windows xp home edition

Slav · Jan 11, 2004, 11:16 PM

Just wondering if someone can tell me where in the registry or which part i need ot delete to get rid of the

Windows XP Home Edition
Evaluation Copy Build 2600 ?

Its in the right bottom corner.

Thanks for any hints.

PangingJr · Jan 12, 2004, 02:19 PM

R-click on Desktop, point to the Arrange Icons By, then select Lock Web Items on Desktop. see if you can hide it...

Slav · Jan 12, 2004, 10:29 PM

ok i will try thanks. I thought there is a way to get rid oof it in the registry like you can witht he beta build numbers when you install a service pack.

~~Crash Override~~ · Jan 12, 2004, 10:32 PM

just out of curiousity why are you using an eval build?

Slav · Jan 12, 2004, 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by Crash Override
just out of curiousity why are you using an eval build?

Oh the reason is i have win xp pro and for soem reason no matter what i do either do a extract to the hard drive or of the a cd after i install it and goes through the process and reboots i get a fatal error , i can't remember what it is now. So i had a win xp home edition sitting on the hardd rive and yeah it was a evaluation one but its the proper one as i see it. So to answer your question its something i got a long time ago of the net.

~~Crash Override~~ · Jan 12, 2004, 11:34 PM

you do know that it expires right?

after around 6 months I believe it just keels over and dies since thats the expiration built into the os

Id suggest finding a dealer that will sell you an oem copy.

Here in the US full version OEM copies are around $85+

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jan 12, 2004, 11:34 PM

mabe u might try this

remove.for.testing.purposes.only.off.yourdesktop.r eg

Quote:

Originally posted by Crash Override
you do know that it expires right?

after around 6 months I believe it just keels over and dies since thats the expiration built into the os

Id suggest finding a dealer that will sell you an oem copy.

Here in the US full version OEM copies are around $85+

there are ways around it

... but who would want home edition ewwww

student here can buy legit copys of any microsoft software for $5 here anyways

Slav · Jan 12, 2004, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Crash Override
you do know that it expires right?

after around 6 months I believe it just keels over and dies since thats the expiration built into the os

Id suggest finding a dealer that will sell you an oem copy.

Here in the US full version OEM copies are around $85+

No Never knew that .LOL

Well the win xp pro i had a oem but cause its over 12 months they say tuff luck.

I will have to replace it no doubt.

Thanks for telling tme that.

Slav · Jan 12, 2004, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Neon_Cowboy
mabe u might try this

remove.for.testing.purposes.only.off.yourdesktop.r eg

there are ways around it ... but who would want home edition ewwww

i buy legit copys of windows for $5 anyways

No not me either.
I actually put it on my Mother InlAws computer. SO yeah that will do her for now..

Slav

Ps i will have a go at the registry thing. Thanks

~~Crash Override~~ · Jan 12, 2004, 11:55 PM

hmm so basically it looks like a disc error

did you ever think of doing a cd to cd copy using 2 optical drives as when it copies the bits it can correct errors it finds along the way

also Neon whats so bad about home edition?

its exactly the same as pro minus multi cpu support and Remote Desktop Connection if I remember correctly.

I've have it and pro on diff machines and havent noticed anything really missing

Slav · Jan 13, 2004, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Crash Override
hmm so basically it looks like a disc error

did you ever think of doing a cd to cd copy using 2 optical drives as when it copies the bits it can correct errors it finds along the way

also Neon whats so bad about home edition?

its exactly the same as pro minus multi cpu support and Remote Desktop Connection if I remember correctly.

I've have it and pro on diff machines and havent noticed anything really missing

hi,

Ni i have not tried that yet. I have made a image to the hard drivr then extract it to the drive and burn it it on to the cd. But not direct.

The error comes after it copies the files then it does the second copy after the user guide oyu agree to then it restarts the second time and dies there. Syas its missing a file, but i cant remember what it is, but it is listed on the microsoft site and their explanation is to get a new cd.LOL

Well yeah...
If i remmebr what it is i will note it down. All i know when that error comes up it asks to restart and goes back tot he same area and problem.

~~Crash Override~~ · Jan 13, 2004, 01:02 AM

hal.dll?

Slav · Jan 13, 2004, 01:10 AM

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Originally posted by Crash Override
hal.dll?

no, not a ddl file at all.

its not a blue screen of death as such but more when the timer come sup for the first time to say how long to go for the intall to finish a like a notepad fatal error comes and talks about top document some to to with a .cab foile mnot being copied correctly i think.

Sorry i really forg ot what it was.

Slav · Jan 13, 2004, 01:12 AM

i have to do my wifes comoputer later this week so no doubt i will get the emssgae i will then post it.

~~Crash Override~~ · Jan 13, 2004, 01:32 AM

alrighty cause now you have me intrigued

Slav · Jan 13, 2004, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Crash Override
alrighty cause now you have me intrigued

np..

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jan 13, 2004, 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Crash Override
hmm so basically it looks like a disc error

did you ever think of doing a cd to cd copy using 2 optical drives as when it copies the bits it can correct errors it finds along the way

also Neon whats so bad about home edition?

its exactly the same as pro minus multi cpu support and Remote Desktop Connection if I remember correctly.

I've have it and pro on diff machines and havent noticed anything really missing

also home has no fire wall ... pro does
and the memory/driver handling is diffrent on the pro edition
some pretty big differences (to lazy to list)

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jan 13, 2004, 03:36 AM

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Originally posted by Crash Override
hal.dll?

WinTasks DLL Library

hal - hal.dll - DLL Information
DLL File: hal or hal.dll
DLL Name: Windows Hardware Abstraction Layer DLL
Description: Windows Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL) hides hardware complexities from Windows Applications
Part Of: Windows
System DLL: Yes
Common Errors: File Not Found, Missing File, Exception Errors

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HAL - Hardware Abstraction Layer

HAL is Microsoft's abbreviation for the Hardware Abstraction Layer, the technology and drivers that let the Windows NT, 2000, and XP operating systems communicate with your PC's hardware. HAL is one of several features--along with the NT file system (NTFS) that replaced the much less secure MS-DOS--that make NT-based operating systems more secure and reliable than Windows 95, 98, and Me.

HAL prevents applications from directly accessing your PC's system memory, CPU, or hardware devices (such as video and sound cards)--a method that can prevent many device conflicts and crashes. Unfortunately, HAL sometimes also slows or stops DOS games and programs, which need to load their own memory managers or control hardware directly for better performance.

With HAL in the way, developers must rewrite or even abandon their older software in favor of newer, HAL-compatible versions. Microsoft has pressured hardware makers to provide or support technologies such as MMX, DirectX, and 3D graphics language OpenGL, all of which allow fast but indirect access to the advanced high-performance features of video, sound, and CPU hardware. Such access also makes for a better visual experience when using Windows for Web and productivity applications; improved graphics performance is evident all over Windows XP's new user interface.

XP also offers some new compatibility-mode features that let you run programs meant to run under earlier operating systems, but, frankly, most DOS-based and even some Windows-based games simply won't work with the new OS.

Tip: To see which HAL is currently installed, open Device Manager, and expand the Computer branch. The entry that
appears in this branch corresponds to the currently installed HAL.

Slav · Jan 13, 2004, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Neon_Cowboy
WinTasks DLL Library

hal - hal.dll - DLL Information
DLL File: hal or hal.dll
DLL Name: Windows Hardware Abstraction Layer DLL
Description: Windows Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL) hides hardware complexities from Windows Applications
Part Of: Windows
System DLL: Yes
Common Errors: File Not Found, Missing File, Exception Errors

Yeah it was not that at all. It was something totally different. I should know what it is by the weekend again.....

~~tenndevil~~ · Jan 13, 2004, 12:03 PM

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also home has no fire wall ...

Thats funny mine does, all 3 copies that are installed on all 3 computers has a firewall, I don't know where you got this information from, but XP home does have the ICF, no doubt. as you can see by the posted image:

~~Crash Override~~ · Jan 13, 2004, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Neon_Cowboy
WinTasks DLL Library

hal - hal.dll - DLL Information
DLL File: hal or hal.dll
DLL Name: Windows Hardware Abstraction Layer DLL
Description: Windows Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL) hides hardware complexities from Windows Applications
Part Of: Windows
System DLL: Yes
Common Errors: File Not Found, Missing File, Exception Errors

actually I was just asking him if it was hal.dll that was popping up for the error.

I know what hal.dll is

also the memory and driver subsystems are the same byte for byte

and home does have the firewall

edit - just found a useful guide showing the differences

here it is copied and pasted right from Win SuperSite:

The following features are not present in Windows XP Home Edition.

Power user

Remote Desktop - All versions of Windows XP--including Home Edition--support Remote Assistance, which is an assisted support technology that allows a help desk or system administrator to remotely connect to a client desktop for troubleshooting purposes. But Only Pro supports the new Remote Desktop feature, which is a single-session version of Terminal Services with two obvious uses: Mobile professionals who need to remotely access their corporate desktop, and remote administration of clients on a network. You can access a Windows XP Remote Desktop from any OS that supports a Terminal Services client (such as Windows 98 and, interestingly XP Home). XP Home can act as the client in a Remote Desktop session; only Pro can be the server.

Multi-processor support - Windows XP Pro supports up to two microprocessors, while Home Edition supports only one.

Automated System Recovery (ASR) - In a somewhat controversial move, Microsoft has removed the Backup utility from the default Windows XP Home Edition, though it is available as an optional installation if you can find it on the CD-ROM (hint: it's in the /valueadd folder). The reason for this the integration of Microsoft's new Automated System Recovery (ASR) tool into Backup. In Pro, ASR will help recover a system from a catastrophic error, such as one that renders the system unbootable. ASR-enabled backups are triggerable from XP Setup, allowing you to return your system to its previous state, even if the hard drive dies and has to be replaced. Unlike consumer-oriented features such as System Restore, ASR is not automatic: It must manually be enabled from within the Backup utility in Windows XP Pro. In any event, while there is a Backup utility available for Home Edition, you cannot use ASR, even though mentions of this feature still exist in the UI. Confusing? Yes. But it's better than no Backup at all, which was the original plan.

Dynamic Disk Support - Windows XP Professional (like its Windows 2000 equivalent) supports dynamic disks, but Home Edition does not (instead, HE supports only the standard Simple Disk type). Dynamic disks are not usable with any OS other than Windows 2000 or Windows XP Pro, and they cannot be used on portable computers. Likewise, Home Edition does not include the Logical Disk Manager.

Fax - Home Edition has no integrated fax functionality out of the box, though it is an option you can install from the XP Home CD.
Internet Information Services/Personal Web Server - Home Edition does not include the IIS Web server 5.1 software found in Pro.

Security

Encrypting File System - Windows XP Professional supports the Encrypting File System (EFS), which allows you encrypt individual files or folders for local security (EFS is not enabled over a network). EFS-protected files and folders allows users to protect sensitive documents from other users.

File-level access control - Any user with Administrator privileges can limit access to certain network resources, such as servers, directories, and files, using access control lists. Only Windows XP Professional supports file-level access control, mostly because this feature is typically implemented through Group Policy Objects, which are also not available in Home Edition.

"C2" certification - Microsoft will attempt to have Windows XP Professional certified with the "C2" security designation, a largely irrelevant status, but one which will not be afforded to Home Edition.
Management

Domain membership - Home Edition cannot be used to logon to an Active Directory domain. For obvious reasons, the Domain Wizard is also missing in Home Edition.

Group Policy - Since Home Edition cannot be used to logon to an Active Directory domain, Group Policy--whereby applications, network resources, and operating systems are administered for domain users--is not supported either.

IntelliMirror - Microsoft lumps a wide range of semi-related change and configuration management technologies under the IntelliMirror umbrella, and none of these features are supported in the consumer oriented Home Edition. IntelliMirror capabilities include user data management; centrally-managed software installation, repair, updating, and removal; user settings management; and Remote Installation Services (RIS), which allows administrators to remotely install the OS on client systems.

Roaming profiles - This feature allows users to logon to any computer in an Active Directory network and automatically receive their customized settings. It is not available in Home Edition, which cannot logon to an Active Directory domain.
Corporate deployment

Multi-language support - Only Windows XP Professional will ship in a Multi-Language version or support multiple languages in a single install.
Sysprep support - Windows XP Pro will support the System Preparation (Sysprep) utility, while Home Edition will not.

RIS support - See the IntelliMirror heading in the previous section; Home Edition does not support RIS deployments.

Networking features

The following networking features are not included in Home Edition:

The user interface for IPSecurity (IPSec)

SNMP

Simple TCP/IP services

SAP Agent

Client Service for NetWare

Network Monitor

Multiple Roaming feature

User interface features

Windows XP Home Edition has some different default settings that affect the user interface. For example, Guest logon is on by default in Home, but off in Pro. The Address bar in Explorer windows is on in Pro by default, but off in Home. During the beta period, Microsoft had intended to use a business-oriented shell theme ("Professional") by default in Pro and the "Luna" consumer theme in Home Edition. But feedback from corporate users suggested that everyone liked the consumer-oriented Luna theme better, and development of the Professional theme was cancelled. Other user interface features that are present in Pro but not Home include:

Client-side caching

Administrative Tools option on the Start menu (a subset of the Admin tools are still present in Home, however).

edit 2 -

One other thing I feel I should mention is that with the Network features, almost all if not all of them are actually available but just not enabled by default.

I always have the network monitor enabled for my task manager