New 8.3 hotfix for Crossfire cards & none crossfire

Spyre · Mar 24, 2008, 02:06 PM

737-33033: ATI Radeon HD2xxx/HD3xxx: Intermittent stuttering issues seen when running various 3D applications

The information in this article applies to the following configuration(s):

* Radeon™ HD3870 series
* Radeon™ HD3850 series
* Radeon™ HD2900 series
* Radeon™ HD2600 series
* Radeon™ HD2400 series
* Windows Vista 32-bit Edition
* Windows Vista 64-bit Edition
* Windows XP Professional
* Windows XP Home Edition
* Windows XP Media Center Edition
* Windows XP Professional x64 Edition

Symptoms:

Intermittent stuttering issues seen when running various 3D applications
AMD Customer Care

Nick0323 · Mar 24, 2008, 04:56 PM

Obviously AMD got too excited with their new driver release and released it a week too early. You can tell by the release dates. (sarcasm)

They never get anything right.

*CATALYSTCATCHER* · Mar 25, 2008, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick0323

Obviously AMD got too excited with their new driver release and released it a week too early. You can tell by the release dates. (sarcasm)

They never get anything right.

What, no comments about how this is AMDs fault????? Actually, they hsd nothing to do with it and if you must know, the premature hotfix release was entirely my fault.

The hotfix will return return in the very near future.

X1800XTTOP · Mar 25, 2008, 09:30 AM

Maybe its too much to ask, but the reason it was pulled is so serious that those who got it and installed it yesterday should delete it and go back to Ofiicial 8.3 or is it OK to have it installed until its released once again?

Thanks!

*CATALYSTCATCHER* · Mar 25, 2008, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X1800XTTOP

Maybe its too much to ask, but the reason it was pulled is so serious that those who got it and installed it yesterday should delete it and go back to Ofiicial 8.3 or is it OK to have it installed until its released once again?

Thanks!

The original will not cause any damage if that's what you are asking, but results will vary as it is not the final version.

But there is no benefit to continue using the premature hotfix. As with any software update some will claim improvments and others will claim disaster. (Kinda like the reputation that Vista has endured :-)

So I recommend that the orignial version simply not be used. The hotfix will be re-released soon.

X1800XTTOP · Mar 25, 2008, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CATALYSTCATCHER

The original will not cause any damage if that's what you are asking, but results will vary as it is not the final version.

But there is no benefit to continue using the premature hotfix. As with any software update some will claim improvments and others will claim disaster. (Kinda like the reputation that Vista has endured :-)

So I recommend that the orignial version simply not be used. The hotfix will be re-released soon.

Thanks for the honest and clear response! As for Vista, my only complain about it is that its slower than XP, and i mean.. it cost me more than my 4GB of RAM did...

Also you might (ok you do) know about ATis performance in DX10 is not on par with DX9 performance (not even close to it honestly

) so for people like me going to Vista gave me nothing in return, except for slightly slower gaming performance. But that will change (i hope) when ATi gets their DX10 performance up so that i can actaully use it in my games

*CATALYSTCATCHER* · Mar 25, 2008, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X1800XTTOP

Thanks for the honest and clear response! As for Vista, my only complain about it is that its slower than XP, and i mean.. it cost me more than my 4GB of RAM did...

Also you might (ok you do) know about ATis performance in DX10 is not on par with DX9 performance (not even close to it honestly

) so for people like me going to Vista gave me nothing in return, except for slightly slower gaming performance. But that will change (i hope) when ATi gets their DX10 performance up so that i can actaully use it in my games

What can I say. DX10 and any game that uses DX10 as well as DX10 code paths inthe graphics drivers are still relatively new in the world. DX10 does not have the years of performance tweaking experience behind it that is true for DX9. Gaming experience in Vista will improve with age.

My comment about Vista was based on many months of usage as compared against previous XP experince. Overall Vista has proven more stable than XP (IMHO). But XP was already a very very stable environment so it takes months to even notice the difference.

Butt Plunger · Mar 25, 2008, 01:55 PM

Where can I get the 8.3 hotfix?

**temeteus82** · Mar 25, 2008, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butt Plunger

Where can I get the 8.3 hotfix?

Hi there and welcome to DriverHeaven!

As CC said in reply #3

Quote:

Originally Posted by CATALYSTCATCHER

What, no comments about how this is AMDs fault????? Actually, they hsd nothing to do with it and if you must know, the premature hotfix release was entirely my fault.

The hotfix will return return in the very near future.

Butt Plunger · Mar 25, 2008, 04:30 PM

Oh, I'm sorry, I overlooked that.

Spyre · Mar 25, 2008, 04:31 PM

The hotfix is back for download

[hobo]eclipse · Mar 25, 2008, 05:41 PM

are there any specifics about what the problem with the original 8.3 is? something a little more certain than "Intermittent stuttering issues seen when running various 3D application"?

Spyre · Mar 25, 2008, 06:09 PM

Its to do with certain cards not using their full 3D clock in games or apps all the time, causing a drop in performance or stuttering.

[hobo]eclipse · Mar 25, 2008, 08:37 PM

this is a full install including CCC and WMD drivers aswell as the hot fix driver, correct?

bedrock · Mar 26, 2008, 08:38 AM

It's 44.7MB, so I guess it is a full install

X1800XTTOP · Mar 26, 2008, 10:45 AM

Yes it includes everything.

Butt Plunger · Mar 26, 2008, 01:06 PM

After I installed the hotfix the catalyst information center says version 8.4.
hmmm

[hobo]eclipse · Mar 29, 2008, 01:01 AM

Had an issue i didn't have a week ago. when playing the witcher certain ground textures are not rendered and can be seen through. looks to mainly be steps and curbstone looking area but didnt stay in game long. like i said, i played for a while like a week ago with standard 8.3 and no troubles, the only thin i changed is ATI driver to the newest hotfix. I did play quite alot of World in Conflict and all looked well. just started WIC conflict up again and all looks well. If i get around to reinstalling the reg 8.3 i'll post back

Eagle · Mar 30, 2008, 05:00 PM

Well the GPU dropping to 2d mode is gone. But no big difference in the FPS in games like UT3, etc. And I have experienced that the computer locks up completely, didn't do that with Cat 8.3 but hopefully they will fix that with cat 8.4 but the most important thing is getting better FPS tbh.

Mar 24, 2008, 02:06 PM	#1
Spyre DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: England Posts: 1,217 Rep Power: 48	New 8.3 hotfix for Crossfire cards & none crossfire 737-33033: ATI Radeon HD2xxx/HD3xxx: Intermittent stuttering issues seen when running various 3D applications The information in this article applies to the following configuration(s): * Radeon™ HD3870 series * Radeon™ HD3850 series * Radeon™ HD2900 series * Radeon™ HD2600 series * Radeon™ HD2400 series * Windows Vista 32-bit Edition * Windows Vista 64-bit Edition * Windows XP Professional * Windows XP Home Edition * Windows XP Media Center Edition * Windows XP Professional x64 Edition Symptoms: Intermittent stuttering issues seen when running various 3D applications AMD Customer Care __________________ ATI Beta Tester game.AMD.Moderator

Mar 24, 2008, 04:56 PM	#2
Nick0323 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: London Posts: 324 Rep Power: 0	Obviously AMD got too excited with their new driver release and released it a week too early. You can tell by the release dates. (sarcasm) They never get anything right. __________________ PSU: Coolermaster iGreen 500W Chipset: nFORCE 750SLi Mobo: ASUS P5N-D, BIOS revision 0601 CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450, 12mb cache, 2.66GHz GPU: Gainward Bliss 9600GT, Engine 700MHz, Memory 2GHz, Forceware 175.19) RAM: OCZ Reaper HPC Edition, PC8500 (1066MHz), 2x2GB Sound: Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi XtremeMusic HDD1: Western Digital Raptor, 160GB, 10,000rpm HDD2: Maxtor Diamondmax 22, 32mb Cache, 7200.11, 500GB HDD3:Maxtor Diamondmax 21, 16mb Cache, 7200.10, 320GB (External via Icy Box) 3D Mark 05 - 17,500 3D Mark 06 - 12,000

Mar 25, 2008, 04:31 PM	#11
Spyre DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: England Posts: 1,217 Rep Power: 48	The hotfix is back for download __________________ ATI Beta Tester game.AMD.Moderator

Mar 25, 2008, 05:41 PM	#12
[hobo]eclipse ...just bummin 'round Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,556 Rep Power: 49 System Specs	are there any specifics about what the problem with the original 8.3 is? something a little more certain than "Intermittent stuttering issues seen when running various 3D application"? __________________ seeing the same things over again, repeating the same slogans we don't know where we've been

Mar 25, 2008, 06:09 PM	#13
Spyre DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: England Posts: 1,217 Rep Power: 48	Its to do with certain cards not using their full 3D clock in games or apps all the time, causing a drop in performance or stuttering. __________________ ATI Beta Tester game.AMD.Moderator

Mar 25, 2008, 09:30 AM	#4
X1800XTTOP DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 346 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Maybe its too much to ask, but the reason it was pulled is so serious that those who got it and installed it yesterday should delete it and go back to Ofiicial 8.3 or is it OK to have it installed until its released once again? Thanks!

Mar 25, 2008, 01:55 PM	#8
Butt Plunger DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Where can I get the 8.3 hotfix?

Mar 25, 2008, 04:30 PM	#10
Butt Plunger DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Oh, I'm sorry, I overlooked that.

Mar 25, 2008, 08:37 PM	#14
[hobo]eclipse ...just bummin 'round Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,556 Rep Power: 49 System Specs	this is a full install including CCC and WMD drivers aswell as the hot fix driver, correct? __________________ seeing the same things over again, repeating the same slogans we don't know where we've been

Mar 26, 2008, 08:38 AM	#15
bedrock DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Portsmouth, UK Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	It's 44.7MB, so I guess it is a full install

Mar 26, 2008, 10:45 AM	#16
X1800XTTOP DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 346 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Yes it includes everything.

Mar 26, 2008, 01:06 PM	#17
Butt Plunger DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	After I installed the hotfix the catalyst information center says version 8.4. hmmm

Mar 29, 2008, 01:01 AM	#18
[hobo]eclipse ...just bummin 'round Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,556 Rep Power: 49 System Specs	Had an issue i didn't have a week ago. when playing the witcher certain ground textures are not rendered and can be seen through. looks to mainly be steps and curbstone looking area but didnt stay in game long. like i said, i played for a while like a week ago with standard 8.3 and no troubles, the only thin i changed is ATI driver to the newest hotfix. I did play quite alot of World in Conflict and all looked well. just started WIC conflict up again and all looks well. If i get around to reinstalling the reg 8.3 i'll post back __________________ seeing the same things over again, repeating the same slogans we don't know where we've been

Mar 30, 2008, 05:00 PM	#19
Eagle DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Halden, Norway Posts: 30 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Well the GPU dropping to 2d mode is gone. But no big difference in the FPS in games like UT3, etc. And I have experienced that the computer locks up completely, didn't do that with Cat 8.3 but hopefully they will fix that with cat 8.4 but the most important thing is getting better FPS tbh.

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