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Hi everyone. I have a Radeon X1900GT graphics card with an AMD Athlon 3700+ ~2.2GHz processor.
I've been having problems with my 3D DirectX Games as of late. I only notice the artifacting in 3D games that use DirectX. I have noticed the glitches in Silent Hunter 4, Black Penumbra, and Call of Duty 2. Here is a screenshot of the glitch in Silent Hunter 4 that I am experiencing: ![]() You can notice the glitch in the bottom portion of the screenshot. When I move my view around the glitch seems to "shimmer".I have also noticed horizontal/vertical lines that will stem from textures and seemingly run off into the horizon. I don't have any graphics problems in Windows or when running less intensive games such as Hearts of Iron 2. I have done everything I can think of. 1) I have cleaned the dust out of the computer and video card multiple times to rule out overheating. My graphics card according to RivaTuner after playing a 3D game only goes as high as 65 degrees Celsius. 2) I have uninstalled and re-installed the ATI drivers multiple times and cleaning the old drivers out with DriverCleaner.NET. I even went so far as to reformat my computer and reinstall the latest drivers. 3) I have uninstalled and re-installed the latest drivers for my motherboard chipset. (ASUS A895X) 4) I have played around with tweaks using both ATI Tray Tools and the CCC but nothing seems to have an effect. 5) I have reinstalled DirectX making sure I have the latest version which is now March 2008. I have also tried enlisting the help of ATI Support but they were not very helpful. They just told me to upgrade my drivers which I had already done. ![]() Any suggestions on how to fix this? Last edited by whisperedecho; Mar 13, 2008 at 03:42 PM. |
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try to enable the geometry instancing with the ati tray tools.
but that's only a guess.
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Yeah, I already tried doing that but it didn't work.
I just talked to an Engineering friend of mine and he suggested I try downgrading my drivers back to 7.8 because apparently ATI redid their 3D engine around version 7.10. I'll post back here on whether it is successful in fixing the problem or not.
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...just bummin 'round
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maybe try with v sync off or on? opposite whatever you had.
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Tried playing with vsync both on and off. Vsync actually makes the problems worse. I even tried setting AA to 2x in ATI Tray Tools as I saw it suggested somewhere else. It helped a little bit but I was still having problems.
I just finished downgrading to Catalyst version 7.8. I still have to test it out and see if it fixes the problem.
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Well, I just tried playing twice and I noticed a minor glitch in the game so I'm pretty sure the issue is still unsolved. I'm now also having the game crash after playing for about 5 mins or so and I'm not sure if that's because I downgraded the drivers or not.
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"Black Penumbra" is an OpenGL game and can be fixed by using atioglxx.dll from CAT 7.11 as mentioned here:
ATI Catalyst 8.3 Out Now The torch and the map at the beginning of the game are rendered properly then (i tried the demo). I found no playable demo of Silent Hunter 4, but the spike in the screenshot is a floating point miscalculation. Just downloading COD2 demo, what are the actual issues? |
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The issue as far as COD2 was that the textures would artifact like in the second screenshot except on a massive scale to the point where I had to uninstall the game because I could not play it.
The issues when playing SH4 are mainly what you see in the screenshots above. Mainly I get that floating point miscalculation in the second screenshot. Currently, I'm using Catalyst v. 8.3 drivers with ATI Tray Tools. I heard someone in another forum claim that setting Global Anti-Aliasing to 2x helps but after playing SH4 for a couple minutes, the glitches were back. There is no demo currently for SH4. I talked to a friend of mine but he agreed that I've pretty much tried everything. What could I do to fix the floating point miscalculation? I have tried adjusting the Texture LOD in ATI Tray Tools but it didn't have any effect. I have also tried flipping the queue size and enabling/disabling vertical sync and none of those options have had any effect so far. This is really frustrating for me as I can't seem to narrow down the cause of the problem, whether it be from overheating, a problem with Direct3D itself, a driver problem, etc. ![]() I don't think it's overheating though as I've used RivaTuner and my card only goes as high as 65 degrees when I am playing a 3D game where the glitches occur.
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Last edited by whisperedecho; Mar 14, 2008 at 08:10 PM. |
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Judging from german SH4 forum BUG-THREAD SilentHunter4 ab Version 1.4 - Thema entwickelt von eve community
this game and it's patches have been improved to death. I completed the COD2 demo w/o problems with any gfx settings. I'm surprised that R520 and R580 behave that different. Try the option "DX7 renderer" Or rename the executable to disable the profile in CAT 8.3 Here is the full list of "optimised" programs: Code:
Nfs.exe GVOnline.bin tw2.exe elementclient.exe KartRider.exe QQSG.exe TW2008.exe DiRT.exe ForceSingleGPU.exe TW2006.exe game.exe SupremeCommander.exe hl.exe SpiderSolitaire.exe Solitaire.exe PurblePlace.exe Minesweeper.exe Mahjong.exe InkBall.exe Hearts.exe FreeCell.exe chess.exe R6Vegas_Launcher.exe 3dsmax*.exe Crysis*.exe UT3*.exe Wargame-g4wlive.exe hellgate*.exe SinEpisodes.exe iw3mp.exe iw3sp.exe Matrix.exe *Stranglehold.exe Bioshock.exe wic*.exe LostPlanet*.exe sims.icd nhl2007.exe GodFather.exe pc_matador.exe episode.exe AcroRd32.exe XR_3DA.exe Scarface.exe TestDriveUnlimited.exe mm.exe Gothic3.exe HitmanBloodMoney.exe NWN2*.exe TW2007.exe ARX.exe SplinterCell4.exe NFSC_demo.exe NFSC.exe RelicCOH.exe starwars_pc.exe LegoStarWarsII.exe fifa07*.exe fsx.exe primarysurf.exe CoJ.exe FEARXP.exe BF2142*.exe JustCause*.exe nhl06.exe battleofthegods.exe cccprev.exe RomeTW*.exe H5_Game.exe Condemned.exe trl.exe Inventor.exe Dwm.exe legends.exe gt.exe graw*.exe sweaw.exe game.dat Timeshift*.exe nbalive06.exe oblivion.exe x3*.exe gwdev.exe pop3.exe USM.exe BattlefrontII.exe speedDemo.exe speed.exe narnia.exe white.exe KingKong*.exe 3DMark06*.exe RD3.exe Age3.exe Suffering2*.exe Sam2.exe KingKongDemo*.exe BOS.exe [COLOR=Red]CoD2?P_s.exe[/COLOR] Fable.exe EiB.exe Sims2EP2.exe DungeonSiege2.exe fs9.exe AFR-FriendlyD3D.exe FEARspdemo.exe FEAR.exe ACTOFWAR*.exe Ehshell.exe X2-Demo.exe X2.exe tribesv_?pdemo_en.exe Swat4SPDemo.exe PandoraMultiPlayerDemo.exe Sims2EP1.exe PCMark05.exe PCMark04.exe PainGame.exe Speed2demo.exe MaxPayne2Demo.exe FFXiWinBench.exe FFXiBench.exe Biademo.exe Tiger 2004.exe Snowblind-Demo.exe Snowblind.exe BreedSPD.exe Breed.exe XPANDRALLY.exe TV_CD_DVD.exe TRAOD*.exe Battlefront.exe Sims2.exe ShadowVault.exe patriots.exe thrones.exe Pariah.exe nba2005.exe mohpa.exe GW.exe pol.exe Driv3r.exe DFX.exe Bia.exe TechDemo.exe aquamark.exe w40k.exe pop2.exe FarCry.exe WoW.exe EverQuest2.exe Speed2.exe Lithtech.exe Swat4.exe SwgClient_r.exe SplinterCell3.exe Painkiller.exe MaxPayne2.exe FlatOutdemo.exe CMR5.exe BfVietnam.exe LockOn.exe 3DMark05.exe 3DMark03.exe 3DMark2001SE.exe 3DMark2001.exe BF2.exe Morrowind.exe TW2005.exe TW2004.exe halo.exe hl2.exe UT2004.exe UT2003.exe RD2D.exe RD2.exe CT3.exe pop.exe RaceDriver.exe SplinterCell2.exe SplinterCell.exe |
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where'd that list come from
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DriverHeaven Junior Member
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I think I have narrowed down the problem to Direct3D.
When I run dxdiag and do the Direct3D test, the cube spins very fast. I read on another forum that this is because I have a high-performance driver. The cube has never spun fast for me before. I had recently installed the March 2008 DirectX update so I was hoping that this might solve my problems but I just played SH4 and it did not. The glitches are still prevalent. I am pretty sure that Direct3D is the problem because when I ran a stress test on my machine the other night, part of the test was to run stress tests with Direct3D graphics and I noticed minor glitches similar to the second screenshot with textures stretching out. I am Googling Direct3D corruption to see if there is any way around this but do you guys know anything about Direct3D corruption or what could be causing it?
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Where is this ForceSingleGPU.exe located?
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I just re-opened my ticket at ATI support about this issue.
I found what could be the cause of the glitches. Whenever I install ATI drivers I always get an "Unknown Device". ![]() You can see the Unknown Device highlighted above. When I checked the properties for it, I found the following results: ![]() ![]() ![]() I cannot reinstall the drivers because apparently there are no drivers installed with this "device". Has anyone encountered this?
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Yeah, I don't have a crossfire system set up. My graphics card is capable of Crossfire though.
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I fixed the unknown driver issue by installing the WDM drivers. This seemed to help out a lot in reducing corruption in the graphics but I noticed after about an hour of play in SH4 that the glitches came back so I don't know if it's just stress on the card that causes the glitches or what but hopefully I will figure that out soon.
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hello, I have the same problem as you with my x1900gt rev2. In some games I could fix it enabling any kind of AA and then disabling it.
After trying many ways for fix this Im thinking that this could be a memory overheating problem. PS: after researching many forums I found one in wich they say that the problem is related to the power supply. They say that the x1900gt need 22-25A in the 12V line (mine is 18A). Last edited by drwire; Mar 16, 2008 at 11:25 PM. |
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psu can be going bad ya, maybe check if you can borrow another or underclock the card (or cpu)
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I noticed that the artifacts start appearing when the card reaches 60 degrees Celsius. It normally runs around 53 degrees. I can still run games that aren't too intensive like RTS games. Just can't play first-person shooters or anything like that. Oh well.
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I solved the problem.
My card had lots of dust behind the fan section. I was able to force some of it out through the fan but in order to get all of it out, I am going to have to detach the cooling section from the card. Once I cleaned out some of the dust, my card was running at about 46 degrees at idle instead of 53 like it was before. I also set up a fan profile using RivaTuner to run the fan at 100% duty cycle. When I ran the fan at 100% I got no artifacts while running ATI Tool for 2 minutes 30 seconds. I am now able to play Company of Heroes with no glitches! ![]() So it looks like it was overheating!
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