Radeon Omega Drivers 3.8.413 (Cat 7.9.1)

Octopuss · Oct 8, 2007, 01:22 AM

7.9 official drivers work fine, so it must be something on Omega's side

Not sure what 7.9.1 are though, because on ATI's web the last version is from 10th septermber.

But please dig into this and solve

Cyper · Oct 8, 2007, 01:33 AM

To the people with Direct3D errors.

The new ATI drivers are affecting the way you overclock.

I've had this problem since the 7.9's first came out. Once installed my Direct3D would just stop working all together. Once Omega released his I thought i'd give them a try, however I set BIOS settings to default just for testing. The drivers seemed to worked fine. I then set my BIOS settings back to default and my Direct3D had stopped working again. Setting things back to default and turning things up one at a time I have found that it is the CPU.

Before I was clocked at 200MHz with a multiple of 11 (setting me to 2.0GHz). Now I can not clock at anything but 166MHz with a multiple of 11 (setting me to 1.84).

Why it is doing this I have no idea however I have tested it to be true.

Also reverting back to 7.8's I can clock at my default speeds and Direct3D works fine. Again, no idea why this happens. The new drivers must be putting more stress on systems than previous ones.

Octopuss · Oct 8, 2007, 02:21 AM

Ok I looked in the .inf files and 1650 PRO isn't there at all. Please add

I sent you mail before weekend.

Da_Jewish_Fonzy · Oct 8, 2007, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyper

To the people with Direct3D errors.

The new ATI drivers are affecting the way you overclock.

I've had this problem since the 7.9's first came out. Once installed my Direct3D would just stop working all together. Once Omega released his I thought i'd give them a try, however I set BIOS settings to default just for testing. The drivers seemed to worked fine. I then set my BIOS settings back to default and my Direct3D had stopped working again. Setting things back to default and turning things up one at a time I have found that it is the CPU.

Before I was clocked at 200MHz with a multiple of 11 (setting me to 2.0GHz). Now I can not clock at anything but 166MHz with a multiple of 11 (setting me to 1.84).

Why it is doing this I have no idea however I have tested it to be true.

Also reverting back to 7.8's I can clock at my default speeds and Direct3D works fine. Again, no idea why this happens. The new drivers must be putting more stress on systems than previous ones.

I can overclock fine with the official 7.9's.

Cyper · Oct 8, 2007, 01:11 PM

And you're having errors when running the Direct3D tests with 7.9's installed?

Liqourice · Oct 9, 2007, 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Da_Jewish_Hornet

Correct me if I'm wrong but these omega drivers are based on 7.9 right?

7.9 hotfix. Haven't tried the hotfix from ATI so I don't know how that works. Since it is based on 7.9 it baffles me a bit that the original driver is faster though, I don't know why. My gaming has never been as smooth and with such good performance as it has now.

I also wonder why I don't have the same kind of problem as the other AGP card owners have.

smoke044 · Oct 9, 2007, 05:27 AM

Hi, I just installed the new omega drivers on my win xp desktop with x1600agp card and restarted. After doing so my PC stays at the start up HP Splash Screen and will not go any further. It doesnt seem to respond to f1<setup>, f10<system recover> or f8. Any help would be greatly appreciated im kind of a nub =./

Im posting this on my sisters labtop to avoid any confusion, cant get my desktop to reboot. Would love to see the "Restart with last known good configeration msg but it doesnt go that far =/.

Dyre Straits · Oct 9, 2007, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smoke044

Hi, I just installed the new omega drivers on my win xp desktop with x1600agp card and restarted. After doing so my PC stays at the start up HP Splash Screen and will not go any further. It doesnt seem to respond to f1<setup>, f10<system recover> or f8. Any help would be greatly appreciated im kind of a nub =./

Im posting this on my sisters labtop to avoid any confusion, cant get my desktop to reboot. Would love to see the "Restart with last known good configeration msg but it doesnt go that far =/.

Greetings and welcome to DriverHeaven!

There are known issues with any Catalyst Driver from 7.7 to the current versions and any AGP card. You need to be using 7.6 version or earlier until this issue is resolved by ATI. No modded drivers will have a fix for it either.

smoke044 · Oct 9, 2007, 05:57 AM

Yes i understand that but I cant access my pc to revert the settings =/ it wont reboot, just stuck at the splash screen and wont go any further. Would really appreciate any help on how to get into the xp settings so i can reboot with last good configeration.

Dyre Straits · Oct 9, 2007, 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smoke044

Yes i understand that but I cant access my pc to revert the settings =/ it wont reboot, just stuck at the splash screen and wont go any further. Would really appreciate any help on how to get into the xp settings so i can reboot with last good configeration.

Have you tried unplugging it from the outlet for a couple of minutes and then plug it back in and try to boot?

Also, make sure there's no disk in the CD/DVD drive.

cox · Oct 9, 2007, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smoke044

Yes i understand that but I cant access my pc to revert the settings =/ it wont reboot, just stuck at the splash screen and wont go any further. Would really appreciate any help on how to get into the xp settings so i can reboot with last good configeration.

restart keeping press F8 pressed..you will have the options to do what you want

Octopuss · Oct 9, 2007, 01:28 PM

Anyone else having problems emailing Omega? I got my mail returned as undeliverable.

Audi · Oct 10, 2007, 04:12 AM

What is the best way to change the videodriver?
I have a NGQ 7.3 now and i wont change it to the new Omega!
Whats the best method?
Thanks

drivetheory · Oct 11, 2007, 07:16 PM

Incompatible drivers:
ATI 7.9
ATI 7.9.1 ('7.9 hotfix')
Omega 3.8.413

OS: WinXP SP2 (x86)
VID: Radeon X1950 Pro 512MB (AGP 8x)
MBD: Intel D865PERL

If the afore mentioned drivers are installed, the system tries to reboot after install, the system begins to load devices (can see this via the /sos switch in boot.ini), the system checks the attached disks for errors, THEN my LCDs immediately go into the "no signal" state, they stay there for 3-5 seconds, then they turn back on and i see the BIOS POST'n all over again... this cycle repeats non-stop if i try to boot to normal mode...

Rebooted to safe mode, deleted/uninstalled video controllers, rebooted, uninstalled drivers, rebooted, reinstalled ATI 7.7 drivers (ATI's 7.8 literally gives me 1/2 framerates in MANY games compared to 7.7, didn't try Omega's 7.4 modded drivers, 7.6 gives same framerate as 7.7)

All other drivers for devices are up to date.

ATI has stated in tech support correspondence that 7.8 & 7.9 are not 100% compatible with AGP cards...

higgledyhiggles · Oct 14, 2007, 09:28 AM

on a side note, since i`ve gone back to 7.6 omegas (curse my agp). whats the reasoning behing the wdm driver bits. does it matter which version you have, latest=best or should the drivers and wdm match. ?
cheers,
higgles.

Maede · Oct 16, 2007, 05:40 PM

I have a bug to post: With the newest omega drivers (Catalyst 7.9.1), my TV won't work. The PC regonices it fine but the screen stays black.
It works fin with the older driver (Catalyst 7.1)

User61 · Oct 17, 2007, 01:07 AM

First of all, thanks for the great drivers. I have the latest Omega driver, using ATi Mobility X1300 with my Dell Inspiron 6400, XP Pro, 2GB RAM. No previous versions of any drivers (Omega of ATi) existed as this is a new, clean install of XP Pro. Resolution at 1280x800, 60Hz.

My problem is this:

My laptop screen will automatically turn off if I close the lid (I have set Windows XP to 'do nothing' when I close the lid so that my XP will not go into hibernation, sleep or get shut down). I realised that my desktop icons on the right side of my desktop will get displaced about 3 columns to the left whenever I close and reopen the lid. Additionally, the last two rows of icons at the bottom of my screen will get displaced one row to the bottom, so that the last icon will go straight to the top of the next column and the second last icon will become the last icon at the bottom now. My screenshot will provide a better picture.

I got a quick sneak peek when I closed my laptop lid and realised that the screen resolution briefly got changed before it goes off. I guess this is why the icons got displaced. How do I fix this, if it is possible to fix it myself? I didn't have this problem with my previous install of XP Pro on this laptop when I was using the official ATi drivers. I hope I don't have to go back to using them!

Dyre Straits · Oct 17, 2007, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maede

I have a bug to post: With the newest omega drivers (Catalyst 7.9.1), my TV won't work. The PC regonices it fine but the screen stays black.
It works fin with the older driver (Catalyst 7.1)

Welcome to DriverHeaven!

This may be related to the output resolution and refresh rates settings you're using. Be sure to reduce the resolution to 1024x768 and 60Hz and then try again. If still having problems, let us know.

We also need to know exactly which TV and connection type you're using.

***Omegadrive*** · Oct 17, 2007, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by User61

First of all, thanks for the great drivers. I have the latest Omega driver, using ATi Mobility X1300 with my Dell Inspiron 6400, XP Pro, 2GB RAM. No previous versions of any drivers (Omega of ATi) existed as this is a new, clean install of XP Pro. Resolution at 1280x800, 60Hz.

My problem is this:

My laptop screen will automatically turn off if I close the lid (I have set Windows XP to 'do nothing' when I close the lid so that my XP will not go into hibernation, sleep or get shut down). I realised that my desktop icons on the right side of my desktop will get displaced about 3 columns to the left whenever I close and reopen the lid. Additionally, the last two rows of icons at the bottom of my screen will get displaced one row to the bottom, so that the last icon will go straight to the top of the next column and the second last icon will become the last icon at the bottom now. My screenshot will provide a better picture.

I got a quick sneak peek when I closed my laptop lid and realised that the screen resolution briefly got changed before it goes off. I guess this is why the icons got displaced. How do I fix this, if it is possible to fix it myself? I didn't have this problem with my previous install of XP Pro on this laptop when I was using the official ATi drivers. I hope I don't have to go back to using them!

Hmm, I think it has to do with the Power Saving settings, but as I said in the FAQ, I can't guarantee full functionality on laptops, I only provide a way to install the drivers on them and the tweaks I add are for games, I don't touch anything that has to do with power savings and stuff. Anyway, I think you should wait till next release, I'm already testing a LOT of changes I made for the 7.10, specially a re-write of the laptop settings for better compatibility (but still can't guarantee anything).

User61 · Oct 17, 2007, 04:31 AM

When can we expect the next omega release for 7.10?

I'll weigh that in in my consideration whether to uninstall omega drivers now and install the official version while waiting for the next omega drivers OR patiently wait for it with my current omega drivers in place.

Ecology · Oct 17, 2007, 05:16 AM

same problem here
with omega 7.9.1 can't play any direct3d game
opengl works

Maede · Oct 17, 2007, 06:26 AM

Quote:

This may be related to the output resolution and refresh rates settings you're using. Be sure to reduce the resolution to 1024x768 and 60Hz and then try again. If still having problems, let us know.

Hmm with the older drivers, it works with every refresh rate and resolution. The TV goes to 800x600 and 60Hz automatically if I activate it. I can set it afterwards to 1024x768 an up to 100Hz. Its a Panasonic TV, TXW32... somewhat, and older one bit 100Hz.

another bug: With the new driver I can set my Monitor (old 21' Miro) only to 75Hz, with the old one to 80Hz.

Specs:
Sapphire X1950pro Ultimate
Opteron 180
Asus A8R32 MPV Deluxe
Kingston memorys 1500mb
Enermax Liberty 630

Opalen · Oct 17, 2007, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ecology

same problem here
with omega 7.9.1 can't play any direct3d game
opengl works

same problem here ... orginal catalyst 7.8 7.9 7.10 don't work either

holung · Oct 19, 2007, 01:06 PM

"[+] Added a new pixel perfect 4:3 resolution for 1080p LCDs (1440x1080@60hz) for those games/companies that offer no widescreen support."

That means the driver supports pillar boxing for those old games which do not support widescreen resolutions? Does centered timings/fixed aspect ratio work? It just stretches everything to fill up the whole panel. Help!

Pluvious · Oct 19, 2007, 02:15 PM

Any word on the x1950 fix?.. I can't get any drivers to work with my card. I'm using your old 330 build.. 7.1's! Nothing past that will work.

Crawdaddy79 · Oct 19, 2007, 04:42 PM

Can't thank you enough for these drivers, Omega.

Been a fan of yours since the Voodoo days - lost touch between Catalyst 5. something and 7.4, but I'm back and will probably never use ATI's driver package ever again.

***Omegadrive*** · Oct 19, 2007, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holung

"[+] Added a new pixel perfect 4:3 resolution for 1080p LCDs (1440x1080@60hz) for those games/companies that offer no widescreen support."

That means the driver supports pillar boxing for those old games which do not support widescreen resolutions? Does centered timings/fixed aspect ratio work? It just stretches everything to fill up the whole panel. Help!

You have to make sure your LCD TV is set to "Normal" aspect, not "Wide" or "Panoramic", for my LCD there is a button that switches between the modes, "Normal" will always switch between the correct 4:3 and 16:9 aspect radios.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pluvious

Any word on the x1950 fix?.. I can't get any drivers to work with my card. I'm using your old 330 build.. 7.1's! Nothing past that will work.

Did some test with the 7.10 drivers, no go, it seems this bug will continue until ATI fixes it, sorry.

Pluvious · Oct 20, 2007, 01:56 PM

Thanks for looking into it.. it's a shame I have to use year old 3rd party drivers to have my card work. If I ever buy a video card again.. (doubtful) I'll be sure to switch to Nvidia.. that's for sure.

krvolok · Oct 23, 2007, 11:28 AM

How are these on Sapphire x1950pro AGP - do they even work for anyone out there? I'd really like to give them a try, but I'm still hesitating due to many negative reports. :s

Pluvious · Oct 23, 2007, 12:27 PM

Per my sig.. that's the card I have and I can only use 7.1's.

Oct 8, 2007, 01:33 AM	#62
Cyper DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	To the people with Direct3D errors. The new ATI drivers are affecting the way you overclock. I've had this problem since the 7.9's first came out. Once installed my Direct3D would just stop working all together. Once Omega released his I thought i'd give them a try, however I set BIOS settings to default just for testing. The drivers seemed to worked fine. I then set my BIOS settings back to default and my Direct3D had stopped working again. Setting things back to default and turning things up one at a time I have found that it is the CPU. Before I was clocked at 200MHz with a multiple of 11 (setting me to 2.0GHz). Now I can not clock at anything but 166MHz with a multiple of 11 (setting me to 1.84). Why it is doing this I have no idea however I have tested it to be true. Also reverting back to 7.8's I can clock at my default speeds and Direct3D works fine. Again, no idea why this happens. The new drivers must be putting more stress on systems than previous ones. Last edited by Cyper; Oct 8, 2007 at 01:39 AM.

Oct 9, 2007, 05:27 AM	#67
smoke044 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Serious Problem Hi, I just installed the new omega drivers on my win xp desktop with x1600agp card and restarted. After doing so my PC stays at the start up HP Splash Screen and will not go any further. It doesnt seem to respond to f1<setup>, f10<system recover> or f8. Any help would be greatly appreciated im kind of a nub =./ Im posting this on my sisters labtop to avoid any confusion, cant get my desktop to reboot. Would love to see the "Restart with last known good configeration msg but it doesnt go that far =/.

Oct 17, 2007, 05:16 AM	#81
Ecology DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 47 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	same problem here with omega 7.9.1 can't play any direct3d game opengl works __________________ to perennial memory:

Oct 19, 2007, 02:15 PM	#85
Pluvious Elisha = hottie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA CA. SF Bay Area Posts: 1,328 Rep Power: 42	Any word on the x1950 fix?.. I can't get any drivers to work with my card. I'm using your old 330 build.. 7.1's! Nothing past that will work. __________________

Oct 20, 2007, 01:56 PM	#88
Pluvious Elisha = hottie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA CA. SF Bay Area Posts: 1,328 Rep Power: 42	Thanks for looking into it.. it's a shame I have to use year old 3rd party drivers to have my card work. If I ever buy a video card again.. (doubtful) I'll be sure to switch to Nvidia.. that's for sure. __________________

Oct 8, 2007, 01:22 AM	#61
Octopuss DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	7.9 official drivers work fine, so it must be something on Omega's side Not sure what 7.9.1 are though, because on ATI's web the last version is from 10th septermber. But please dig into this and solve

Oct 8, 2007, 02:21 AM	#63
Octopuss DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	Ok I looked in the .inf files and 1650 PRO isn't there at all. Please add I sent you mail before weekend.

Oct 8, 2007, 01:11 PM	#65
Cyper DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	And you're having errors when running the Direct3D tests with 7.9's installed?

Oct 9, 2007, 05:57 AM	#69
smoke044 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Yes i understand that but I cant access my pc to revert the settings =/ it wont reboot, just stuck at the splash screen and wont go any further. Would really appreciate any help on how to get into the xp settings so i can reboot with last good configeration.

Oct 9, 2007, 01:28 PM	#72
Octopuss DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	Anyone else having problems emailing Omega? I got my mail returned as undeliverable.

Oct 10, 2007, 04:12 AM	#73
Audi DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 29 Rep Power: 0	What is the best way to change the videodriver? I have a NGQ 7.3 now and i wont change it to the new Omega! Whats the best method? Thanks

Oct 11, 2007, 07:16 PM	#74
drivetheory DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: FL, USA Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Incompatible drivers: ATI 7.9 ATI 7.9.1 ('7.9 hotfix') Omega 3.8.413 OS: WinXP SP2 (x86) VID: Radeon X1950 Pro 512MB (AGP 8x) MBD: Intel D865PERL If the afore mentioned drivers are installed, the system tries to reboot after install, the system begins to load devices (can see this via the /sos switch in boot.ini), the system checks the attached disks for errors, THEN my LCDs immediately go into the "no signal" state, they stay there for 3-5 seconds, then they turn back on and i see the BIOS POST'n all over again... this cycle repeats non-stop if i try to boot to normal mode... Rebooted to safe mode, deleted/uninstalled video controllers, rebooted, uninstalled drivers, rebooted, reinstalled ATI 7.7 drivers (ATI's 7.8 literally gives me 1/2 framerates in MANY games compared to 7.7, didn't try Omega's 7.4 modded drivers, 7.6 gives same framerate as 7.7) All other drivers for devices are up to date. ATI has stated in tech support correspondence that 7.8 & 7.9 are not 100% compatible with AGP cards...

Oct 14, 2007, 09:28 AM	#75
higgledyhiggles DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 117 Rep Power: 0	on a side note, since i`ve gone back to 7.6 omegas (curse my agp). whats the reasoning behing the wdm driver bits. does it matter which version you have, latest=best or should the drivers and wdm match. ? cheers, higgles.

Oct 16, 2007, 05:40 PM	#76
Maede DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	I have a bug to post: With the newest omega drivers (Catalyst 7.9.1), my TV won't work. The PC regonices it fine but the screen stays black. It works fin with the older driver (Catalyst 7.1)

Oct 17, 2007, 01:07 AM	#77
User61 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	First of all, thanks for the great drivers. I have the latest Omega driver, using ATi Mobility X1300 with my Dell Inspiron 6400, XP Pro, 2GB RAM. No previous versions of any drivers (Omega of ATi) existed as this is a new, clean install of XP Pro. Resolution at 1280x800, 60Hz. My problem is this: My laptop screen will automatically turn off if I close the lid (I have set Windows XP to 'do nothing' when I close the lid so that my XP will not go into hibernation, sleep or get shut down). I realised that my desktop icons on the right side of my desktop will get displaced about 3 columns to the left whenever I close and reopen the lid. Additionally, the last two rows of icons at the bottom of my screen will get displaced one row to the bottom, so that the last icon will go straight to the top of the next column and the second last icon will become the last icon at the bottom now. My screenshot will provide a better picture. I got a quick sneak peek when I closed my laptop lid and realised that the screen resolution briefly got changed before it goes off. I guess this is why the icons got displaced. How do I fix this, if it is possible to fix it myself? I didn't have this problem with my previous install of XP Pro on this laptop when I was using the official ATi drivers. I hope I don't have to go back to using them!

Oct 17, 2007, 04:31 AM	#80
User61 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	When can we expect the next omega release for 7.10? I'll weigh that in in my consideration whether to uninstall omega drivers now and install the official version while waiting for the next omega drivers OR patiently wait for it with my current omega drivers in place.

Oct 19, 2007, 01:06 PM	#84
holung DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	"[+] Added a new pixel perfect 4:3 resolution for 1080p LCDs (1440x1080@60hz) for those games/companies that offer no widescreen support." That means the driver supports pillar boxing for those old games which do not support widescreen resolutions? Does centered timings/fixed aspect ratio work? It just stretches everything to fill up the whole panel. Help!

Oct 19, 2007, 04:42 PM	#86
Crawdaddy79 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	Can't thank you enough for these drivers, Omega. Been a fan of yours since the Voodoo days - lost touch between Catalyst 5. something and 7.4, but I'm back and will probably never use ATI's driver package ever again.

Oct 23, 2007, 11:28 AM	#89
krvolok DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Slovenia Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	How are these on Sapphire x1950pro AGP - do they even work for anyone out there? I'd really like to give them a try, but I'm still hesitating due to many negative reports. :s __________________

Oct 23, 2007, 12:27 PM	#90
Pluvious Elisha = hottie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA CA. SF Bay Area Posts: 1,328 Rep Power: 42	Per my sig.. that's the card I have and I can only use 7.1's. __________________