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Old Jan 14, 2005, 10:15 PM   #1
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Help!!!

When trying to update/install my IDE drivers I get the following error:

The drivers for this device are not installed. (Code 28)

You need to restart your computer before the changes you made to this device will take affect.

To reinstall the drivers for this device, click Reinstall Driver.

Help?
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Old Jan 15, 2005, 03:07 AM   #2
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Do you have any software that created virtual drives on your PC? (e.g. Alcohol, Daemon Tools, CloneCD). If yes, then you need to uninstall that first before doing any changes to your IDE drivers
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Old Jan 15, 2005, 02:53 PM   #3
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Do you have any software that created virtual drives on your PC? (e.g. Alcohol, Daemon Tools, CloneCD). If yes, then you need to uninstall that first before doing any changes to your IDE drivers
I have Alcohol but I don't have any virtual drives on (set it to '0')
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Old Jan 15, 2005, 04:55 PM   #4
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It doesn't matter how many drives you've set it to have I'm afraid, you'll have to uninstall it first. Alcohol's virtual device driver is accessing your CD-ROM's device driver while the program is installed, so you'll have to uninstall Alcohol, restart, update your IDE drivers and then reinstall Alcohol... a pain, but unfortunately, the only way to go in such a case
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Old Jan 15, 2005, 05:01 PM   #5
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It doesn't matter how many drives you've set it to have I'm afraid, you'll have to uninstall it first. Alcohol's virtual device driver is accessing your CD-ROM's device driver while the program is installed, so you'll have to uninstall Alcohol, restart, update your IDE drivers and then reinstall Alcohol... a pain, but unfortunately, the only way to go in such a case
Dammit that sucks.. hey that doesn't mean alcohol's taking up unneccessary resources does it? Cause I don't use it very often, might leave it uninstalled for awhile if it's taking up ram or something.
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Old Jan 16, 2005, 01:16 AM   #6
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i'd leave it uninstalled if you don't use it but once in a blue moon, yes.
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Old Jan 16, 2005, 04:00 AM   #7
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No it's not taking up RAM. The operating system is divided into 2 kinds of memory: a part reserved for the OS itself (the kernel space) and a part which is reserved for regular applications (application space) - including Explorer. Alcohol's virtual CD-ROM device driver is in the kernel space, interacting with the ATAPI driver (the driver of your CD-ROM).

Alcohol's driver doesn't allow you to remove the ATAPI driver (to update it), because it depends on the ATAPI driver's functions (it fools the ATAPI driver into thinking you've got an extra CD-ROM)

So the answer again, is no, it doesn't reserve memory, it just hooks functions of the ATAPI driver and thus locks it, so you can't remove your ATAPI driver without removing Alcohol first

Have a look at this Microsoft Knowledge base article as well:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;884675
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Old Jan 16, 2005, 07:41 PM   #8
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No it's not taking up RAM. The operating system is divided into 2 kinds of memory: a part reserved for the OS itself (the kernel space) and a part which is reserved for regular applications (application space) - including Explorer. Alcohol's virtual CD-ROM device driver is in the kernel space, interacting with the ATAPI driver (the driver of your CD-ROM).

Alcohol's driver doesn't allow you to remove the ATAPI driver (to update it), because it depends on the ATAPI driver's functions (it fools the ATAPI driver into thinking you've got an extra CD-ROM)

So the answer again, is no, it doesn't reserve memory, it just hooks functions of the ATAPI driver and thus locks it, so you can't remove your ATAPI driver without removing Alcohol first

Have a look at this Microsoft Knowledge base article as well:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;884675
Very informative, thank you
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Old Jan 17, 2005, 02:24 AM   #9
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Thanks... It would have been more informative if I hadn't written it 10 mins after I woke up
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