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Old Feb 13, 2004, 08:28 PM   #1
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? "you are an idiot" .....???
Anyone using IE is an idiot, its a slow very insecure browser. There is no reason to use it considering we have so many other free browsers out there. I use opera, but mozilla is just as good with a few tweaks. Both are free. (opera has little ads in the top of the screen if you dont regester, but they dont cut into the browsing window or slow it down, they are intigrated like a button on the nav bar)

IE cant handle many things (The hotlink protection on the server for one) that opera/mozilla dont have any problems with.
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Old Feb 13, 2004, 08:33 PM   #2
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Anyone using IE is an idiot, its a slow very insecure browser. There is no reason to use it considering we have so many other free browsers out there. I use opera, but mozilla is just as good with a few tweaks. Both are free. (opera has little ads in the top of the screen if you dont regester, but they dont cut into the browsing window or slow it down, they are intigrated like a button on the nav bar)

IE cant handle many things (The hotlink protection on the server for one) that opera/mozilla dont have any problems with.
er.... I love IE because it is fast.. and is secure for what i use it for..... being that i'm behind a firewall..... doesn't bother me....

i used both links... worked fine...fast... server capps the downloads at 1mb/s though....
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Old Feb 13, 2004, 08:50 PM   #3
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er.... I love IE because it is fast.. and is secure for what i use it for..... being that i'm behind a firewall..... doesn't bother me....

i used both links... worked fine...fast... server capps the downloads at 1mb/s though....
really? Maybe its just a canada thing. I know 4-5 people from canada that cant download from the direct link on the server using IE, but it works with everything else. (I dont have IE so I cant test it here)
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Old Feb 13, 2004, 09:57 PM   #4
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And the link for people with IE and a special message from me.....
IE link
actually I would believe that the message on your server should be pointed to you directly craig

the guy above said and I quote "Why did the admin switch back to the auth download links? They don't work in Firefox "

What is Firefox you ask?

Firefox is Mozillas new name for FireBird which used to be called Phoenix.

So youre saying IE users are idiots while you couldnt read enough to realize that he was saying that a Mozilla browser was the one that wasnt working?

The depths of that astound me.


Not trying to dig into you too hard but I just have an issue when a "respected" member touts off and trashes those of us who are fond of IE and MSN9.

Then again its this type of mentality that I expect from the Windows bashers.



Linux is more secure.

Only because its not as well adopted.

Everyone should use Linux.

Only when its more standardized and has a standard install and program proceedure.

Linux rules and everyone else sux

Yes and you just turned 13 didnt you?

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Thats my typical convo with anyone who is Anti-Windows/IE


edit - oooh look at the smilie bug in the last line of my linux users defense
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Old Feb 13, 2004, 10:17 PM   #5
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Thats the point. When no one uses a standardized browser then everything will be more secure because its much more difficult to write exploits for 10 differnt applications (Or OSes, but I'm not a big linux touter, I play games)

I thought firefox was supposed to be a less stable/compatible but faster verison of mozilla, right? Or is it something else?

I say everyone should be using many differnt browsers, but it first requires people move off of IE. If I say IE is ok then almost all people will just say screw it, I'll just deal with it. When I say its crap, it will integue more people to seek out a new browser. (At least thats what I hope it does)

EDIT: and acctually I wasnt referring to the firefox post at all, it was a coincidence.

EDIT2: I also changed it to something less offensive just incase someone who doesnt know me thinks thats something DH is saying.....

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Old Feb 14, 2004, 06:36 AM   #6
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I thought firefox was supposed to be a less stable/compatible but faster verison of mozilla, right? Or is it something else?
Firefox is standalone browser-only product.

And yes, IE is pure junk.
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Old Feb 14, 2004, 07:53 AM   #7
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Only as long as 6 months ago, I used to use IE pretty exclusively. Now I use Netscape 7.1. About the only thing I use IE for now is to get Windows Updates and for things that don't seem to work in Netscape (certain videos/downloads....for whatever reason).

It's kinda funny actually, I used to think all that stuff that Spybot and Ad-aware removed was just normal, everyday occurences if you used the net, but with Netscape, NONE of that junk gets in the PC at all. Not to mention the nice popup blocker that Netscape has.

IE has it's uses, but yes, generally speaking, it stinks.
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Old Feb 14, 2004, 08:02 AM   #8
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I still run IE because its the fastest/most compatible I've seen and I'm so damn used to it...I can't let go lol. Anyways, I'm hoping nothing can touch me with my new hardware firewall
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Old Feb 14, 2004, 10:24 AM   #9
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I still use IE myself as well. It does everything I need it to without a hitch. Yes IE is subjected to having its flaws exposed more than others but it is in general I would say used by most people instead of Mozilla or Firebird (Being the only option in Windows tends to make that happen). Mozilla and Firebird def have some great options and are very good alternatives but I am happy with IE so I dont use them.
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i like Mozilla becoz i can better manage its cache/cookies, it also faster with my connection and like many of you here i still need IE, some sites only take IE, and some can be viewed best with IE only. so i use both browsers for my everyday browsing.
if you find that you get spyware from using IE, you can D/L and run the spyware block registry file from here - http://www.spywareguide.com/blockfile.php -
it helps stopping some of bad ActiveX control from running in IE and it blocks many spywares.
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Old Feb 14, 2004, 02:21 PM   #11
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...hrmm... Mozilla... Firebird... (netscape is the slowest hog i've used yet)... all seem to take longer in doing anything i want.... when i click a link... it takes all of 0 seconds to load up EVERTYHING.... so...... that and the downloading program works fine... fast... stable.... I don't care for downloading accelerators.. best one is the META downloader.. larger... but very powerfull and not limiting... a good step up from DAP
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Old Feb 14, 2004, 02:44 PM   #12
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I'm using the IE 6 beta 2055 with the PopUP blocker on my XP machine. That's one fine feature!
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Old Feb 14, 2004, 03:57 PM   #13
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Thumbs Up! Firefox is the future now!

I'm also using Firefox now. I have used Mozilla before and now with version 0.8 of Firefox I think it is finaly better. I've given up on IE long ago. I was missing so many features and there are so many nasty things that can happen with it. Not to mention its extremely old rendering engine which doesn't even support the newest web standards. It is just holding everyone back with this.
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Old Feb 14, 2004, 04:00 PM   #14
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a good step up from DAP
you shouldnt use DAP if you care about other people. All it does is make a whole bunch of connections to the server which will make it lag for other people because of the additional strain of all of the seperate connections. (Theres a reason when servers only let people download at X speed per connection)

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Old Feb 14, 2004, 04:21 PM   #15
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DAP in extreme mode opens 10+ connection.... i don't useually use dap enless i'm having some problems downloading it.... in most cases i never touch dap... i just know some other browsers include Resume/Pause features in there downloading programs.... BTW... has anyone used Meta? only program i know of that can take full advantage of every server the might have the file.. and the connection.. (auto optimises... opens connections if it thinks it'll benifit.. and if it's getting poor results... it closes some and check... )... ALSO... DAP usually opens extra connections to other sites... not just the one....
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I still run IE because its the fastest/most compatible I've seen and I'm so damn used to it...I can't let go lol. Anyways, I'm hoping nothing can touch me with my new hardware firewall

Ditto the fastest/most compatible and used to it parts... With the Google Toolbar to block unwanted popups (easily allowing them when I'm doing work at sites where they may be necessary) IE is excellent.

I may have to give another look at Netscape though, it's been a few years...
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Anyone using IE is an idiot, its a slow very insecure browser. There is no reason to use it considering we have so many other free browsers out there. I use opera, but mozilla is just as good with a few tweaks. Both are free. (opera has little ads in the top of the screen if you dont regester, but they dont cut into the browsing window or slow it down, they are intigrated like a button on the nav bar)

IE cant handle many things (The hotlink protection on the server for one) that opera/mozilla dont have any problems with.
I'm Rather be a by U Called "IDIOT" ,get yourself Sp2 2055.
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Old Feb 16, 2004, 09:30 AM   #18
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I'm on SP4, I'm not going backwards. Theres no way that a older SP will be more secure.....
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Old Feb 16, 2004, 09:56 AM   #19
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I'm on SP4, I'm not going backwards. Theres no way that a older SP will be more secure.....
You talking about win2000 isn't it? Im talking about Win XP am i right ?

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Old Feb 16, 2004, 10:06 AM   #20
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Ohh, my mistake. Yeah SP2 on XP is newer than SP4 on 2k, but I dont want XP and all of its performance degrading useless "features".
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[b]Linux is more secure.

Only because its not as well adopted.
Not true. Linux (or any other *NIX) is more secure by design by the simple virtue that Windows was designed for a single all powerful user. Try playing 3D games under a basic user account - most demand that an account with Administrator rights is used. Thusly, little Jonny has admin rights as he wants to play Dungeon Seige. Oh look - he's installed a Britney Spears screen saver with that nast virus attached!

Under *NIX, Johnny's account would just have rights to the 3D card, audio and input devices, none of which can give "root" access. Thusly whilst Jonny installs his screensaver, only his account on the PC is affected and cannot get out of his area.

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Everyone should use Linux.

Only when its more standardized and has a standard install and program proceedure.
Linux's strength is it's diversity. Instead of forcing people to install a certain way, why not invent different ways? Then pick the one which is best for you.

Besides, the same argument applies to other things like "Only when it has a standard GUI/DE/Mail/web browser/word processor/a.n.other thing"

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Linux rules and everyone else sux

Yes and you just turned 13 didnt you?

Yes
C'mon - haven't you heard Windows users say the same thing?
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Old Feb 16, 2004, 10:10 AM   #22
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I still run IE because its the fastest/most compatible I've seen and I'm so damn used to it...I can't let go lol. Anyways, I'm hoping nothing can touch me with my new hardware firewall
No firewall will stop malicous code from reaching IE and fekking you up. You need a content filter that updates itself regulary for that. Or at least more regular than MS putting out their fixes.
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Old Feb 16, 2004, 10:11 AM   #23
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Finally someone to help defend me .
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I've been running "My IE2" at work and find it to be every bit as fast as IE, and very comapatible with everything I've tried to open... I like alot of the features that it has built in natively...
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