xp boot times

Powercolour · Jan 16, 2005, 08:28 PM

hey, how many times does the loading bar go across the screen b4 it changes 4 u guys?
right now, it takes me around 5
fastest i've had was like 0.3 (no drivers)
fastest with drivers was 2
Btw, no bootscreen mods...

Louiemaster · Jan 16, 2005, 08:37 PM

Hmm ill check later but right now my boot *time* is about 3 minutes to get to the desktop and finish loading everything.

Powercolour · Jan 16, 2005, 08:52 PM

my time would be like 25 secs if my mobo didn't have 2 display so many things, but since it does its around 1:20

Dark Lord · Jan 16, 2005, 09:26 PM

ive got about 30 seconds of crap that i dont use that load along with about 5-7 passes on hte loading screen.

the part i hate most though is that my comp hates cold boots and more often then not hangs on the first windows load. if i hit reset it will load with out fail.

nuG · Jan 16, 2005, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by another-user

ive got about 30 seconds of crap that i dont use that load along with about 5-7 passes on hte loading screen.

the part i hate most though is that my comp hates cold boots and more often then not hangs on the first windows load. if i hit reset it will load with out fail.

go to the run bar and type in msconfig then go to the startup tab and uncheck all the crap you dont use. you can also this with unwanted services but instead of msconfig use services.msc

Dark Lord · Jan 17, 2005, 12:56 AM

na, this is actualy raid bios stuff. i dont use raid so i dont have anything installed for it, so every time it comes up telling me that nothing is installed for the raid drives.

TJ- · Jan 17, 2005, 01:07 AM

7 times

Sargentwhitey · Jan 17, 2005, 01:52 AM

Mine is like 2.5... but.. before that it takes me about a minute to get through POST and then another 30 secs after that to wait for the HD to spin back up... and I already know its because of my dieing 100GB disk....

**MIG-31** · Jan 17, 2005, 02:05 AM

can not say by that method,but mine is fully loaded within 45 seconds.

PangingJr · Jan 18, 2005, 09:25 AM

Disk (init. time: 1.19 sec)
Driver (init. time: 11.31 sec)
Prefetching (init. time: 13.43 sec) (Overlapped))
Registry+Pagefile (init. time: 1.65 sec) (Overlapped))
Video (init. time: 1.39 sec) (Overlapped)
Shell (init. time: 5.62 sec)

this's from a PIII 866 MHz, a desktop PC that could be the slowest PC on DH, i think, the last clean install of winXP is more than 2 years ago, the bootvis.exe were being used on the system many times at that time, on both the boot trace and the optimized, and never ran the program again until today. i feel like i'm cheating on these number. lol. i'm not.

29 seconds will be the boot time that measured from the time the power switch is pressed to the display of the desktop shortcuts. it's from around 24.50 seconds of the above boot trace plus 3-5 seconds of the time spent by the BIOS POST and the NT loader, these two boot times is measured by hand timing or like counting 1,2,3,.. these boot screens takes about 1 second each and this because they can not be measured by kernel instrumentation since the kernel is not running at that time.

and it'll take 34 seconds (or less)... from the power switch is pressed to a useable state,
(the tmpfw.exe is the last startup item/program that loads at boot time. see pic below)

Quote:

Taken from the "Fast System Startup for PCs Running Windows.doc" (fastboot-winxp.exe)

Windows XP Boot Activity Summary

1. Disk time is the time to enumerate all the devices in the non-page able device path. This is everything from the CPU to the boot disk drive; multiple IDE devices and slow IDE devices can affect this time. Typical disk time in Windows XP is 2 seconds, which is 4 times faster than Windows 2000.

2. Driver time is the time to initialize devices.

3. Prefetching time is the time spent reading pages in from disk used later as devices initialize, and Winlogon, services, the shell, and other applications start during boot.

4. Registry+Page file is time spent to read the registry and initialize the page file.

5. Video is the time spent as the display mode is set for the final resolution and refresh rate. Video driver and Video BIOS affect this time.

6. Logon+Services and Shell are the times to start Winlogon, services, the shell, and so on. This is mostly the operating system. However, value added components such as anti-virus software can effect this time.

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BootVis: Less Useful Than It Seems
http://langa.com/newsletters/2004/2004-09-02.htm#5

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Vampyromaniac · Jan 18, 2005, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Powercolour

my time would be like 25 secs if my mobo didn't have 2 display so many things, but since it does its around 1:20

Weird. I just checked mine, it takes 46 seconds (from power-button to login-box.) Progress bar makes just less than 3 full passes.
I have the same CPU and mobo as you

have you turned off everything you don't need in the BIOS?

caqde · Jan 18, 2005, 10:59 PM

Quote:

na, this is actualy raid bios stuff. i dont use raid so i dont have anything installed for it, so every time it comes up telling me that nothing is installed for the raid drives.

If you don't use raid turn it off. At least you should be able to. And it will save you on windows drivers(memory) and boot times. I have SATA-RAID and ATA-RAID I only use the ATA-RAID for a DVD-ROM drive(not normally used) of mine so I turn SATA-RAID off.

I think it takes me about 1-2mins to boot up. But then again I have alot of stuff to load on bootup. My fault I and there is nothing I don't want loaded.

PangingJr · Jan 19, 2005, 05:43 AM

i've let the bootvis.exe did the next boot trace for 10 times, then did an optimize once on the same system, the overall boot time and startup program times are about the same. but i think i see some improvements in the boot screen.. i don't see the progress bar since i use a different boot.ini than yours, but i will see about 4-6 boot screens, the BIOS POST is very fast, it's about one sec., then drivers ->Windows version and Ram info ->check disk screen ->Windows is starting.. ->loading personal settings ->Desktop. these boot screens are really fast, like a big gif image with 1 sec. interval between frames

Powercolour · Jan 19, 2005, 12:03 PM

well, ican't seem to disable the via raid, and i'm using the promise ones, but other that that, i seem 2 have disabled the unusefuls

Vampyromaniac · Jan 20, 2005, 02:23 AM

Yeah I don't think you can turn off the VIA. I'm using the Promise controller, too . . . in regular IDE mode though.
But other than the initial POST screen, and the Promise detection screen, the mobo doesn't display any other screens with me.

ZeroOne · Jan 20, 2005, 07:04 AM

I use Diskeeper Latest version , and i use the bootime defragmentation.
It sets all startup data close toghether, in my case the boot time increase dramaticly.
Also remove ,as discribe above, remove unnessasery to prevent starting up some un used
Services, including the nVidia Helper service.
Warning before using the boot time defragmenter make a check point.

Give it a try.

ZeroOne

Powercolour · Jan 20, 2005, 12:47 PM

it disps info on my comp along with an ami logo, then via, then promise, then it goes to windows

Vampyromaniac · Jan 21, 2005, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Powercolour

... then via, ...

Have you set the "OnChip SATA BOOTROM" to Disabled?

Powercolour · Jan 22, 2005, 10:30 AM

no..., i'll do that now...
thx

Jan 16, 2005, 08:28 PM	#1
Powercolour DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 411 Rep Power: 0	xp boot times hey, how many times does the loading bar go across the screen b4 it changes 4 u guys? right now, it takes me around 5 fastest i've had was like 0.3 (no drivers) fastest with drivers was 2 Btw, no bootscreen mods... Last edited by Powercolour; Jan 16, 2005 at 08:51 PM.

Jan 16, 2005, 08:37 PM	#2
Louiemaster Masto Commando Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Don't worry about it unless your a stalker. Posts: 295 Rep Power: 0	Hmm ill check later but right now my boot time is about 3 minutes to get to the desktop and finish loading everything. __________________ Lets blow this popsicle stand!

Jan 17, 2005, 01:07 AM	#7
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Jan 17, 2005, 01:52 AM	#8
Sargentwhitey Has a JOB.. Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 1,473 Rep Power: 0	Mine is like 2.5... but.. before that it takes me about a minute to get through POST and then another 30 secs after that to wait for the HD to spin back up... and I already know its because of my dieing 100GB disk.... __________________ Mobile:Intel Celeron M 1.5GHz, 40GB WD, 1GB PC24000, Intel Mediocre Graphics 2, SB Audigy 2 Notebook

Jan 17, 2005, 02:05 AM	#9
MIG-31 DH News MOD Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham,UK Posts: 42,588 Rep Power: 186 System Specs	can not say by that method,but mine is fully loaded within 45 seconds. __________________ Please Post Your News Submissions Here How you can help DriverHeaven by using Digg!

Jan 16, 2005, 08:52 PM	#3
Powercolour DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 411 Rep Power: 0	my time would be like 25 secs if my mobo didn't have 2 display so many things, but since it does its around 1:20

Jan 16, 2005, 09:26 PM	#4
Dark Lord DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,584 Rep Power: 66 System Specs	ive got about 30 seconds of crap that i dont use that load along with about 5-7 passes on hte loading screen. the part i hate most though is that my comp hates cold boots and more often then not hangs on the first windows load. if i hit reset it will load with out fail.

Jan 17, 2005, 12:56 AM	#6
Dark Lord DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,584 Rep Power: 66 System Specs	na, this is actualy raid bios stuff. i dont use raid so i dont have anything installed for it, so every time it comes up telling me that nothing is installed for the raid drives.

Jan 19, 2005, 05:43 AM	#13
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 55	i've let the bootvis.exe did the next boot trace for 10 times, then did an optimize once on the same system, the overall boot time and startup program times are about the same. but i think i see some improvements in the boot screen.. i don't see the progress bar since i use a different boot.ini than yours, but i will see about 4-6 boot screens, the BIOS POST is very fast, it's about one sec., then drivers ->Windows version and Ram info ->check disk screen ->Windows is starting.. ->loading personal settings ->Desktop. these boot screens are really fast, like a big gif image with 1 sec. interval between frames

Jan 19, 2005, 12:03 PM	#14
Powercolour DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 411 Rep Power: 0	well, ican't seem to disable the via raid, and i'm using the promise ones, but other that that, i seem 2 have disabled the unusefuls

Jan 20, 2005, 02:23 AM	#15
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	Yeah I don't think you can turn off the VIA. I'm using the Promise controller, too . . . in regular IDE mode though. But other than the initial POST screen, and the Promise detection screen, the mobo doesn't display any other screens with me. __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

Jan 20, 2005, 07:04 AM	#16
ZeroOne DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Netherlands Posts: 185 Rep Power: 0	re I use Diskeeper Latest version , and i use the bootime defragmentation. It sets all startup data close toghether, in my case the boot time increase dramaticly. Also remove ,as discribe above, remove unnessasery to prevent starting up some un used Services, including the nVidia Helper service. Warning before using the boot time defragmenter make a check point. Give it a try. ZeroOne __________________ ICE 0000 0001

Jan 20, 2005, 12:47 PM	#17
Powercolour DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 411 Rep Power: 0	it disps info on my comp along with an ami logo, then via, then promise, then it goes to windows

Jan 22, 2005, 10:30 AM	#19
Powercolour DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 411 Rep Power: 0	no..., i'll do that now... thx