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ATI Catalyst 8.3 Out Now

This section provides information on resolved issues in this release of the ATI Catalyst™ Software Suite for Windows XP. These include:
  • Call of Duty: Enabling AA in the Catalyst™ Control Center no longer results in corruption being noticed. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32582
  • Call of Juarez: Intermittent flashing textures are no longer noticed when playing the game with CrossFire™ enabled on systems containing an ATI Radeon™ HD 38x0 series of product. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32579
  • Call of Juarez: Setting the game level with Optimal Quality and high in-game settings no longer results in the game level being blank. Further details can be found in topic number 737-30591
  • DaTang: Texture errors are no longer noticed when attempting to select a character or in the game map. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32575
  • Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter: Enabling CrossFire™ an attempting to run either application no longer results in the applications exiting to the Windows XP desktop. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32583
  • STALKER: Shadows are now being rendered properly when CrossFire™ is enabled along with AA being enabled at 4x and Full Dynamic Lighting also being enabled. Further details can be found in topic number 737-31597
  • TianXia2: Launching the game on a system containing an ATI Radeon™ HD 36x0/38x0 series of product no longer results in the Windows XP operating system rebooting. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32578
  • World of Warcraft: Connecting an Apple 30" display device to a system containing an ATI Radeon™ HD 26x0 series of product and running Windows XP no longer results in poor performance and intermittent flashing display. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32576
  • World of Warcraft: Playing the game in a windowed mode under Windows XP no longer results in the game failing to respond when attempting to go full screen. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32586
  • World of Warcraft: Poor performance and flashing on screen are no longer noticed. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32584
  • After installing the graphics driver an error message is no longer displayed when attempting to launch DirectX based games when using an ATI AGP product. Further details can be found in topic number [COLOR=#003c28]737-31625[/COLOR]
  • Setting the desktop resolution to 1280x1024 and using PowerDVD to play an HD-DVD or Blu-ray title no longer results in corruption being noticed when using an ATI Radeon™ HD 2400 series of product. Further details can be found in topic number 737-31171
  • On certain products, changing display resolution while playing back High Definition content no longer results in instability. It is recommended to set appropriate resolution while playback is stopped. Further details can be found in topic number 737-31172
  • Cyberlink: Playing a DVD title on a system containing an ATI Radeon™ HD 2400 series no longer results in corruption being noticed. Further details can be found in topic number 737-31173
  • Disabling the blackmambo driver or unplugging the power source no longer results in the Vista operating system failing. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32551
  • The antenna signal strength is no longer reported by Vista Media Center as low. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32552
  • The Windows XP Professional x64 Edition operating system no longer reboots when installing the T200 driver. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32553
  • Setting the DPI to 120 in the Display Properties no longer results in the combo box being cut-off. Further details can be found in topic number 737-31566
  • .NET Framework an Unhandled Exception error no longer occurs when upon booting or re-booting the system. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32554
  • The information provided in the 3D Help for preview changes no longer provides the incorrect information on where the current settings and new settings are displayed when using the Windows Vista operating system. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32657
  • The Catalyst™ Control Center aspects are no longer missing for the secondary extended display when hot unplugging and hot plugging the display device. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32555
  • Native CrossFire™ can now be enabled when the primary display device is connected to the master card using a CV or TV. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32556
  • Running the Spanish version of the Windows operating system no longer results in the Catalyst™ Control Center option failing to be available when right-clicking the Windows desktop menu bar. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32557
  • The lower portion of the Catalyst™ Control Center is no longer cropped when changing the display resolution from 640x480 to 1920x1200. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32559
  • The display resolution of 3840x2400 13Hz is now available on system running Windows Vista and having a display device connected that can support this resolution. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32560
  • The help files for both Component Video and Avivo have been updated to reflect supported products for these options. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32561
  • The video preview in the Catalyst™ Control Center->Avivo Video->Basic Quality no longer disappears when toggling between different option within the Catalyst™ Control Center. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32563
  • Catalyst™ Control Center->Display options->Force TV detection: The text is no longer cropped at 144dpi settings. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32566
  • The advanced color slider values are now changing when clicking the Up/Down spin buttons in the Catalyst™ Control Center->Avivo2. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32569
  • Catalyst™ Control Center: Setting the skin to either Crimson or Classic no longer results in OverDrive option failing to display a clear image. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32572
  • Enabling CrossFire™ followed by hot-unplugging a display device and then hot plugging the display device back in no longer results in the CrossFire™ option in the Catalyst™ Control Center being greyed out. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32573
  • The video output window size is now set correctly. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32574
  • Setting the display resolution to 1920x1200 or 1920x1080 on a system running Windows XP and containing an ATI Radeon™ HD 3100/3200 series of products, followed by enabling clone mode or extended desktop mode no longer results in horizontal line corruption being noticed when playing an SD DVD. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32658
  • Connecting a TV as the primary display device on a system containing either an ATI Radeon™ HD 2400 or 34x0 series of product no longer results in the TV displaying green flashes during the welcome screen. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32577
  • Connecting both a CRT and DFP display device to a system running Windows XP and enabling CrossFire™ no longer results in the DFP display device failing to display an image. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32581
  • Catalyst™ Control Center-->3D-->All settings-->Setting the slider to Quality no longer results in the Wait for vertical refresh failing. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32587
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Wow that's a heck of a lot of bug fixes, performance improvements & new features...worth a shot I suppose.

"After installing the graphics driver an error message is no longer displayed when attempting to launch DirectX based games when using an ATI AGP product. Further details can be found in topic number [COLOR=#003c28]737-31625[/COLOR]"
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#X$!&£X.X!

That's all I can say.

This completely screwed everything up. My 3DMark06 score went from 11000 down to 8000..... everything is sluggish, nothing works as it should.

Tried to install 8.2 again and now CCC crashes everytime I try to start it.

I'm NOT happy.
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I cannot fucking believe these 8.3s will not install in a 3850 AGP. "Device not recognized". ATI you never cease to amaze me.
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Does anyone have a link to the full 8.2 standard suite for XP Pro/Home? CCC worked fine before I tried 8.3 but now I've tried to uninstall and reinstall the three 8.2-packages with driver, ccc and wdm and ccc just crashes.

This is kinda sad.. here I have hardware that should be perfect with these drivers and it just doesn't work..

Well, even without getting into CCC to change settings I'm back to 11500 3DMark06 with 8.2

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I cannot fucking believe these 8.3s will not install in a 3850 AGP. "Device not recognized". ATI you never cease to amaze me.
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Um did you used driverheaven cleaner? You should run iobit adv one care program also in safemode to you be suprise how well it works.
Yes, but how will it help recognize my video card? And why do the drivers from Sapphire work?
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Yes, but how will it help recognize my video card? And why do the drivers from Sapphire work?
AGP versions from HD2600 up, are not officially supported by ATI! It´s up to the 3rd party makers, to put on their sites the drivers with the updated .inf files so that the card is recognized! if you want copy the inf information from previous working drivers, and place it on the on the 8.3, that should do the trick!
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Any idea what might cause this MAJOR drop in performance with 8.3? I've now tried it three times, with full cleanups between every installation, and I get the same result.. and I get back to normal with 8.2 again, every time.

In some aspects when I run the benchmark I can see the stuttering and FPS down to 5, something that never even happened with my old X850 in 3Dmark06. I noticed that the CPU score drops with 35% when I have 8.3 installed compared to 8.2 so it seems there is some major bug in these drivers that eats up CPU performance..
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AGP versions from HD2600 up, are not officially supported by ATI! It´s up to the 3rd party makers, to put on their sites the drivers with the updated .inf files so that the card is recognized! if you want copy the inf information from previous working drivers, and place it on the on the 8.3, that should do the trick!
It doesn't. I even tried installing manually right from the unwrapped 8.3 and still have the old version. This was after a thorough deinstall.
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I got a BSOD after the install, so decided to do a clean install as my system was in need of a fresh XP install anyway.

Same thing !

Reinstalled the OS again (3rd time) and went back to the older 8.2s. Everything works fine (well as fine as ive had).

I have had a terrible year with ATI cards tbh, with games not working, stability issues, and now even the drivers don't work right. so i have just ordered a 8800 GTS, ive had enough

ATI, you really need to get your act together, ever since AMD took over the whole thing is going down the pan.
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Noticed no problem installing 8.3 over 8.2 on XP here with a 3870. I threw in XP as a secondary installation a couple of days ago. I'll test some games and see if anything odd comes up. Edit: nope, no problems.

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Nothing but system shut down after system shut down. Back to the AGP hotfix again.

Still could not play Total War series Call of Duty nothig but shut downs.
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My X1950PRO AGP has run fine since Catalyst 7.10.

I really don't know what to say about your issues with anything related to 7.10 or newer.

I seriously recommend running a cab.cleaner in driver cleaner pro followed by the removal of any driver components left over by the official un-install. Un-installing a driver doesn't mean the driver removes all the files...some get left behind, get mixed up when you install a new driver and causes conflict between the two.

1) use the ati un-installer tool provided in "add/remove programs".
2) boot into safe mode.
3) 'right-click' on "my computer" and select "manage".
4) un-install any display drivers you see.
5) launch driver cleaner pro 1.5.
6) run an "sp2.cab" & "driver.cab" clean (It will take up to 5 minutes).
7) select any "ati" options in the list and click on "start".
8) reboot in to normal windows mode
9) install the latest ati driver (NO CCC - seriously...its the biggest piece of c*** ever), slows down your boot-up time, consumes more unnecessary processes.
10) reboot when prompted
11) install "ati tray tools" configuring the installation to suit your graphic card
12) select "tools and options" followed by "smartgart" and disable "fast writes". being an AGP system it aint supported. reboot.
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Found this for those who are having problems. Fixed mine with the 8.3s. I would say thanks to ATI, but find it hard when this wasn't even announced. Oh wait, I just did .

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Installed right over my 8.2's without a hitch, seem to be a bit of an improvement...
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anyone that have tested the new hotfix????
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My new HIS 3850 shows two problems:

1) Crysis demo runs like a slide show (1440 mode) - videos (.sfd) as well, sound stutter.

2) frequently greenish/magenta shaded (white) font display in this forum

3) drag CCC (hydravision installed) see link:

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1) release notes reads:
"This release of Catalyst™ introduces Tessellation support in the Catalyst™ driver for the ATI Radeon™ HD 3800 Series of products."
as opposed to ATI Developer: Tools - AMD GPU MeshMapper
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Requirements for previewing with displacement and tessellation:
  • ATI Radeon HD 2000 series or later
  • NOTE: Tessellation will first be supported in the March Catalyst driver release."
2) As aforementioned misc. OpenGL apps stopped working sice CAT 7.12
After checking atioglxx.dll with "GPUCapsViewer" it appears that ATI removed more than 20 extensions!
Code:
new since CAT 7.12: 
GL_AMD_performance_monitor
GL_ATI_meminfo
GL_EXT_copy_texture
GL_EXT_gpu_program_parameters
GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil
GL_EXT_subtexture
GL_EXT_texture_sRGB
GL_KTX_buffer_region
WGL_ARB_buffer_region
WGL_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB

nuked after CAT 7.11:
GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow
GL_ARB_vertex_blend
GL_ATI_element_array
GL_ATI_map_object_buffer
GL_ATI_shader_texture_lod
GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once
GL_ATI_vertex_array_object
GL_ATI_vertex_attrib_array_object
GL_ATI_vertex_streams
GL_ATIX_texture_env_combine3
GL_ATIX_texture_env_route
GL_ATIX_vertex_shader_output_point_size
GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint
GL_EXT_vertex_shader
GL_HP_occlusion_test
GL_EXT_vertex_shader
GL_NV_occlusion_query
GL_S3_s3tc
GL_SGI_color_matrix
GL_SGIS_multitexture
GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp
GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays
At least they could have told users about that



3) 3DMark06 SM3 test is borked by solarisation.
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anyone that have tested the new hotfix????
I just tried it and it works fine so far as for any improvements i dont know yet i did notice slightly lower framerates in Gun metal benchmark 2 but nothing to moan about
I cant believe they still havent got AGP support in the released driver i cant believe that we still have to use a "hotfix" still better than nothing i guess
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I tried the 8.3s last night on my machine. No problems at all and I got a nice performance boost over my previous drivers in a few games

Just did a normal install over the top of the previous drivers.
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Seems like I'm the only one getting a major decrease in performance. I wish I knew why.
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1) release notes reads:
"This release of Catalyst™ introduces Tessellation support in the Catalyst™ driver for the ATI Radeon™ HD 3800 Series of products."
as opposed to ATI Developer: Tools - AMD GPU MeshMapper
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Requirements for previewing with displacement and tessellation:
  • ATI Radeon HD 2000 series or later
  • NOTE: Tessellation will first be supported in the March Catalyst driver release."
2) As aforementioned misc. OpenGL apps stopped working sice CAT 7.12
After checking atioglxx.dll with "GPUCapsViewer" it appears that ATI removed more than 20 extensions!
Code:
new since CAT 7.12: 
GL_AMD_performance_monitor
GL_ATI_meminfo
GL_EXT_copy_texture
GL_EXT_gpu_program_parameters
GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil
GL_EXT_subtexture
GL_EXT_texture_sRGB
GL_KTX_buffer_region
WGL_ARB_buffer_region
WGL_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB

nuked after CAT 7.11:
GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow
GL_ARB_vertex_blend
GL_ATI_element_array
GL_ATI_map_object_buffer
GL_ATI_shader_texture_lod
GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once
GL_ATI_vertex_array_object
GL_ATI_vertex_attrib_array_object
GL_ATI_vertex_streams
GL_ATIX_texture_env_combine3
GL_ATIX_texture_env_route
GL_ATIX_vertex_shader_output_point_size
GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint
GL_EXT_vertex_shader
GL_HP_occlusion_test
GL_EXT_vertex_shader
GL_NV_occlusion_query
GL_S3_s3tc
GL_SGI_color_matrix
GL_SGIS_multitexture
GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp
GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays
At least they could have told users about that



3) 3DMark06 SM3 test is borked by solarisation.


'GL_EXT_vertex_shader' well that going missing doesnt sound right at all... but the notes always mention doom3 & ETQW running fine for the most part.. & 100% work for me on omega7.12
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'GL_EXT_vertex_shader' well that going missing doesnt sound right at all... but the notes always mention doom3 & ETQW running fine for the most part.. & 100% work for me on omega7.12
Found another (overaged) extensions checker "gluxinfo" at Sylvain Lefebvre home page

here it reads with 7.12
[DEVL] GL_EXT_vertex_shader
the extension is available but not declared as present by the driver (extension in development).

I will make another check with tool from Realtech VR later...


If s.o. cares, here are some apps borked since CAT 7.12:

Globe 3D
Globe_3D - Ada and GL 3D engine
Water simulation, ambient_occlusion
Alex's Stuff
The Valley 1.1
SpeedTree® | Demo Downloads
Bunny Deformation
tum.3D - Computer Graphics and Visualization
Skinning Mesh Animations demo
Skinning Mesh Animations demo
ATI SDK March 2006 - Ray-tracing, Mandelbrot, HDR
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Normally I wouldn't think about buying an Nvidia card next time but I will do that because of what ATI did with the OpenGL driver since Cat 7.12.
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I dont understand nothing...I cant install them in my Ati Hd 2600 AGP?
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I dont understand nothing...I cant install them in my Ati Hd 2600 AGP?
HD2600AGP cards are not supported by the regular drivers because the card type is not an official ATI product. Some card manufacturers decided to create AGP editions of PCIe-only ATI products using a PCIe to AGP bridge chip and are supplying modified drivers themselves. ATI have however been putting out unofficial packages for AGP cards that you can use without having to wait for the card manufacturer to update. The driver packages coming from the respective card manufacturer might still be the safest bet, but this way there is something else to try. The 8.3 AGP package can be found on the following page:
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well i just tried that water simulation, works on omega 7.10 on this 2k, doesnt work on omega 7.12 on the xp, giving the opengl dll error

well at least 7.10 had a big gl improvement, especially in ETQW
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I have installed Catalyst 8.3 and see no issues till now. All games with me work fine with a good performance improvement over Catalyst 8.2

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