[Judas]

I've always checked through alot of options in windows xp when it came to getting the most from my dail-up connection....

28.8kb connection using a V.92 PCI Fully HARDWARE U.S. Robotics internal modem... best damn thing you can get... connection to the net in about 20 seconds or less... and stable as all hell... and not to mention ZERO cpu or resource usage...

anyways.... gaming has never been an options.... however, for the hell of it.... i finished installing the latest version of XP PRO (with SP2 Slipstreamed).... then install the nessary drivers and popped my quake 1 prepack on the machine...

i fired it up and connected to my server (100 miles away but i may as well be on the other side of the planet with the line conditions)... and got a normal 600-1200+ ping.... pretty ugly...

i proceeded to look into more of the new SP2 settings and came across something that said something similare to that of:

"Negotiat MultiLink Connection on SingleLink Connection"

never saw that in orginal or SP1 of Pro...... enabled it and fired up the internet.... wow... WOW, downloads are even faster, although not by much... they pretty much are solid though at full tilts.... 28.8kb connection and pulling it down at over 3kb/s

also, the compression information is stating 3 times %tage on the download and probably another 15-25% on the upload which would explain a little..

now to push it.... loaded up quake 1 and connected to a server... 150-200 ms ping!? wtf.....

Just to see if i wasn't dreaming... i turned it off... fired up the net again... attempted... and found that this option made one hell of a difference....

need more info? i do to.... i just wish i could give you the exact location however, it doesn't appear to be available for anyone using anything other then a modem.... i'll have to get back to this..

Net? you might have an opinion (i've had the v92 modem install for well over 2 years now and i've never seen the option although i must recommend that people using anything lower then v92 should seriously consider a good v92 modem.. highly recommend US robotics)

[Zelig]

I've got the same kind of modem as you, but my stupid ISP doesn't support the V.92 protocol, only V.90.

I usually get about the same % compression, currently on 45% upload.

I can't find that option though, where is it?

edit: Found it, will test...

[PangingJr]

i am not going to get any better than i already have with my analog line.
the option Negotiate multi-link for single link connections is always there..
http://support.microsoft.com/default...307849&sd=tech

[PangingJr]

Judas.... still getting better connection with the option checked.

[Judas]

yes..... without it my upload speed sits at 4kb/s (faster then my download lol... strange.. it's like my ISP has the bandwidth backwards...)

anyways.... here's some details

WITHOUT OPTION CHECKED:
Download: 2.5-3.0kb/s fluctuating - 2-4% compression fluctuating
Upload: 3.0-4.0kb/s fluctuating - 20-40% Compression fluctuating

With option checked:
Download: 3kb/s SOLID - 6-12% (depending on source... is solid with possibly a fluctuation of 1% give or take)
Upload: 5kb/s SOLID - 60-75% compression SOLID (similare to download)

Connection to my Quake 1 dedicated server:

Disabled: 600-1200+ ping all over the place at all times... weird lag with catchup.... and wrong fireing...

Enabled: 150-200ms.... the occational NOTICEABLE lag... but pretty impressive and VERY VERY playable....

once again....

V.92 US Robotics 56K PCI HARDWARE modem
ISP: 150 miles away, from there the server is nearly 300 miles.... to it has to travel a round trip of 900 miles approxamitely...

Line conditions: An entire town is connected to a master "router" which then go to another town using of it's lines.... goes through that router and off to another "city"... through that city it's pretty well a direct connection to the ISP which is located a very long ways away..

56K is impossible to get, 28.8kb is the fastest i've every seen.... used to get 28.0 connection with the other best modems we used to have.... any winmodems would keep crashing...had to be hardware... aside from that.. that's all i know...

[PangingJr]

i also use US Robotics as always for so long.. but mine is kinda old v.90, i have both internal and external.. but the machine i use now is using the internel one... with my lines i get aproxx 50.x something at most of the connection made.... i normally don't check that option cos it won't improve... i think it's about the ISP and the phone lines. don't know but i'll get a v.92 one from a friend to test it later...

[Jitter]

I live out in the boonies and my highest connect speeds were low 40's to high 30's...........Mostly around 36k. I bought a USR fax performance pro hardware based modem and i was able to play RavenShield and battlefield relatively well. I would get ping times between 140-180. The robotics Modem also came w/ a program that enables "gaming mode" its supposed to lower your ping times by like 20-30ms but i actually had better luck w/o it on. Maybe your isp needs to support v92? My other modem is just a lucent winmodem, the ping times are a lot worse w/ it, but it is extremely rare that it gets disconnected out of the blue. With the robotics modem sometimes it would just stop sending/receiving data w/o dropping the connection so if you went to dl something overnight and that happened the modem wouldnt reconnect.

That "negotiate multilink" setting has always been there if you goto your network connections area righ click on your connection and goto properties. Then goto the networking tab and click on the settings button. I never really noticed much difference w/ that checked or unchecked it might depend on your ISP im not sure.

Unfortunately now we have terrible line conditions and my max speed is only 26.4 and if there is any moisture in the air the lines get full of noise. We have been fighting w/ verizon for months about it but they are either incompetent or just dont want to replace cables.

[The_Neon_Cowboy]

try makeing a shot gun connection judas

[Judas]

Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy

try makeing a shot gun connection judas

not possible.... not with our isp..... we've got 2 seperate phones line and i tried it..... our isp got fairly pissed off....

besides that.... i must say the v.92 modem seriously kicks ass... more stable connection AND has nocked 5 minutes off the dialing in time....

[Jitter]

For quicker dialing goto your control panel and goto phone and modem properties then select your modem and goto its properties. Under the advanced tab you can enter extra commands "strings" for your modem. For USR modems try S11=50 its like speed dial. If you goto the USR site you can probably DL the manual or user guides that lists all the different strings you can try. For example you can turn error control on/off, different compressions on/off, you can enable/disable all kind of different protocols. I would do a search for "initialization strings" and "robotics" on google to try different ones see how they work. Ive read up on it before and tried several different ones. Right now I am using "AT&C1&D2 s11=50 s38=0" certain commands are supposed to lower ping but are worse for dling and vice versa. It also depends on your ISP as to which strings work best for you.

[Robert McClelland]

lol my isp very fast I get from 46,000 to 50,600 download speeds up to 5k a sec. Do you know what extra strings that V92 gateway modem have?

[Jitter]

This might help........ http://www.initstring.com/inits/gateway.html

Althought it doesnt say what the strings do.....All i did was went to yahoo seach and typed in the box "Gateway" and "modem" and "strings" several pages came up you can check them out. If you goto the homepage for your modem you may be able to dl some kinda manual that tells you what those commands mean. Most modems have very similar strings the S11 register and C1 and D2 commands are the same for both my modems.

This is another good (newer) site. http://modemsite.com/56k/

hope that helps

Kevin

[Robert McClelland]

thanks dude would try soon http://modemsite.com/56k/x2-linklimit.asp#auto this one might be best one yet hehe

[PangingJr]

no change, Judas. almost same results for me on both V92 and V90.

[Judas]

hmmm... it may only help those with either slower connection OR connections with possibly other problems.... you tried ping?

BTW... some if not most of those strings no longer work with generally newer modems.... i've yet to find a V.92 modem that has any of those strings work at all... i used to do the dialing speed change a few times

[PangingJr]

tried ping?
yep, no diff.
why your dialing take that long, mine is about a half min - a min,
no strings are needed, may be just a keep alive but i don't use it anymore.
check its driver again - http://www.usr.com/support/s-main-menu.asp

[Jitter]

A lower ping does not necessarily equate to better DLs. For example even when i was getting decent connect speeds I could DL between 4-5KB/s but when i would goto play games i would limit my connect speed to like 28k cause the ping times were lower at more stable at that speed.

As for the strings not working, I dont understand that....My modem is newer v.92 USR fax performance pro (think it has a 3comm chipset) and the strings definitely work, its just hard to test what works best. I played around for about an hour last night turning on/off different things, and the string that gave me the best ping times was "at s32=226 s11=50" ..... s32=226 turns off v.90, v.92, and X2 and s11 is just "speed dial".

Table6-7 Settings for S32
Bit Value Results
0 1 V.8 Call Indicate enabled.
1 2 Enables V.8 mode.
2 4 Reserved.
3 8 Disable V.34 modulation.
4 16 Disable V.34+ modulation.
5 32 Disable x2 modulation.
6 64 Disable V.90 modulation.
7 128 Disable V.92 Modulation

That is the chart for the s32 register on my USR modem....To use it just take the values you want to disable and add them up (but i think you always need v.8 on because it has to do w/ the initial handshaking). For example if you wanted to just disable v.92 your command would be "s32=130" (2 to enable v.8 and 128 to disable v.92). So for my s32=226 i got (128+64+32+2). There are many S registers along w/ the other commands so theres like infinite combinations. Im trying to figure out how all the stuff works together....

I was pinging the yahoo site and w/ most of the other strings i tried i was getting pings of around 220-240ms but after disabling all that stuff i got it to around 160-180ms avg.

My isp is only v.90 though and like i said earlier the quality of the lines here are terrible. So what works best for me might not work best for others.

[Judas]

my modem isn't listed ...... when you do a massive search for the driver... USR says use the one provided by XP.. (however, this is bad)

i just stick in the cd and use the one on there.. works flawlessly and give me more options.....

[Jitter]

What modem do you have exactly, and what happens when you try to put the strings in? I know if i put a bad string in mine i either get a device error or it just wont connect.

[Judas]

nothing... it connects fine... nothing changes....

i don't have the exact model but it isn't listed anywere in the driver area on the USR site.. you have to do some digging...

i'm 100 miles away from the computer at the moment...

[Robert McClelland]

How about Wireless Judas?

[Jitter]

If your modem connects when you put a string in, then im pretty sure the string is working or you would get some kind of device error. Its hard to tell what kind of effect the string has though unlesss you sit there and run dl tests or ping tests over and over. I guess you could try a string to limit your connect speed to be sure they are working.

Note: &N17 through &N39 apply only to V.90 and V.92 products.
&N17 28,000 bps
&N18 29,333 bps
&N19 30,666 bps
&N20 32,000 bps
&N21 33,333 bps
&N22 34,666 bps
&N23 36,000 bps
&N24 37,333 bps
&N25 38,666 bps
&N26 40,000 bps
&N27 41,333 bps
&N28 42,666 bps
&N29 44,000 bps
&N30 45,333 bps
&N31 46,666 bps
&N32 48,000 bps
&N33 49,333 bps
&N34 50,666 bps
&N35 52,000 bps
&N36 53,333 bps

To limit our speed to 28000 the string would just be AT&N17

If your connect is not truely v90 or v92 try one of these

&N0 Connection speed is determined by the remote modem.
&N1 300 bps
&N2 1200 bps
&N3 2400 bps
&N4 4800 bps
&N5 7200 bps
&N6 9600 bps
&N7 12,000 bps
&N8 14,400 bps
&N9 16,800 bps
&N10 19,200 bps
&N11 21,600 bps
&N12 24,000 bps
&N13 26,400 bps
&N14 28,800 bps

[Robert McClelland]

Try this Judas http://torresmo2000.vilabol.uol.com.br/aol7dbmain.htm
it has lots strings modems lol after I put mind in it said I was connected at 921.6kps But I don't belive that right speed lol