Nero, Vista, DirectX 9.0c

Iria · Apr 9, 2007, 11:09 AM

Yes, Iria is emerging from the black hole of the News Forum

I installed Vista (finally) on my Dell Inspiron XPS M1710. Besides the fact that after running it and playing with hacks, etc. it's become obvious to me that that since very little hack-wise (registry edits, etc.) seems to have changed, this isn't the radical OS change Microsoft keeps pumping.

That said, it's a pain to reinstall all the apps ... but ... trying to install Nero 7.8.5.0 (which says it's Vista compatible) it wants to install DirectX 9.0c. Now, Nero Support says:

"There are some special files in our DirectX 9.0c version Nero 7 needs. Because of that you have to install our DirectX 9.0c version. Nevertheless this won´t downgrade your current DirectX 10 version."

Naturally I don't want to hose my Vista DirectX 10 with this install. Anyone know if these guys are blowing hot air or what?

clicker666 · Apr 9, 2007, 04:28 PM

No, they aren't blowing hot air. There should be a Direct X 9.0c update for April that you can apply. I've done both the Feb and April update without any ill effects on my Vista 64 Ultimate install.

Iria · Apr 9, 2007, 04:36 PM

So, rather than using the DirectX 9.0c included in Nero I should install the latest redistributable (as in the one posted in the News forum)?

clicker666 · Apr 9, 2007, 04:40 PM

I don't see why you couldn't install both. I don't recall having to install 9.0c when I installed Nero on this machine though.

Iria · Apr 9, 2007, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by clicker666

I don't see why you couldn't install both. I don't recall having to install 9.0c when I installed Nero on this machine though.

Now, I'm confused. Above you say you didn't have to install 9.0c, but a couple of msgs above that you say:

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I've done both the Feb and April update without any ill effects on my Vista 64 Ultimate install.

Golbeze · Apr 9, 2007, 06:37 PM

I think he means that Nero never asked him to install their version of DX9, but he has installed the latest redistributables from MS. Basically, before you try installing Nero install the latest redistributable first, then install Nero and see if it still asks you you install their DX9. It's likely that they're just simply using a later version of the redistibutable than what comes with Vista.

dipstick · Apr 9, 2007, 07:18 PM

You can't install an older version of DX. Every time you run the installer it will only update older files; if they are newer or the same, it wont do anything.
Having said that, it's a good idea to stay up to date with the latest versions. The latest April release works fine on Vista and so will future releases. Check out the sys requirements at MS

Iria · Apr 9, 2007, 10:19 PM

Yah, so here's what gets me. If it doesn't install anything, it should still say DirectX 10 to any program that asks. Shouldn't Nero still be ticked off (i.e., fail to install) cuz I don't have 9.0c?

Golbeze · Apr 10, 2007, 12:05 AM

Actually, Vista has both DirectX 9 (which I think is actually called 9.0L, correct me if I'm wrong) and 10, so programs that look will actually find whatever they're programmed to look for. Installing the latest DX9 redistributable will update the DX9 on Vista, while leaving DX10 alone. Nero is simply asking to install a later redistributable than what comes with Vista. Programs will still see Vista's 9.0L as 9.0c. At least, that's the way I understand it, anyone feel free to correct me.

Iria · Apr 10, 2007, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Golbeze

Actually, Vista has both DirectX 9 (which I think is actually called 9.0L, correct me if I'm wrong) and 10, so programs that look will actually find whatever they're programmed to look for. Installing the latest DX9 redistributable will update the DX9 on Vista, while leaving DX10 alone. Nero is simply asking to install a later redistributable than what comes with Vista. Programs will still see Vista's 9.0L as 9.0c. At least, that's the way I understand it, anyone feel free to correct me.

Huh. That I had never heard of. But a little searching, and it looks like you're right. Thanks for the info.

mike2h · Apr 10, 2007, 11:48 AM

how is that vers of nero working for u iria?
ive been using 6614 ever since.. well it came out. works great with what i do with it. but since im upgrading my wifes comp to vista(& mine down the road) i have to buy/obtain the newer vers of nero.

Iria · Apr 10, 2007, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike2h

how is that vers of nero working for u iria?
ive been using 6614 ever since.. well it came out. works great with what i do with it. but since im upgrading my wifes comp to vista(& mine down the road) i have to buy/obtain the newer vers of nero.

I'll tell yah, the early versions of 7 were a pain, but the latest ones, I've had no issue with. I haven't yet reinstalled it since I upgraded to Vista; I plan to do that this weekend.

Golbeze · Apr 10, 2007, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iria

Huh. That I had never heard of. But a little searching, and it looks like you're right. Thanks for the info.

Sure, no problem.

Monkeyboy · Apr 29, 2007, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iria

I'll tell yah, the early versions of 7 were a pain, but the latest ones, I've had no issue with. I haven't yet reinstalled it since I upgraded to Vista; I plan to do that this weekend.

Has anyone else had the "another program is busy" error when starting a new burn project in Nero? I'm using the latest version and if I click "switch to" it opens the Windows Start button. I have to click 'retry' or ignore several times before the message goes away and it lets me continue with Nero, even though no other programs are running at the time...

Apr 9, 2007, 11:09 AM	#1
Iria DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 7,275 Rep Power: 74	Nero, Vista, DirectX 9.0c Yes, Iria is emerging from the black hole of the News Forum I installed Vista (finally) on my Dell Inspiron XPS M1710. Besides the fact that after running it and playing with hacks, etc. it's become obvious to me that that since very little hack-wise (registry edits, etc.) seems to have changed, this isn't the radical OS change Microsoft keeps pumping. That said, it's a pain to reinstall all the apps ... but ... trying to install Nero 7.8.5.0 (which says it's Vista compatible) it wants to install DirectX 9.0c. Now, Nero Support says: "There are some special files in our DirectX 9.0c version Nero 7 needs. Because of that you have to install our DirectX 9.0c version. Nevertheless this won´t downgrade your current DirectX 10 version." Naturally I don't want to hose my Vista DirectX 10 with this install. Anyone know if these guys are blowing hot air or what?

Apr 9, 2007, 04:28 PM	#2
clicker666 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Lower Sackville, Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 328 Rep Power: 0	No, they aren't blowing hot air. There should be a Direct X 9.0c update for April that you can apply. I've done both the Feb and April update without any ill effects on my Vista 64 Ultimate install. __________________

Apr 9, 2007, 04:40 PM	#4
clicker666 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Lower Sackville, Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 328 Rep Power: 0	I don't see why you couldn't install both. I don't recall having to install 9.0c when I installed Nero on this machine though. __________________

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mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,489 Rep Power: 74 System Specs	how is that vers of nero working for u iria? ive been using 6614 ever since.. well it came out. works great with what i do with it. but since im upgrading my wifes comp to vista(& mine down the road) i have to buy/obtain the newer vers of nero. __________________

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Apr 9, 2007, 04:36 PM	#3
Iria DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 7,275 Rep Power: 74	So, rather than using the DirectX 9.0c included in Nero I should install the latest redistributable (as in the one posted in the News forum)?

Apr 9, 2007, 06:37 PM	#6
Golbeze DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 273 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I think he means that Nero never asked him to install their version of DX9, but he has installed the latest redistributables from MS. Basically, before you try installing Nero install the latest redistributable first, then install Nero and see if it still asks you you install their DX9. It's likely that they're just simply using a later version of the redistibutable than what comes with Vista.

Apr 9, 2007, 07:18 PM	#7
dipstick DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,565 Rep Power: 53 System Specs	You can't install an older version of DX. Every time you run the installer it will only update older files; if they are newer or the same, it wont do anything. Having said that, it's a good idea to stay up to date with the latest versions. The latest April release works fine on Vista and so will future releases. Check out the sys requirements at MS

Apr 9, 2007, 10:19 PM	#8
Iria DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 7,275 Rep Power: 74	Yah, so here's what gets me. If it doesn't install anything, it should still say DirectX 10 to any program that asks. Shouldn't Nero still be ticked off (i.e., fail to install) cuz I don't have 9.0c?

Apr 10, 2007, 12:05 AM	#9
Golbeze DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 273 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Actually, Vista has both DirectX 9 (which I think is actually called 9.0L, correct me if I'm wrong) and 10, so programs that look will actually find whatever they're programmed to look for. Installing the latest DX9 redistributable will update the DX9 on Vista, while leaving DX10 alone. Nero is simply asking to install a later redistributable than what comes with Vista. Programs will still see Vista's 9.0L as 9.0c. At least, that's the way I understand it, anyone feel free to correct me.