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Old Sep 11, 2007, 02:37 AM   #1
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7.9 XP Catalyst drivers out, rate and discuss here please :)

ATI/AMD has released the latest CATALYST 7.9 Drivers.

New Features

Catalyst 7.9 introduces the following new features: Performance Improvements

The following performance improvements are noticed with Catalyst™ 7.9:
  • Far Cry performance improves up to 14 % on the ATI Radeon™ HD2900XT CrossFire™, ATI Radeon™ HD2600XT single card, and ATI Radeon™ HD2400XT CrossFire™ configurations
  • Call of Duty 2 performance improves as much as 12% with Anti-Aliasing enabled on the ATI Radeon™ HD2600XT CrossFire™ and single card configurations
  • Half-Life 2: Episode 1 performance improves at most 9% on ATI Radeon™ HD2600XT CrossFire™ and as much as 6% on the ATI Radeon™ HD2400XT CrossFire™ configurations.
  • Serious Sam 2 performance improves up to 46% on the ATI Radeon™ HD2400XT CrossFire™ and up to 27% on the ATI Radeon™ HD2600XT single card and CrossFire™ configurations with Anti-Aliasing enabled.
  • Quake 4 performance with Anti-Aliasing improves 9% or more on the ATI Radeon™ X1600/X1650Pro and ATI Radeon™ X1300/X1550 products in both single and CrossFire™ configurations
Resolved Issues for the Windows XP Operating System

This section provides information on resolved issues in this release of the ATI Catalyst™ Software Suite for Windows XP. These include:
  • Adobe After Effects 8.0: The Fragment Shader no longer fails when rendering shadows. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29565
  • Bioshock: Frame stutter associated with time spikes in random components of the render stats is no longer noticed as the character walks around. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29041
  • City of Heroes: Attempting to play the game on a system running Windows XP no longer results in the game failing to launch when using an ATI Radeon™ HD 2600 XT. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29567
  • City of Heroes: Enabling CrossFire™ followed by attempting to launch the game no longer results in the game failing to launch and the operating system failing to respond. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29568
  • PowerDVD: Playing a DVD on a system containing an ATI Radeon™ HD 2400 series of product no longer results in missing pixels being noticed on the DVD menu selection. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28511
  • PowerDVD: Playing a DVD on a system containing an ATI Radeon™ HD 2400 series of product no longer results in missing pixels being noticed on the DVD menu selection. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28511
  • World of Warcraft: Intermittent flashing is no longer noticed when enabling AA. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29569
  • Setting the display device to 1280x1024 and attempting to playback a VC1/h.264 title using the Cyberlink player no longer results in choppy playback. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28832
  • Corruption is no longer noticed when playing wmv files with WinDVD when CrossFire™ is enabled. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29566
Known Issues Under the Windows XP Operating System

The following section provides a summary of open issues in the latest version of Catalyst™. These include:
  • City of Heroes: A fatal error message may be displayed when exiting the game and attempting to launch the Catalyst™ Control Center™ in Advanced mode. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28514
  • DIRT: Launching DIRT with CrossFire™ enabled may result in the game failing to launch and an error message being displayed. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29554
  • Enabling CrossFire™ may result in display corruption being noticed when playing a DVD or media clip using either WinDVD 7, Windows Media Player or PowerDVD 6. Further details can be found in topic number 737-22806
  • Catalyst™ Control Center->OverDrive™: The OverDrive™ setting are not retained for individual accounts. This issue may also be experienced under the Windows Vista operating system. Further details can be found in topic number 737-25805
  • Connecting two display devices to an ATI Radeon™ X1600 series product may result in the device manager failing to detect the secondary display device. Further information may be found in topic number 737-21266
  • On certain products playing back VC-1 and H.264 content with display resolution set at 1360x768 or higher may result in screen flashing. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28515
  • On certain products, dragging player window from primary to secondary display no longer results in hardware acceleration being disabled which resulted in the CPU usage increasing. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28516
  • With some h.264 titles that have MPEG2 introductions; playback may switch from hardware accelerated to software once the introductory content is finished. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28517
  • Playing an HD Blu-ray title using Cyberlink PowerDVD 7.3 Ultra for Blu-ray and HD-DVD followed by open multiple windows and moving them around the desktop may result in the windows background not being re-drawn properly. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28831
  • Installing the HDMI audio driver and the VIA audio chipset driver may results in a compatibility issue being noticed and a yellow exclamation mark showing up in the Sound, Video and Game Controllers. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28833
  • On certain products playing back VC-1 and H.264 content with display resolution set at 1360x768 or higher may result in screen flashing. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28515
  • With some h.264 titles that have MPEG2 intros, playback may switch from hardware accelerated to software once the introductory content is finished. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28517
  • Enabling extended desktop mode following by launching the Windows Media Player may result in the player failing to appear on the secondary display device in full screen mode. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29555
For further information and general help on software driver installation, game issues, and more, visit ATI Customer Care.


SPECIAL NOTE of CAUTION:

Caution: Installing the Catalyst software suite 7.8 or 7.9 on a system containing the ATI Radeon™ X1950 AGP series of product may result in either the desktop failing to be drawn properly or the operating system failing to boot. It is recommended to continue using Catalyst 7.7 for this product at this time.



Please discuss your experiences here in this thread.

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Old Sep 11, 2007, 03:30 AM   #2
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the "SPECIAL NOTE of CAUTION" says it all, won't be getting these
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Like I said in the other thread, I'm using them with my X1950GT AGP and everything is running smoothly.
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I'm still getting VPU Recover errors in 2D mode.
I'm selling my HD2900. I'm tired of dealing with my ATI card. Time to move to NVIDIA again and give them a chance.
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Add one more release that contains the IL2 dual monitor bug

I guess they are gonna fix it in Oleg Maddox's famous "Two weeks, be sure." time frame
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No support for AIW 9700Pro like 7.8? Funny that it support 9700Pro??
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737-29385: Event Log Error: ati2mtag: CRT invalid display type

Symptoms:
When a digital panel connected to the graphics card the Windows system log will show the error CRT invalid display type, the source is ati2mtag. This occurs with Catalyst 7.7 and higher

Solution:
This error will not cause any issues to the system or performance. If you do not want to see the error, the workaround is to install Catalyst 7.6.
ATI Engineering has been advised of this issue and is investigating. Any updates will be published when they become available.
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Previously reported with cat 7.7 and 7.8. Still a problem with 7.9.

But at least there is now a ticket and they are 'investigating'.
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Okay...still wtf is with adding EarthSim and STEAM? I download a driver to install the driver, not this other stuff. And why is Microsoft Visual Studio C++ 2005 Redistributable enclosed as well? Do we need this for the driver?
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X1650 Pro AGP user here...*sigh* While the issue with PCI and AGP reads and writes not working seems to be fixed, whenever I try to start anything utilizing direct3d (including the test in dxdiag) it gives me an error message and I'm straight back to the desktop.

Back to 7.7 and everything works fine again. Here's to 8.0 I guess.

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And why is Microsoft Visual Studio C++ 2005 Redistributable enclosed as well? Do we need this for the driver?
I think you need this for Catalyst (CCC)

BTW, I get a quite good performance in Bioshock now. can't tell you the exact FPS increase, but tehre was definitely an increase...
even though pic quality looks a lil worse (but that's because of a mod - i have a SM2 card)
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Oi! your cheating you have tipped the pole sheet upside down, now people thinking they are voting that they are the best drivers are voting the apposite by mistake.

And yes, ATI, please stop adding piles of s***t in with the drivers, they are large enough without all the added crap, what is it, do they pay you for including this rubbish?
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Old Sep 12, 2007, 02:57 AM   #12
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Oi! your cheating you have tipped the pole sheet upside down, now people thinking they are voting that they are the best drivers are voting the apposite by mistake.

And yes, ATI, please stop adding piles of s***t in with the drivers, they are large enough without all the added crap, what is it, do they pay you for including this rubbish?
Shouldn't be difficult to read and then select the one you agree with.

Also, ATI/AMD provides for individual downloads. You don't have to grab the whole shebang. Just get what you need.
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I think you need this for Catalyst (CCC)

BTW, I get a quite good performance in Bioshock now. can't tell you the exact FPS increase, but tehre was definitely an increase...
even though pic quality looks a lil worse (but that's because of a mod - i have a SM2 card)
Hmm...well CCC is running fine for me and I didn't install it, nor do I remember installing a Visual C++ Redist previously. And if it is required it needs to either not have it's own checkbox, or needs to gray out like the Driver does when CCC is selected.
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Yo all,
I have two different machines that are both currently using the 7.4 Omega Drivers. My personal machine is the one listed on the left using an x1950 Pro PCIE. My brother's machine is using an x1950 Gt AGP. We are both playing a lot of BioShock. The new 7.9 release has some fixes for BioShock but I am not sure how big a difference it would make since the game seems to display and run fine on both machines already using our current driver set. I know the new drivers would work fine on my machine but theres no way to tell if they would cooperate with my brother's machine since its AGP based.

Do you all think it would be worth the risk of a possible non-boot-situation, by installing these drivers on my brother's machine, to get the new fixes and performance enhancements for BioShock?

I really dislike the catalyst control center which is why I am using the Omega drivers. Do you think I should give these new ATI drivers a try? Should I wait for an Omega Drivers release, or perhaps just hold off entirely for a future driver?

Your opinion/feedback is much appreciated
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I have two different machines that are both currently using the 7.4 Omega Drivers. My personal machine is the one listed on the left using an x1950 Pro PCIE. My brother's machine is using an x1950 Gt AGP. We are both playing a lot of BioShock. The new 7.9 release has some fixes for BioShock but I am not sure how big a difference it would make since the game seems to display and run fine on both machines already using our current driver set. I know the new drivers would work fine on my machine but theres no way to tell if they would cooperate with my brother's machine since its AGP based.

Do you all think it would be worth the risk of a possible non-boot-situation, by installing these drivers on my brother's machine, to get the new fixes and performance enhancements for BioShock?

I really dislike the catalyst control center which is why I am using the Omega drivers. Do you think I should give these new ATI drivers a try? Should I wait for an Omega Drivers release, or perhaps just hold off entirely for a future driver?

Your opinion/feedback is much appreciated
I do my best to adhere to the old adage: If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it.

But, I don't always do it either. I'm presently using these drivers on my own X1950 Pro PCIe. I'd be very VERY hesitant to try them on an AGP version.
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Yo all,
I have two different machines that are both currently using the 7.4 Omega Drivers. My personal machine is the one listed on the left using an x1950 Pro PCIE. My brother's machine is using an x1950 Gt AGP. We are both playing a lot of BioShock. The new 7.9 release has some fixes for BioShock but I am not sure how big a difference it would make since the game seems to display and run fine on both machines already using our current driver set. I know the new drivers would work fine on my machine but theres no way to tell if they would cooperate with my brother's machine since its AGP based.

Do you all think it would be worth the risk of a possible non-boot-situation, by installing these drivers on my brother's machine, to get the new fixes and performance enhancements for BioShock?

I really dislike the catalyst control center which is why I am using the Omega drivers. Do you think I should give these new ATI drivers a try? Should I wait for an Omega Drivers release, or perhaps just hold off entirely for a future driver?

Your opinion/feedback is much appreciated
I agree with Dyre Straits. I'm using the same drivers you are - and when Bioshock was released everyone was running around like chickens with their heads cut off (at Rage3D) about the drivers that they had - the hotfix not working, etc. when I didn't have a single problem, performance or glitch-wise. And I think ATI was up to 7.7 at that time (Omega's based off of 7.4). I did get one crash to desktop, but it was likely related to my sound card.

All other games look much better, and run more reliably than they did with the ATI drivers I once swore by (AA/AF do not work much of the time even when forced in the CCC).

ATI has really been dropping the ball lately, and I get less inclined to trust them with each driver release as they appear to be breaking things in older cards as they try to fix things in the newer ones..
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I was able to vote without having to log in. Maybe we need to have people log in first. Also, let the poll show who's voting. I find it hard to believe that many people are having problems. Cat 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 have not given me a problem with my video card.
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345m not recognizing update..help please

I installed version 7.9, using mobility mod to make it fit my radeon igp 345m. (Yes unfortunately I'm stuck with that in my laptop, but it was free.. can't complaign)
When I previously started up World of warcraft, a lot of the textures flashed, and made it unplayable because everything was out of control flashing.. I installed the new catalyst using the mobility mod., and I am pretty positive I did it correctly, but when I went to started up WoW it said, "Please install direct x 9.0c or get an up-to-date graphics driver." I have installed directx9.0c, and I'm wondering if anyone is experiencing the same problem, or if this is known. I just want to play WoW without it flashing!
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HIS X1950 Pro AGP 512 MB here.
Cat 7.9 give me the no boot up problem. I have to hot stop the PC and reboot into safe mode, uninstall drivers, then reinstall 7.8.
7.8 drivers give me the improperly drawn desktop on the first reboot (after install) but work fine thereafter.

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7.9 Seemed to work very well for me but after a while I started getting complete system lockups and the only way to get out of it was a complete reset. Rolled back to 7.8 and everything works without any problems again.

One thing I noticed with 7.9 though was that it is the first driver version that has actually increased the fan speed with higher temperatures. That has never worked before for me so I've had to use ATT for that function.

Don't know why the system locks up.
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Does anyone have Need for Speed: Most Wanted, patched to 1.3, which is the latest. To test.

Running the game at maximum settings and 1600x1200, sometimes the game crashes when racing, sometimes not, which it crashes to the desktop with no error message of any kind. It's like it was forced to quit. Whats annoying is, my desktop resolution is 1920x1200 but when the game exits or crashes, the windows desktop is at the game resolution (1600x1200) and I have to manually put it back to 1920x1200. Happens everytime. It's quite annoying.

Other games when exiting, the desktop goes back to its rightful resolution on a X1950XTX.
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Hey guys,

I'm still running win2k. Has anyone tried these drivers with win2k?

Thanks.

awe man! Why do i have to be a newbie? I've been looking at this site for years, it's just my first reply ! lol!
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ATI's 7.9 & 7.9.1 are 100% incompatible with both of my ATI AGP cards...

PCs never successfully reboot to desktop if these drivers are installed.

7.8 literally cut performance in 1/2 on the games i tested it on...

7.7 is stable though and performance is acceptable
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