15, 2003, 11:24 PM

about the fps problem ... well i only started having it when i instaled rage3d or control panel not sure :X

just installed 3.4 going to try it out with HL now .. wish me luck

SmoothImmigrant · May 15, 2003, 11:29 PM

The new drivers have somehow limited my movement in Quake 3. I have it set to always run, but ever since installing these, I will run for a little bit then walk then run (randomly). I think it has something to do with the rounding error in Q3 with the fps but I don't know what these drivers messed up, as the previous ones didn't affect the movement. I"m also still getting crashing with the Urban Terror mod but I guess I will just reinstall it or delete the q3config file and hope for the best. Hope these work well for the rest of you, bye

**G.I.BRO** · May 15, 2003, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SmoothImmigrant
The new drivers have somehow limited my movement in Quake 3. I have it set to always run, but ever since installing these, I will run for a little bit then walk then run (randomly). I think it has something to do with the rounding error in Q3 with the fps but I don't know what these drivers messed up, as the previous ones didn't affect the movement. I"m also still getting crashing with the Urban Terror mod but I guess I will just reinstall it or delete the q3config file and hope for the best. Hope these work well for the rest of you, bye

Try disabling numlock, then reconfigure your controls...

SmoothImmigrant · May 15, 2003, 11:39 PM

um, thanks gi bro...that worked but what does numlock have to do with it?

**G.I.BRO** · May 15, 2003, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SmoothImmigrant
um, thanks gi bro...that worked but what does numlock have to do with it?

To be honest, i dont know... I'll look into this more.

~~mplsek~~ · May 15, 2003, 11:51 PM

catalyst maker, maybe you can help me with my problem - (this is copy and paste from another forum)

Can someone please help me?

I've got an AMD Athlong 1.333 (not clocked0
512m ram
win xp
DX9 (now updated to 9.0a)
ATI Radeon 9500 PRO (updated from NVidia Geforce2 GTS - in case that makes a difference)
tried all Catalyst from 3.0-3.x (as i type this 3.4 JUST came out - but i have no internet at home, so it will be some time before i get it home and try)

Anyway - in F1 2002 (and only this game - most others are ok, GPL won't load, but it's an old game) i get some weird polygon problems - it's hard to describe, like whoever drew the polygons (if they did it with a pen - work with me here) forgot to lift the pen and moved somewhere else on the screen to draw the next one.

The cars also have triangular holes all over the place, like someone has moved one of the points from where it's meant to be

the sky is also just a few very large polygons - some black

Also the background texture (mostly tree texture) sometimes appears across the track (much like adelaide in the original M3 mod release) except this is only since changing vid cards..

does this make sense? - can anyone help please? - much appreciated.
Marty

Genius · May 15, 2003, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alpha
Next time don't "bite your tongue on issues" and don't come on the forums screaming at ATI for not fixing problems..

Instead go here http://apps.ati.com/driverfeedback/ and tell ATI what problems you're having

BTW - that doesn't mean use the form as a place to yell and b*tch at ATI. It means take the time to tell ATI all the pertinent information that they can use to solve the problems you're having.

People are going to have to start understand that just because they b*tch and moan in a forum thread that Catalyst Maker might happen to read doesn't mean the problem is going to get fixed.

Why would I provide feedback for issues they're already aware of???

sanosizo · May 15, 2003, 11:59 PM

does it fix the [ 9100 + pro race driver ] transparent cars?

Genius · May 16, 2003, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CATALYST maker
Actually buddy the amount of work we did on performance improvements versus bug fixes versus new features breaks down like this 10% for performance, 60% for bug fixes and stability and 30% for new features.

What is broken for you? You coming on here and tell me to "come on" doesnt really give me much to go on. Right now I am scanning the various forums and dont see any new bugs across the board. All I see is individual system type issues which usually can get fixed.

So please let me know what I can do to make you happier. Give me a detailed problem description and a steps to reproduce scenario. Of course the forums are not the best place to give me this info so make sure you use CATALYST CREW thats what its there for. But feel free to let me know in the forums I may end up reading it and spending some personal time to make you happy!

Descent 3 and Desktop corruption after VESA. I don't have to provide much else as you already have the information. Those are my personal desires for the drivers. I've read other peoples problems as well, filtering out the user error/hardware config/etc and made my own judgement.

CM I know you work hard to bring us these drivers. I also realize you're pressured by your own superiors within ATI to meet certain goals and such. I don't mean to come off harsh at you personally. It's just frusterating to go so many months with a problem and never see it touched (Descent 3 bug) though I have no doubt you guys are now looking into it. It took me mentioning it twice before you requested the information. Luckily I was able to get an error message out of Windows that time.

Azure · May 16, 2003, 12:02 AM

hm i can't alt+tab from CS, my screen will go black for a while then it go back to desktop

**G.I.BRO** · May 16, 2003, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Genius
Why would I provide feedback for issues they're already aware of???

Because if only one or two people report it, it may be very low on the list of things to do.

The more people report a specific issue, its gets bumped up.

CoolZone · May 16, 2003, 12:07 AM

No fix yet for radeon 9100 in Toca race Driver

May 15, 2003, 09:18 PM	#91
cjlive DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	SmartGuard Should SmartGuard be installed by default with the drivers or does it come with the control panel setup.. Hmmm smartguard finally installed after the third attempt. No more stutter.............yay cjlive Last edited by cjlive; May 15, 2003 at 09:23 PM.

May 15, 2003, 09:20 PM	#93
Genius ID10T Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 146 Rep Power: 0	I hate to post my rant over here on Driver Heaven but Rage 3D is down and I want ATI and those with problems to see my take on this whole driver fiasco.... I just don't get it. Would you guys [ATI] spend some more time actually FIXING sh!t and quit screwing with are marginal performance increases? The R300 series is fast enough for now God dammit. Are we too worried that we might lose the performance crown to Nvidia's underhanded marketing? I just don't see what gives. Everyone's been blabbing about how these drivers are going to kick so much ass we won't be able to walk for two weeks but in the end, we see no huge difference and many of the same issues exist. Come on already. Practice what you preach or screw this WHQL crap and start giving us more driver sets so we can attempt to find one that suits our individual needs best. This 6-8 week cycle for a 5-10% performance increase in FSAA and AF just isn't doing it. I've bitten my tounge on issues for quite some time figuring you guys were on the right track. God damn. But hey, at least 3DMark 2003 is faster right? Catalyst Maker I really do appreciate your work and involvement here, but damn man, come on. At least Half-Life got fixed. Some people got screwed in the deal. Some people got a bonus. For some nothing changed. Is this what you call a unified driver (cough 9000 bug cough). __________________ [color=White]Abit NF7-S v.2.0 1.5gb ram at 10-3-3-2.5 AMB Barton 2500+ @2215MHz (211x10.5) Dual WD800JB (Raid 0) / WD1600JB / WD800BB Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Logitech Z-680 5.1 speakers Radeon 9800 Pro Sony G420 19"[/color]

May 15, 2003, 09:20 PM	#94
Datagg Back To ATI Join Date: May 2003 Location: Mesa,AZ Posts: 292 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Hey runner, that prob was with me. Iy took me 3 reinstalls to get this driver to work. Each time uninstaling in control panel and then doing the driver remover. 3 times, to finally get anything to move in control panel, hell the first install didnt have the d3d or open gl in it.....and the comp ran like hell...3 installs later it all seems to be fine for now. Though i am down on 3d bence in 2001 almost 800 points, yet up in 2003 about 400. Very strange....anyways thats all I got....Good luck man __________________ --- i7-920 @3.8 CORSAIR XMS3 6GB(3 x 2GB) 2 4870 X2's CrossFireX VelociRaptor Asus P6T Deluxe Thermaltake toughpower 1200 Vista 64 Ultimate

May 15, 2003, 10:52 PM	#102
Datagg Back To ATI Join Date: May 2003 Location: Mesa,AZ Posts: 292 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Catalyst maker, we all thank you for your dedication on all of this. So please dont let one immature person discourage you and what you do here for us. Thank you again sir.. Awesome Job __________________ --- i7-920 @3.8 CORSAIR XMS3 6GB(3 x 2GB) 2 4870 X2's CrossFireX VelociRaptor Asus P6T Deluxe Thermaltake toughpower 1200 Vista 64 Ultimate

May 15, 2003, 10:53 PM	#103
BONEHEAD DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: TEXAS Posts: 183 Rep Power: 0	well i like the new 8.5mmc since that is what i use the most Catylist Maker you should make it known that people have to setup EazyLook before using the mmc i thought my remote broke every time i pushed channel or volume it made tv go into full screen. i did figure that out. Great job __________________ [COLOR=red]Xp Pro Sp2 Amd Athlon 2400+ O/C 2800+ (2250 GHZ)Antec True 550 ps Dragon Orb 3 7000rpm 2 80mm Case fans [/COLOR] [COLOR=red]2 40mm case fans[/COLOR] [COLOR=red]1.5 Gig Ecc Ram Msi KT2 COMBO[/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Adaptec 29320A-R[/COLOR] [COLOR=red]8 Seagate 36 gig ultra 320 10k [/COLOR] [COLOR=red]1 Toshiba SD-M1401 [/COLOR] [COLOR=red]1 Plextor 124TS cdrw [/COLOR] [COLOR=red]2 Nec4551a 1 Samsung TS-H552U 1 Nec3520a[/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Ati AIW Radeon 8500 128mb SoundBlaster X-Fi Platinum[/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Midiland sm7401 5.1 Hp 4C scanner VPR 17'' Lcd[/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Apc Back-ups RS1500[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000][/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000]Taken by the ex maybe to return soon[/COLOR]

May 15, 2003, 10:51 PM	#101
BlackIce DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Just want to say hi to all being my very first post. Just wanted to know if the drivers were installed properly. I have WinXp and under device manager -> display adapters -> properties it says diver version 6.14.10.6343. is this correct? If not, what am i doing wrong? Thanks in advance.

May 15, 2003, 11:06 PM	#106
EcPercy DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Iraq Posts: 1,529 Rep Power: 49	sweet i cant wait to install... maybe i can get just a little more from the ole' 9000 pro

May 15, 2003, 11:10 PM	#107
csl1010 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	Well I am not happy with recent Catalyst 3.4 When i am playing Planetside: Catalyst: 3.0/3.0a - About an hr of gameplay to blue screen 3.1 - Immediately blue screen after logged in and loading the game 3.2 - One to five minutes to blue screen 3.4 - Same as 3.1 The message is: KMOD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED ati3d2ag.dll ------------ Radeon 8500LE ATI Original

May 15, 2003, 11:24 PM	#109
DanielPt DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	about the fps problem ... well i only started having it when i instaled rage3d or control panel not sure :X just installed 3.4 going to try it out with HL now .. wish me luck

May 15, 2003, 11:29 PM	#110
SmoothImmigrant DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	A big problem The new drivers have somehow limited my movement in Quake 3. I have it set to always run, but ever since installing these, I will run for a little bit then walk then run (randomly). I think it has something to do with the rounding error in Q3 with the fps but I don't know what these drivers messed up, as the previous ones didn't affect the movement. I"m also still getting crashing with the Urban Terror mod but I guess I will just reinstall it or delete the q3config file and hope for the best. Hope these work well for the rest of you, bye

May 15, 2003, 11:39 PM	#112
SmoothImmigrant DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	um, thanks gi bro...that worked but what does numlock have to do with it?

May 15, 2003, 11:51 PM	#114
~~mplsek~~ Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	catalyst maker, maybe you can help me with my problem - (this is copy and paste from another forum) Can someone please help me? I've got an AMD Athlong 1.333 (not clocked0 512m ram win xp DX9 (now updated to 9.0a) ATI Radeon 9500 PRO (updated from NVidia Geforce2 GTS - in case that makes a difference) tried all Catalyst from 3.0-3.x (as i type this 3.4 JUST came out - but i have no internet at home, so it will be some time before i get it home and try) Anyway - in F1 2002 (and only this game - most others are ok, GPL won't load, but it's an old game) i get some weird polygon problems - it's hard to describe, like whoever drew the polygons (if they did it with a pen - work with me here) forgot to lift the pen and moved somewhere else on the screen to draw the next one. The cars also have triangular holes all over the place, like someone has moved one of the points from where it's meant to be the sky is also just a few very large polygons - some black Also the background texture (mostly tree texture) sometimes appears across the track (much like adelaide in the original M3 mod release) except this is only since changing vid cards.. does this make sense? - can anyone help please? - much appreciated. Marty

May 15, 2003, 11:59 PM	#116
sanosizo DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Malaysia Posts: 59 Rep Power: 0	does it fix the [ 9100 + pro race driver ] transparent cars? __________________ Athlon XP 1700+ Asus A7S333 512MB PC2700 Kingston DDR Yuan 9800SE softmodded (Omega Cat4.8) Windows XP Pro SP1 Logitech Wingman RumblePad Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP

May 16, 2003, 12:02 AM	#118
Azure DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	hm i can't alt+tab from CS, my screen will go black for a while then it go back to desktop

May 16, 2003, 12:07 AM	#120
CoolZone DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 593 Rep Power: 41 System Specs	9100 No fix yet for radeon 9100 in Toca race Driver __________________ I am sending Lockerz invites. Just PM me !