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Feb 18, 2004, 07:08 PM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
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Remote shutdown on network pc
I need to find a utility or a command to shutdown my mp3 file server remotely. The server has no keyboard, monitor or mouse connected to it and I remotely manage it from my rig. It is connected on the network with a 4 port router. I have tried the dos shutdown tool but get a message to say that the directory service is not running. I have no idea what this could mean apart from active directory.
If I try to shut the pc down with the power button, the server just pops an error message (on the server not the rig) to say that there are users still logged on and do you wish to disconnect them. I would hit yes but having no mouse or keyboard is a bit of a problem.
Is there a utility I can use to shut the machine down remotely?
I've tried running a delayed shutdown on the server and then logging off, but this just puts the server back to the login screen.
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Feb 18, 2004, 09:37 PM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: U.S.A.
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Re: Remote shutdown on network pc
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Originally posted by Logla
I need to find a utility or a command to shutdown my mp3 file server remotely. The server has no keyboard, monitor or mouse connected to it and I remotely manage it from my rig. It is connected on the network with a 4 port router. I have tried the dos shutdown tool but get a message to say that the directory service is not running. I have no idea what this could mean apart from active directory.
If I try to shut the pc down with the power button, the server just pops an error message (on the server not the rig) to say that there are users still logged on and do you wish to disconnect them. I would hit yes but having no mouse or keyboard is a bit of a problem.
Is there a utility I can use to shut the machine down remotely?
I've tried running a delayed shutdown on the server and then logging off, but this just puts the server back to the login screen.
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I try something like setting up pc anyware...
or setting up a remote assisance invite in windows but that would be a pain...
hmmm not for shure
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Feb 18, 2004, 09:42 PM
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Check these two page out and see if anything on that helps/works for you.
some registry tweaks that you see on the pages maybe needed for the server to power off after shutdowned...
Shut down PC through network??
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Feb 19, 2004, 06:27 AM
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DriverHeaven Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Trollhättan, Sweden
Posts: 512
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Have you tried computer management in administrator tools and then right click on computer management (local) and select "connect to another computer??
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Feb 19, 2004, 07:28 AM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
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Quote:
Originally posted by panging
Check these two page out and see if anything on that helps/works for you.
some registry tweaks that you see on the pages maybe needed for the server to power off after shutdowned...
Shut down PC through network??
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Used psshutdown. It works like a dream. Thanks again for your wisdom 
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Feb 19, 2004, 08:30 AM
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Burned
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 29,643
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Re: Remote shutdown on network pc
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Originally posted by Logla
I need to find a utility or a command to shutdown my mp3 file server remotely. The server has no keyboard, monitor or mouse connected to it and I remotely manage it from my rig. It is connected on the network with a 4 port router. I have tried the dos shutdown tool but get a message to say that the directory service is not running. I have no idea what this could mean apart from active directory.
If I try to shut the pc down with the power button, the server just pops an error message (on the server not the rig) to say that there are users still logged on and do you wish to disconnect them. I would hit yes but having no mouse or keyboard is a bit of a problem.
Is there a utility I can use to shut the machine down remotely?
I've tried running a delayed shutdown on the server and then logging off, but this just puts the server back to the login screen.
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I use the built in windows XP remote desktop tool (a GUI interface tool to remotely control a PC over lan - built into the OS) and you can shut down even with other users online. Its how I operate my server as well. same system as yours.
To log onto your server, just get your servers LAN ip and log in with an ADMIN pass set the resolution of the in-monitor remote desktop etc. You can also shut the window but remain logged in with a user by just closing the window or you can log off entirely via log off. Shutdown works if you use admin privileges and it lets you close other accounts for a total shutdown. No additional software needed, all built into the OS.
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Feb 19, 2004, 08:55 AM
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DriverHeaven Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Scotland
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Either that or use VNC... www.realvnc.com
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Feb 19, 2004, 09:14 AM
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Burned
Join Date: May 2002
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I think realVNC like a program such as remote administrator actually takes over the full machine as you be looking at it from the primary screen - this takes ALOT of cpu time and as ive seen can be very slow such as when you are moving your mouse or opening windows etc. Microsofts Remote desktop actually logs in with another account of your choice (admin is the best option for total control) and therefore the overhead is much lower meaning its ALOT faster over lan (if you turn on your server monitor you dont see your login as its a seperate account running in the background - the mouse or windows dont open on that main account meaning much less CPU overhead). Peroni got me into remote desktop and I remotely control my windows 2003 server in a window on the 2nd monitor for chats, downloads, ftp etc. RealVNC is a good option for remoting showing people things or fixing issues live with people watching etc, but for the case above the built in OS software is perfect, especially considering the massive speed differential.
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Feb 19, 2004, 09:26 AM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
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Quote:
Originally posted by Zardon
I think realVNC like a program such as remote administrator actually takes over the full machine as you be looking at it from the primary screen - this takes ALOT of cpu time and as ive seen can be very slow such as when you are moving your mouse or opening windows etc. Microsofts Remote desktop actually logs in with another account of your choice (admin is the best option for total control) and therefore the overhead is much lower meaning its ALOT faster over lan (if you turn on your server monitor you dont see your login as its a seperate account running in the background - the mouse or windows dont open on that main account meaning much less CPU overhead). Peroni got me into remote desktop and I remotely control my windows 2003 server in a window on the 2nd monitor for chats, downloads, ftp etc.
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We used to use VNC at work but only as a very last resort unless we could actually send someone over to the machine (very large WAN of over 100,000 desktops) as we would often get network errors or machines would just hang because of the amount of data being sent over the network.
Since XP appeared on some of our machines, it has been much easier to remotely manage a pc miles away. Unfortunately this has the effect of lessening the reasons for having field engineers - which is what I am.
For some reason the remote connection in XP wont allow me to shut down the other machine because at the moment of initializing the shutdown, I am actually connected to the machine. XP then decides to ask if I really want to disconnect the connected users and I don't see this message because I was disconnected by the time it appeared. What a pain. Psshutdown does the job though so I'm happy.
BTW: like the new avatar and sig - very sweet.
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Feb 19, 2004, 09:30 AM
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Burned
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 29,643
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glad you have it sorted  strange about windows not allowing you to shut the machine down. I can even log off other users via remote desktop logged in as administrator and turn the machine totally off from this one. ("are you sure you wish to shutdown, there are other users connected?" - clicking yes, you get booted from remote desktop to the login GUI and the remote machine turns off)
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Feb 19, 2004, 02:19 PM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
Join Date: May 2003
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Thanks for the links! I never really considered using newsgroups for this purpose - generally just binaries. You have opened my eyes to another pot of gold within the internet.
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Feb 19, 2004, 02:24 PM
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Burned
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 29,643
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I only use it over LAN, behind a hardware firewall - most MS software is well known to be insecure.
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Feb 19, 2004, 02:29 PM
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NP at all Logla.
i think the newsgroups is good sometimes, just read and save any info you think you can use it in future, then unsubscribe/remove it. i do that all the time.
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Feb 19, 2004, 02:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Zardon
I only use it over LAN, behind a hardware firewall - most MS software is well known to be insecure.
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i know whats you mean Zardon. when you say MS softwere..
so for concerned users who are new with the RD should have some precaution measures when using over the internet. you can find info about it using the link (google links), look up for 'Remote desktop security'
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