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Jul 5, 2003, 10:33 AM
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BeardHeaven
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Uk,Earth,Universe,3rd dimention
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O/S's for Performance gaming
I've been messing about with all different o/s's.Most of the time i use a tweaked xp system,
ive used 2000, XP, Me ,98se. Im now running 98se with 98lite Micro install. It cut's out alot of bloat
also it uses some files from 95 to unintegrate the windows internet exsplorer.
Im Using cat 3.5's and am now running a very sleek system,ive got the best frame rates ive ever had.
Sometimes 98se doesent allways get thing's right with irq's etc, but with a bit of tweaking it works well.
Iv'e got a powercolor radeon 9700pro with p4 2.4g processor.Everything just seem's to work better now.
im going to install Omega's new cat's today. Most people use XP today.Most game problems i had have all vanished and i have an overall better,smoother update. It's seem's a bit daft to go back to an old o/s.
what o/s's tweaks do you use?.
I wish someone would modify a version of xp . I think Microsoft should bring out a cut down operating system of there own. not much chance,maybe some1 could write there own shell just 4 games.
Im a musician and have allways had 2 messabout with my o/s to get the best from it,cheers
Esa.
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Jul 5, 2003, 11:29 AM
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Colour Commentator
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Highland, IN USA
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A new and high-quality addition to the ranks of DH.
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That just brought a tear to me eye, it was just soooo true and sooooo beautiful!
Win98se is without a doubt still the best gaming OS around after you custom tweak it in. I don't use 98lite anymore since I never really saw that big of an improvement once I had 512Mb in me rig and a Ghz+ CPU, but I still will only do a dual-boot to use XP since I just find 98se so much better in the smoothness/performance department.
XP is improving, but it's still got a long way to go. I saw a kewl custom version of 2K that the guy had streamlined all the best SP updates into all the way thru SP4, but cut out all the bloat and new glitchy stuff they put in. I'm seriously thinking of giving it a go since it sounds like about the best XP/2k gaming environment right now. 
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Jul 7, 2003, 06:30 AM
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DriverHeaven Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2003
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for game, the tweeked winxp is the best in current MS os, if you need a stable os, I prefer 2000 server +sp3
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Jul 7, 2003, 06:42 AM
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A Legend in Underwear
Join Date: May 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by digitalwanderer
XP is improving, but it's still got a long way to go.
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If you play online then you really need Win2K or XP as they have a much much better TCP/IP stack and you get decent mult-tasking for things like firewalls when playing games.
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Jul 10, 2003, 03:17 AM
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CEO Vandelay Industries
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I just recently read that the "'nonsupport" date for Win98 has been rolled back AGAIN 6 months to Jan 16 2004, and the new "end of life" date has been pushed back to Jan 16 2005. Makes sense since it is still on more computers world wide than XP. Win98 just won't go away.
I have a copy of XP thats been setting on my desk for a couple of months now waiting to be loaded. I would load it but can't find an Omega drive Cat 2.3 based driver for XP and my Radeon7500 hates anything past 2.3. I should probably ask around over in the drivers section.
EDIT: Found the link. Second chart from the bottom. Windows Desktop Product Life Cycle Support
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WinXP Home stored on a Western Digital 1200GB Sata with a Seagate 10GB Barracuda IV Slave
Last edited by Redstone; Jul 10, 2003 at 09:37 AM.
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Jul 10, 2003, 02:28 PM
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ZZzzzzzzzzzz...........
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Texas
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Re: A new and high-quality addition to the ranks of DH.
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Originally posted by digitalwanderer
I saw a kewl custom version of 2K that the guy had streamlined all the best SP updates into all the way thru SP4, but cut out all the bloat and new glitchy stuff they put in. I'm seriously thinking of giving it a go since it sounds like about the best XP/2k gaming environment right now.
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Might I ask where this can be found?
I use a MEmicro installation on another harddrive for a couple games mainly becuase of strange problems in XP since the mobo upgrade (damn drivers...). I'm gonna be dual-booting here pretty soon, possibly XP with 98SE/MEmicro. I currently use pullout harddrive trays to switch harddrives easily, so I can also switch to or try other OS's at will provided I have them installed on seperate harddrives.
~eyeguy616
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Jul 10, 2003, 11:16 PM
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DriverHeaven Newbie
Join Date: Feb 2003
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I'm back to W2K, SP3 for my gaming rig. With some work 98 is good, but for extensive gaming it is getting a little long in the tooth. I really tried to give XP a shot, used it for about 3 months. May try it again after the next update.
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Jul 11, 2003, 05:03 AM
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personality tweaker
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Jormania
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Windows Server 2003 tweaked to workstation ver is what Win2K should have been. If you want, it's Win2K gold. Perfect in what regards stability, no bloat, no limits. Boots like a dream, run no matter how many processes with full speed. Excellent memory management, this is the OS to use. Beware, though... it's a lot of work to trim it to workstation needs. But once you do that you have the best MS OS ever.
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Jul 19, 2003, 08:13 PM
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DriverHeaven Lover
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I had never used win98 before this year as I went from win95 to winME .... Then I got WinXP and I love it stability but it's so damn bloated. This last months I started with win98 as dualboot with winXP , and now I threw XP away  . Win98 is just faster when u tweak it , do the winlite98pro micro thing, etc. It is fast and stable. The look from win98 is horrible tho , so I installed the alternative, fast and stable shell Aston. ( looks better then XP  )
Oh , my dads/bro's pc had winXP installed , guess what , he likes the aston win98se more as well 
away with XP 
Altho I can't recommend win98 to non experienced users
By the way uberlord, I do play alot online (i'm leader of #pure in SoF2) and I only notice very smooth gameplay in win98, very good ping , etc. So it's not true that XP is better for online gaming . Souns bizarre anyway.
@nieves: how big is the total windows dir after installation ? just curious
grtz
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Jul 19, 2003, 09:21 PM
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CEO Vandelay Industries
Join Date: Sep 2002
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I finally loaded XP Home last week. I agree, it is very stable but loaded with tons of useless extras. So far, I have trimmed literally 1.5gigs of crap during the optimizing process.
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Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 4
WinXP Home stored on a Western Digital 1200GB Sata with a Seagate 10GB Barracuda IV Slave
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Jul 20, 2003, 01:33 PM
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AMD Catalyst Beta Team
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Bracebridge, Ontario
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Although there should be no reason for there to be any difference, has anyone seen any sites that compare the performance of the default configuration of XP Pro to the performance of the default configuration of XP Home? I did a Google search but couldn't come up with anything. Thanks. 
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Jul 20, 2003, 03:48 PM
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DriverHeaven Lover
Join Date: Jul 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by Shrink
Although there should be no reason for there to be any difference, has anyone seen any sites that compare the performance of the default configuration of XP Pro to the performance of the default configuration of XP Home? I did a Google search but couldn't come up with anything. Thanks.
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It has same performance so there is no1 who would make a performance comparison 
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XP 2200+TB ,Radeon 9100(290/290) ,256mb DDR 266mhz,... stripped an tweaked (lite98pro and HyperOS) Win98se using Aston shell
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Sep 28, 2003, 08:11 PM
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BeardHeaven
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Uk,Earth,Universe,3rd dimention
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I have just got Xplite GOLD.
Gonna try it out and see how good it is speed wize.
cant wait to load it up, im buzzin.
dont know if I should try it on XP First or 2003 ?
i'll post with my Ideas about it soon.
cheers.
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Sep 29, 2003, 10:50 AM
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DriverHeaven Lover
Join Date: Jul 2002
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Yea I got XP lite too now  . I think it has nice options but it's still version 1.0 (98 lite is 4.7 now) . There's still a lot that they can remove in XP!
My winxp folder got 300mb smaller after removing everything except the fonts. It's a lot faster in booting now , I recon the overall speed got better as well. And offcourse it's more secure now as my windows xp lite won't have some files that some viruses abuse.
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Sep 29, 2003, 10:59 AM
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Live from the Dungeon
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Between the SubWoofers
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I agree with everyone that XP is a little "heavy" for gaming. When I played Asheron's Call 2 I was having all kinds of problems because of the demand that the game puts on your system. So I sat down for a few days and came up with a way to make XP slimmer and much more workable. I have a doc written up on it and I will see if I can get it up on my website. By the time I was ready to start to play a game I had only about 90MB of memory in use out of a gig.......
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