help can anyone explain

charm_quark · Jun 30, 2009, 02:50 PM

every time i burn any thing this is what happens!, one shoots to 100% usage and the other.... it takes me 1hr 20 min to burn a DVD

.... i have a new burner!, and it's a fresh installation of xp, i have no idea why this is happening!

SeraphicSorcerer · Jun 30, 2009, 02:52 PM

You're using alcohol, I would double check settings, especially 1:1 settings. Try a different program to see if that changes. and if comfortable maybe check the firmware for your burner since you said it's new. Always try a different program if you're sure it's not "you".

Mac Daddy · Jun 30, 2009, 09:41 PM

What is your system setup?

Rendering and applications like this are very CPU intensive.

OldBuzzard · Jun 30, 2009, 11:43 PM

Well, looking at your screenshot...it shows that you are burning at 0.9x speed. Your burner, according to what I find on google, is a Samsung SH-S223F, and is capable of burning DVD+Rs and DVD-Rs at 22x, DVD+RWs at 8x, and DVD-RWs at 6x.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827151171

You should be able to specify a much higher burn speed. Depending on your media, you should be able to burn at the rated speed of your DVD nedia, which would cut down on the burn time considerable. Shucks, even 8x or 4x would be a lot faster than what you are doing now.

Check the options in your software. There should be someplace to specify burn speed. Just make sure that you don't try to burn a 12x DVD at 16x. As a general rule of thumb, I always burn at less than the 'rated' speed of any media that I'm using, just to make sure that I get a good burn.

OldBuzzard · Jul 1, 2009, 01:13 AM

OK...I did a D/L and installed the trial version of Alcohol 120%.

I then burned a copy of the WIN 7 .iso, using all 'default' settings in 120%.

Here is what it looked like when I was finished. The screenshot was taken just as it was finishing up. Note that the CPU wasn't breaking a sweat. This is using my WIN 7 RC1 partition.

OldBuzzard · Jul 1, 2009, 01:27 AM

Looking at your screenshot... I see that your 'memory buffer' size is set at 256MB. Maybe upping that to 1024MB would help.

I'm just trying to see if there is anything else that may be making you so slow. I do have an XP 32-bit partition. I'll give that a try and see what happens when I try to burn the same .iso in XP 32-bit.

EDIT:

OK, I'm back in WIN 7 (damn, I'm getting to HATE working in XP)

Installed in XP, and saw the the 'memory buffer' size was 256MB for me there as well. I also found out that 256MB is the MAX that it will allow in XP 32-bit, so my above recommendation to up that won't work.

I burned the same .iso, but had to limit it to 12x. Even then it burned the DVD in right at 6 minutes (5:56 to be exact). Using the 'mamimum' setting it was trying to burn my Memorex 16x rated media at 18x, and it barfed all over itself. It's interesting to note that it did the same thing in WIN 7 but managed to burn successfully.

I'm guessing that you may have made some changes in the options that are causing your problems. I'd try setting everything back to DEFAULT, as those settings (other than the write speed) seemed to work just fine for me. If that fails to help, your only other option I guess, would be to use a different application for burning. Either that, or maybe un-installing Alcohol and then re-installing it.

charm_quark · Jul 1, 2009, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeraphicSorcerer

You're using alcohol, I would double check settings, especially 1:1 settings. Try a different program to see if that changes. and if comfortable maybe check the firmware for your burner since you said it's new. Always try a different program if you're sure it's not "you".

its not only about alcohol!, even if i use nero i get the same problem { the reason i put a screen shot of alcohol is because it shows the actual burn speed!! , the drive is a few weeks (2 i think)}, but it was working fine till a two days ago!,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac Daddy

What is your system setup?

Rendering and applications like this are very CPU intensive.

well i was not doing any thing like that at the moment it was burning, but shouldn't it be balancing the load!

i'm running a P4 with HT,

OldBuzzard thanks for your hard work!!
but is it possible that my problem is related to my mother board instead

Mac Daddy · Jul 1, 2009, 10:01 AM

I meant the burning process sometimes can be CPU intensive even with a C2D I sometimes get system lags depending on what I am doing. Tipstaff might be headed in the right direction though if your system hasn't experienced this type of CPU usage while burning previously.

OldBuzzard · Jul 1, 2009, 02:59 PM

OK...it's been awhile since I worked with XP, but I seem to remember something. (Hey, when you're OLD, it sometimes takes awhile to get the grey matter up to speed

)

I'm betting that your burner has reverted to PIO mode, which would explain the slow burning speed, AND the high CPU usage.

Give this page a look and see if it helps:
Enable DMA mode in Windows XP

charm_quark · Jul 2, 2009, 01:23 AM

it works fine in ubuntu!
i'll try the link and enable the mode when i get home, i'll get you a proper update in a few hrs time

MythicaL · Jul 2, 2009, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldBuzzard

I'm betting that your burner has reverted to PIO mode, which would explain the slow burning speed, AND the high CPU usage.

Exactly what I was thinking. I know that PIO mode can take effect if the burner is having issues with the optical media, and I bet there are some other reasons the controller would fall back to PIO as well.

This also might help: http://winhlp.com/node/10

charm_quark · Jul 2, 2009, 04:46 PM

well now my whole system is behaving odd it's freezing but the cpu usage does not peak, when i run VMware! ( its like it is dying) ! but on the ubuntu side works like a charm

Note: i even went as far as strippin my power cable (because i dont have a ups to measure the power!) got around 200W usage fror a 400W

charm_quark · Jul 2, 2009, 07:30 PM

tried what you said!, doesn't help.......

Kizo · Jul 2, 2009, 08:05 PM

Sorry.. already mentioned, please ignore this post.

[hobo]eclipse · Jul 2, 2009, 08:20 PM

are your jumpers configured properly?

Mac Daddy · Jul 2, 2009, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charm_quark

tried what you said!, doesn't help.......

Check your ACHI settings in BIOS and force them to IDE or SATA.

charm_quark · Jul 4, 2009, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [hobo]eclipse

are your jumpers configured properly?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac Daddy

Check your ACHI settings in BIOS and force them to IDE or SATA.

This setting will apply to the whole system regardless of the OS ( because its from the BIOS,)...

what i dont get is that from linux it burn ok, from windows it.....

the change that oldbuzzard, advice worked it decreased the burning time time form 1:30 hrs to about 50min... that is some progress!

Mac Daddy · Jul 4, 2009, 03:15 PM

Using ACHI with one of the Windows OS's it wouldn't recognize the drive at all I forget which one. Just threw that out there looks like your making progress anyway

EDIT: Even though is showed in BIOS during boot

charm_quark · Jul 7, 2009, 02:41 PM

...... Ah guys. i'm just gonna format... it's like a loosing battle!!!!

Mac Daddy · Jul 7, 2009, 07:48 PM

Hope all goes well and wish we could have helped more Bro.

Jun 30, 2009, 02:50 PM	#1
charm_quark incognito Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: BoTsWaNa Posts: 1,477 Rep Power: 54	help can anyone explain every time i burn any thing this is what happens!, one shoots to 100% usage and the other.... it takes me 1hr 20 min to burn a DVD.... i have a new burner!, and it's a fresh installation of xp, i have no idea why this is happening! __________________ Three quarks for Muster Mark! Sure he has not got much of a bark And sure any he has it's all beside the mark. —James Joyce, Finnegans Wake

Jun 30, 2009, 02:52 PM	#2
SeraphicSorcerer Driverheaven's Sorcerer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 1,136 Rep Power: 75 System Specs	Re: help can anyone explain You're using alcohol, I would double check settings, especially 1:1 settings. Try a different program to see if that changes. and if comfortable maybe check the firmware for your burner since you said it's new. Always try a different program if you're sure it's not "you". __________________

Jun 30, 2009, 09:41 PM	#3
Mac Daddy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,950 Rep Power: 64 System Specs	Re: help can anyone explain What is your system setup? Rendering and applications like this are very CPU intensive. __________________ "My mom said the only reason men are alive is for lawn care and vehicle maintenance." - Tim Allen

Jun 30, 2009, 11:43 PM	#4
OldBuzzard DH's oldest Geek? Join Date: May 2003 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 2,225 Rep Power: 83 System Specs	Re: help can anyone explain Well, looking at your screenshot...it shows that you are burning at 0.9x speed. Your burner, according to what I find on google, is a Samsung SH-S223F, and is capable of burning DVD+Rs and DVD-Rs at 22x, DVD+RWs at 8x, and DVD-RWs at 6x. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827151171 You should be able to specify a much higher burn speed. Depending on your media, you should be able to burn at the rated speed of your DVD nedia, which would cut down on the burn time considerable. Shucks, even 8x or 4x would be a lot faster than what you are doing now. Check the options in your software. There should be someplace to specify burn speed. Just make sure that you don't try to burn a 12x DVD at 16x. As a general rule of thumb, I always burn at less than the 'rated' speed of any media that I'm using, just to make sure that I get a good burn. __________________ When looking for a reason as to why things go wrong, never rule out sheer STUPIDITY Last edited by OldBuzzard; Jul 1, 2009 at 12:05 AM.

Jul 1, 2009, 01:13 AM	#5
OldBuzzard DH's oldest Geek? Join Date: May 2003 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 2,225 Rep Power: 83 System Specs	Re: help can anyone explain OK...I did a D/L and installed the trial version of Alcohol 120%. I then burned a copy of the WIN 7 .iso, using all 'default' settings in 120%. Here is what it looked like when I was finished. The screenshot was taken just as it was finishing up. Note that the CPU wasn't breaking a sweat. This is using my WIN 7 RC1 partition. Attached Thumbnails __________________ When looking for a reason as to why things go wrong, never rule out sheer STUPIDITY

Jul 1, 2009, 01:27 AM	#6
OldBuzzard DH's oldest Geek? Join Date: May 2003 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 2,225 Rep Power: 83 System Specs	Re: help can anyone explain Looking at your screenshot... I see that your 'memory buffer' size is set at 256MB. Maybe upping that to 1024MB would help. I'm just trying to see if there is anything else that may be making you so slow. I do have an XP 32-bit partition. I'll give that a try and see what happens when I try to burn the same .iso in XP 32-bit. EDIT: OK, I'm back in WIN 7 (damn, I'm getting to HATE working in XP) Installed in XP, and saw the the 'memory buffer' size was 256MB for me there as well. I also found out that 256MB is the MAX that it will allow in XP 32-bit, so my above recommendation to up that won't work. I burned the same .iso, but had to limit it to 12x. Even then it burned the DVD in right at 6 minutes (5:56 to be exact). Using the 'mamimum' setting it was trying to burn my Memorex 16x rated media at 18x, and it barfed all over itself. It's interesting to note that it did the same thing in WIN 7 but managed to burn successfully. I'm guessing that you may have made some changes in the options that are causing your problems. I'd try setting everything back to DEFAULT, as those settings (other than the write speed) seemed to work just fine for me. If that fails to help, your only other option I guess, would be to use a different application for burning. Either that, or maybe un-installing Alcohol and then re-installing it. __________________ When looking for a reason as to why things go wrong, never rule out sheer STUPIDITY Last edited by OldBuzzard; Jul 1, 2009 at 02:32 AM.

Jul 1, 2009, 10:01 AM	#8
Mac Daddy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,950 Rep Power: 64 System Specs	Re: help can anyone explain I meant the burning process sometimes can be CPU intensive even with a C2D I sometimes get system lags depending on what I am doing. Tipstaff might be headed in the right direction though if your system hasn't experienced this type of CPU usage while burning previously. __________________ "My mom said the only reason men are alive is for lawn care and vehicle maintenance." - Tim Allen

Jul 1, 2009, 02:59 PM	#9
OldBuzzard DH's oldest Geek? Join Date: May 2003 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 2,225 Rep Power: 83 System Specs	Re: help can anyone explain OK...it's been awhile since I worked with XP, but I seem to remember something. (Hey, when you're OLD, it sometimes takes awhile to get the grey matter up to speed ) I'm betting that your burner has reverted to PIO mode, which would explain the slow burning speed, AND the high CPU usage. Give this page a look and see if it helps: Enable DMA mode in Windows XP __________________ When looking for a reason as to why things go wrong, never rule out sheer STUPIDITY

Jul 2, 2009, 01:23 AM	#10
charm_quark incognito Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: BoTsWaNa Posts: 1,477 Rep Power: 54	Re: help can anyone explain it works fine in ubuntu! i'll try the link and enable the mode when i get home, i'll get you a proper update in a few hrs time __________________ Three quarks for Muster Mark! Sure he has not got much of a bark And sure any he has it's all beside the mark. —James Joyce, Finnegans Wake

Jul 2, 2009, 04:46 PM	#12
charm_quark incognito Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: BoTsWaNa Posts: 1,477 Rep Power: 54	Re: help can anyone explain well now my whole system is behaving odd it's freezing but the cpu usage does not peak, when i run VMware! ( its like it is dying) ! but on the ubuntu side works like a charm Note: i even went as far as strippin my power cable (because i dont have a ups to measure the power!) got around 200W usage fror a 400W __________________ Three quarks for Muster Mark! Sure he has not got much of a bark And sure any he has it's all beside the mark. —James Joyce, Finnegans Wake

Jul 2, 2009, 07:30 PM	#13
charm_quark incognito Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: BoTsWaNa Posts: 1,477 Rep Power: 54	Re: help can anyone explain tried what you said!, doesn't help....... __________________ Three quarks for Muster Mark! Sure he has not got much of a bark And sure any he has it's all beside the mark. —James Joyce, Finnegans Wake

Jul 2, 2009, 08:05 PM	#14
Kizo DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 111 Rep Power: 22 System Specs	Re: help can anyone explain Sorry.. already mentioned, please ignore this post. Last edited by Kizo; Jul 2, 2009 at 08:10 PM.

Jul 2, 2009, 08:20 PM	#15
[hobo]eclipse ...just bummin 'round Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,578 Rep Power: 51 System Specs	Re: help can anyone explain are your jumpers configured properly? __________________ seeing the same things over again, repeating the same slogans we don't know where we've been

Jul 4, 2009, 03:15 PM	#18
Mac Daddy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,950 Rep Power: 64 System Specs	Re: help can anyone explain Using ACHI with one of the Windows OS's it wouldn't recognize the drive at all I forget which one. Just threw that out there looks like your making progress anyway EDIT: Even though is showed in BIOS during boot __________________ "My mom said the only reason men are alive is for lawn care and vehicle maintenance." - Tim Allen

Jul 7, 2009, 02:41 PM	#19
charm_quark incognito Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: BoTsWaNa Posts: 1,477 Rep Power: 54	Re: help can anyone explain ...... Ah guys. i'm just gonna format... it's like a loosing battle!!!! __________________ Three quarks for Muster Mark! Sure he has not got much of a bark And sure any he has it's all beside the mark. —James Joyce, Finnegans Wake

Jul 7, 2009, 07:48 PM	#20
Mac Daddy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,950 Rep Power: 64 System Specs	Re: help can anyone explain Hope all goes well and wish we could have helped more Bro. __________________ "My mom said the only reason men are alive is for lawn care and vehicle maintenance." - Tim Allen