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May 24, 2006, 09:33 AM
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Windows XP x64 = BSOD ?
[color=black]Hello, I have a question regarding x64 and overclocking.. [/color]
[color=black]Normally under XPSP2 I can run my [color=#5e8698]4400+@2750MHz[/color] completely stable but if I install x64 I get a BSOD during install at anything above 2500MHz. I wasn’t aware that x64 would have this effect and can't find any evidence that others have this issue.[/color]
[color=black]Any ideas why this is or is x64 just that demanding that I need to reduce the overclock that much just to run it?[/color]
[color=black]Obviously I’m not going to install x64 if I have to reduce the overclock 250MHz as x64 really doesn’t offer anything that could overcome a 250Mhz disadvantage over XPSP2,, Just curious if others have seen this problem.. [/color]
System
CPU: X4400+@2750MHz
Mobo: Asus SLI Premium 1009
Memory: G-Skill 4000 DDR500
GFX: ATI X1900XTX
Other.. .
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May 24, 2006, 09:41 AM
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Yes, XP64 will show unstable OCs much more than XP32. Is your XP32 OC dual prime stable?
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May 24, 2006, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by dipstick
Yes, XP64 will show unstable OCs much more than XP32. Is your XP32 OC dual prime stable?
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Yes, left overnight with no errors. |
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May 24, 2006, 11:56 AM
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i ran x64 on my 4400+ @ 310FSB at a 10x multiplier for roughly 5 minutes.... completely unstable... extrmely high temps...
i can run it stable @ 2.73Ghz fine (273fsbx10) but i need full juice.. and my PSU isn't even able to cope with the demands it already has on it..
atm running 2.6ghz (273x9.5) with only a marginal vcore pushed.... stable as all hell. Course the PSU does kick if i push it any higher or push the vid cards any higher..
I'd suggest looking at your ram... or HTT
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May 24, 2006, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Judas
i ran x64 on my 4400+ @ 310FSB at a 10x multiplier for roughly 5 minutes.... completely unstable... extrmely high temps...
i can run it stable @ 2.73Ghz fine (273fsbx10) but i need full juice.. and my PSU isn't even able to cope with the demands it already has on it..
atm running 2.6ghz (273x9.5) with only a marginal vcore pushed.... stable as all hell. Course the PSU does kick if i push it any higher or push the vid cards any higher..
I'd suggest looking at your ram... or HTT
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memory is stable, at least memtest86 thinks it is which is good enough for me.. HTT is very low, only 10x275 and X3. |
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May 24, 2006, 12:15 PM
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? 3x HTT? erm.. that a bit low even @ 275x4.. your still within good margins i would think..
but i'm guessing that the BSODs are most likely do to x64 driver instability OR motherboard unstable running x64.
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May 24, 2006, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Judas
? 3x HTT? erm.. that a bit low even @ 275x4.. your still within good margins i would think..
but i'm guessing that the BSODs are most likely do to x64 driver instability OR motherboard unstable running x64.
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275x4=1100 which many boards will not like at all and can in some cases corrupt the hard drives.
But if the PC is stable with *two* Prime 95 instances keeping both cores at 100% then its probably something else. Try running the PC stock while installing and OC it after you got windows and drivers installed |
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May 24, 2006, 01:05 PM
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i've never seen an HHT over 1100 have much or any problems... but over 1250.. yes... cause for concern..
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May 24, 2006, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dipstick
275x4=1100 which many boards will not like at all and can in some cases corrupt the hard drives.
But if the PC is stable with *two* Prime 95 instances keeping both cores at 100% then its probably something else. Try running the PC stock while installing and OC it after you got windows and drivers installed
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It will install successfully at stock or at 2500MHz but no higher, as soon as I increase past this I get the same BSOD. Also should note the CPU does 2600MHz at stock volts under XPSP2. |
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May 24, 2006, 01:17 PM
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erm...
Where does it BSOD when you try to install it?
at the blue setup screen.. .are you using RAID array with drivers... is it a nvidia motherboard?
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May 24, 2006, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Judas
erm...
Where does it BSOD when you try to install it?
at the blue setup screen.. .are you using RAID array with drivers... is it a nvidia motherboard?
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It either appears during the file coping or just after the restart during the main installation.. Or if I try to load a pre-installed install done using lower clock setting it will BS during startup.
Not using Raid but yes the Asus SLI Premium is an nforce4 mobo. |
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May 24, 2006, 02:21 PM
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cause i've had problems with x64 on nvidia motherboards/chipsets...
Are your drives sata? are they runing in IDE capability mode via the bios?
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May 24, 2006, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Judas
cause i've had problems with x64 on nvidia motherboards/chipsets...
Are your drives sata? are they runing in IDE capability mode via the bios?
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Yes, windows is installed on a 74GB WD Raptor, I don't recall any option by that name..
Only options available acording to the manual for IDE drives are.. IDE DMA Transfer Access, SATA/2 DMA Transfer and IDE Prefetch Mode which are all enabled by default |
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May 24, 2006, 03:22 PM
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Should be in the SATA drive options section.... there maybe be a selection between SATA/SATAIDE/SATARAID
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May 24, 2006, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Judas
Should be in the SATA drive options section.... there maybe be a selection between SATA/SATAIDE/SATARAID
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Nope, there all the options under IDE Function Setup .. There are no other sata options available except Raid which is obviously disabled. |
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May 24, 2006, 04:20 PM
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ok...
can you be specific on the type/model of motherboard?
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May 24, 2006, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Judas
ok...
can you be specific on the type/model of motherboard?
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Thought I was, Its the Asus A8N SLi Premium using Bios 1009 (nforce4) |
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May 24, 2006, 04:39 PM
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ok... ok... sorry you menioned th premium.. the bios revision helps 
hrmm...
BSODs at overclock.... fine at a smaller overclocking value...
Works under sp2 fine but x64 sp1 is a no go..
what exactly does the BSOD say? IRQ less than or Equal? or Stop Error or similare? |
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May 24, 2006, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Judas
ok... ok... sorry you menioned th premium.. the bios revision helps
hrmm...
BSODs at overclock.... fine at a smaller overclocking value...
Works under sp2 fine but x64 sp1 is a no go..
what exactly does the BSOD say? IRQ less than or Equal? or Stop Error or similare? |
I get NTFS_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA... Which would normally suggest a memory error I know but why does XPSP2 work ?
Last edited by Shocky; May 24, 2006 at 05:48 PM.
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May 24, 2006, 05:50 PM
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looking at stuff related to that error.. it looks more like a Windows disc bugg.. or transfering of the file that handles that being corrupted being transfered and then ran.....
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May 24, 2006, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Judas
looking at stuff related to that error.. it looks more like a Windows disc bugg.. or transfering of the file that handles that being corrupted being transfered and then ran.....
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Interesting but considering it does install at a lower clock speed does suggest otherwise.  |
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May 25, 2006, 12:19 PM
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yeah my thoughts as well....
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