Windows Visata 32bit home Upgrade to ultimate, install x64 revisted

Judas · Mar 20, 2008, 04:13 PM

Sorry long title...

but

I had asked this shortly after vista came out and i'm having a hard time find a clear solution to the problem at hand... before where it was mostly just a "question" is now an emediately issue as the circumstance is now is in motion.

Heres the facts and information of the current situation:

User has Computer A, which is currently installed with Retail package of windows vista home premium 32bit, and THEN upgraded via the upgrade anytime to windows vista 32bit ultimate eddition.

User now has Computer B, which he wants to transfer the liecense and whatnot to from computer a, but wants to install windows vista ultimate 64bit. While completely wiping computer A's information off, and then selling the computer with another new copy of oem windows vista x64.

The conditions are:

The user only has windows vista 32bit home premium cd (which yes included the ultimate as well).... but doesn't have the 64bit cd, but wants to install the 64bit cd.

What are the clear options available.... i'm researching this as type this.... but want to make sure things are all ironed out before i go ahead and do something .....

PangingJr · Mar 21, 2008, 05:07 AM

install Vista x64 (using your own Vista setup DVD) on to the Computer B, and once it is installed, proceed to activate your copy of the Vista online using the product key you have.
if you can't activate the product using the internet... then proceed to activate by phone, tell agent on the line with you, everything.

then if Computer A has not yet been setup for Vista OEM, then install Vista x64 on to the Computer A, and once it is installed, proceed to activate your copy of the Vista online using the OEM's product key you have. if you can't... then proceed to activate by phone.

it would be great if i can get it done this way. and it looks like this would be my only option to get all the things done.
otherwise, i would just have to ask the agent while he/she is on the phone with me for all of my other options.

Judas · Mar 22, 2008, 01:14 PM

I'm gonna try the retail DVD i've got here...

but from what i could gather.. i will have to install home premium x64 first.. activate.. then using the upgrade path to ultimate....

PangingJr · Mar 22, 2008, 01:29 PM

you may not be able to activate the product using the internet anyway. but try entering the key in Windows and try to activate it online first, and then proceed to activate by phone.

just think about what you are going to tell the agent, try to make it short, and make him/her understand your situation. and you shouldn't have a problem with the product activation.

Judas · Mar 22, 2008, 01:47 PM

yeah i've already talked to alot of these people...

no one seems to know for sure.. but they said to run through and install windows vista x64 home premium freshly and use the 32bit key that came with the retail package... and then activate....

PangingJr · Mar 22, 2008, 01:57 PM

if you can't make it, well you didn't break anything yet,
"i misunderstood by thinking i already upgraded to the Vista Ultimate and i can switch to 64-bit Edition"

and don't forget to ask the agent for help in finding the right way, what should i do now/next?

PangingJr · Mar 22, 2008, 02:22 PM

you bought Vista HP 32-bit retail, correct?

you installed the Vista HP 32-bit and activated using the key that comes with it, correct?

then you upgraded to the Vista Ultimate, correct?

you already purchased the product key for Vista Ultimate? yes?

the product key is now for using to install Vista Ultimate, and the product key is not for 32-bit or 64-bit Edition, it's for both. no?

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when you bought Vista HP 32-bit retail, you bought the product key (the same key can be used, to install either 32-bit or 64-bit. it's just the Vista HP 32-bit retail package product ships on DVD with 32-bit edition software, but it does not mean you cannot use the same product key to install 64-bit Edition. however, you can only run one copy of Vista per product key).

when you upgraded Vista HP to the Vista Ultimate, you already purchased the product key for Vista Ultimate (the same key can be used to install either 32-bit or 64-bit Edition of the Vista Ultimate. however, you can only run one copy of Vista per product key)

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Judas · Mar 22, 2008, 08:53 PM

gah.. i was trying to get a straight answer from the reps at microsoft..

and they kept telling me that i must install the windows vista home premium 64bit and use the 32bit hp key.... and then proceed through the upgrade to ultimate (they said i could not install vista ultimate straight away)

PangingJr · Mar 22, 2008, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

gah.. i was trying to get a straight answer from the reps at microsoft..

and they kept telling me that i must install the windows vista home premium 64bit and use the 32bit hp key.... and then proceed through the upgrade to ultimate (they said i could not install vista ultimate straight away)

sounds like a straight answer to me.

but, have you actually tried to activated your Vista Ultimate by using a phone call?

and then they tells you to remove the installed Vista Ultimate? and install Vista HP first and then upgrade to Vista Ultimate, and you can then activate the Vista?

Quote:

Installation choices for 64-bit consumer versions of Windows Vista

� A custom Installation or a "clean installation" of Windows Vista
A custom installation of Windows Vista does not preserve the currently installed personal files, settings and programs. A custom installation is also known as a "clean installation." Windows Vista is installed without third-party programs.
You can perform a custom installation of Windows Vista by using either an upgrade license or a full product license. However, if you own an upgrade license, you must select Custom at the installation choice menu to perform this action. Note your particular upgrade path for complete details on how to perform this installation type

� An upgrade version of Windows Vista
An upgrade version of Windows Vista is a license that lets you install Windows Vista only if you already own a license for a compliant version of Windows.
Such compliant versions include versions of Windows Vista, Microsoft Windows XP, or Microsoft Windows 2000.
You can perform either an upgrade installation or a custom installation of Windows Vista by using an upgrade license.

Tipstaff · Mar 23, 2008, 01:54 AM

For all the hassle that this will, and obviously is causing, it might be worth it for the client to ask for $100 more, and just sell his copy of Vista with the machine he's selling. At least this way he'd would be $100 closer to buying a standalone OEM Vista DVD of his choice. Not only does he get rid of the old one, but he also gets rid of (or rather dumps onto the next person) the redundant, "install this first to get this, install that next, then install this to get it working, then call Microsoft who will ask you to bend over with lube in hand so they can shove....." um... err.. never mind.

PangingJr · Mar 23, 2008, 02:20 AM

Judas asks this similar questions before some time ago, and he's trying to get a confirm answer of how to do this thing the right way. probably, he wants a standard pratice of him or something.

unlike you want to do something illegally, Judas.
if you can't get the activation done as i suggest you to do, and that's what i would do, or try it at least.
if i could not get it done this way, then i think i don't realize my common sense is wrong.
same as yours, you just don't realize your common sense is wrong.

Judas · Mar 25, 2008, 11:32 AM

first i want to get this done for my own experience.. that way i know what the hell to do

2nd.. the customer doesn't want to get rid of his retail package..

3rdly...... because i should be able to do it.

PangingJr · Mar 25, 2008, 12:01 PM

you don�t want to try it once, maybe try it 5 times.

install Vista... enter the product key in Windows... of course, you won't be able to activate the vista using internet... you get product key already in use... then phone in to activate it.

then try again next week or so, remove the installed vista, and then install it onto another computer... enter the product key in Windows...
of course, you won't be able to activate the vista using internet... you get product key already in use... then phone in to activate it.

then try again...

Judas · Mar 25, 2008, 12:29 PM

yeah i will be

but probably not that often.. probably once a month for abit

i took the plunge and finallying purchased a full blown FOR MY OWN USE, retail copy of vista hp..however up here they don't provide 64bit versions.. you have to sent away for a x64 disc to be sent.

Anyways.... so i'll be doing this myself now...

the reason the user got retail was for the purpose of transfering multiple times without having to constantly get a new oem product and then trying to sell the other oem version of a more then they need ultimate install.

PangingJr · Mar 25, 2008, 03:30 PM

Judas, you might find it rather funny at the fifth or sixth time you phone in, you won't have to say much at all and they just want to help you get through the process.
anyways, don't forget to update me.