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Who has probs (BSOD's) with Vista and 7.3
Per a request from Terry; lets break out all the vista problems from the original post.
It seems that there many folks including myself who are getting a BSOD on the reboot after trying to instal the 7.3's. I tried to go from 7.2 to 7.3 and upon 1st reboot (and from then on) got BSOD which points to an issue with WIN32K.sys. I've tried using the update function; doing it the old fashioned way(unistal; boot into safe and DC all ATI stuff; restart and instal), and update from the hardware mgr. All leave me at the same place.. broke. I had to reboot to the last working config, then system restore to get my system back. Please list what drivers yer trying to update from, the flavor of Vista yer runnin and what you have hardware-wise. Wont hurt to say whether ya have DEP/UAC runnin or not. I have both running as boxed. Rick CD2 E6600 ON AN ASUS P5WDH 2 GIG G-SKILL 800HZ RAM MSI X1900XTX OCZ GAMEXTREME 700W PSU |
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Thanks Keeler! I appreciate this, and will help once I can reproduce it.
Note: I read that while in safe mode Start Control Panel Administrative Tools Services Right click on ATI External Event Utility and select Properties Change startup type to disabled and hit apply Reboot normally. The blue screen is gone If you have this problem can you verify this workaround does in fact prevent the blue screen... It will help me narrow down the cause of this issue.
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Another one i read is to:
Install 7.3 drivers only Install 7.2 full This would give ya 7.3 drivers and 7.2 CCC I'll give both a "quick" try and report back. Rick |
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CD2 E6600 Gigabyte DS4 X1900XT 2GB Corsair PC5300 X-Fi XtremeMusic 32Bit Vista Home Premium I am trying to update from 7.2 to 7.3 and I get the same blue screen just before my desktop would appear. Quote:
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Thanks Killer.
Do you mind one more experiment for me. Start the install manager for Catalyst 7.3 Select Install (not update or uninstall) Select Custom (not express) Once it lists the components can you let me know what it finds... example for my system it shows Catalyst Control Center ATI Display Driver ATI Theater Driver What does yours say
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Certainly, I'm happy to help sort this issue out.
Mine says: Catalyst Control Centre ATI Display Driver EDIT: I forgot to add, I am still running the 7.3s. |
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Keeler and Killer, do you have a sound card in the system? what do you use for sound.
Also what do you use for output, VGA, DVI, HDMI, Component?
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Yeah, sorry I should have added that to my specs.
I'm using a Soundblaster X-Fi XtremeMusic with the latest drivers ([COLOR=#0000ff]2.13.0012) [/COLOR][COLOR=black]EDIT: And for output, I'm using VGA[/COLOR] |
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Terry,
I went thru yer 1st post procedure, and did following: Un-installed using the ATI un-install utility booted into safe mode and ran DC against all ATI files Disabled the ATI EEU service tried to load full 7.3 package in safe (course it didn't work) Looked and saw where the C:\ATI folder was still there but now expanded 7.2 and 7.3 folders in there booted up and THEN did full package install when doin the reboot after package insall, I went BACK to services and disabled ATI EEU again. Rebooted (WITHOUT BSOD!!), but to a MSG "color scheme changed to windows basic" I am now able to get a clean reboot, but not too sure what M$ msg is meaning.. Rick |
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YUP!! I forgot to spec sound...
Runnin an Audigy 4 with latest driversand I'm using DVI to a sammy bw25 22" LCD |
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Ok we are getting there. If its not too much trouble can I ask you guys to
1)uninstall soundblaster drivers 2) take out the soundcard from the system 3) install catalyst 7.3 im wondering if the sound card drivers have something to do with this and if its the common thread.
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Hi, I'm also having the aforemention BSOD with the 7.3's, my system is as follows:
Asus P5B Premium Vista Edition Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Tuniq TowerVista Ultimate Crucial 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-5300C3 667MHz Tenth Anniversary 2x Samsung 320gbs SATA II Pioneer DVR-111D DVDRW ATI X1900XT-X Dell 2407WFP 24" Widescreen LCD Lian Li A10A caseAntec Neo HE 550 watt PSU Using the on-board sound which is ADI AD1988B, so I'm not sure if it is sound card related... ChrisC
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I only BSOD after installing the catalyst 7.3's every other reboot.
Initial startup works, restart, BSOD, startup fine, reboot, BSOD, etc. MSI 975X Platnium rev2 Powerup Eddition motherboard (bios 7.40) Intel Core 2 Dou E6400 OCZ 2gb DDR Platnium 4-4-4-15 PC6400 @ 800mhz 4-4-4-12 2.1v ATI x1900XTX and ATI x1900 Crossfire Eddition Onboard Realtek ALC882 4x Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 SATA2 NCQ Drives in raid 0 Pioneer 18x DVD-RW-DL drive OCZ GamerXStream 700watt Dell 3007WFP 2560x1600 DVI-D connected Latest Official Intel Drivers and ATI drivers and Realtek drivers. BSOD started emediately aftering installing the ATI catalyst and then turning Crossfire on. (actually the first BSOD happened when i had turned crossfire on) Still fiddling here though. Error i get: Quote:
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I am getting the occasional BSOD but only whilst gaming - not on boot-up. I am also getting a "Display driver atikmdag stopped responding and has successfully recovered"Where with the 7.1/7.2 I was getting a similar error message except that it was the R300 that stopped responding. No problems yet with Ati external event utility service and CCC disabled.
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Looks like Judas' on-board realtek drivers should show it NOT being a ATI/CREATIVE conflict.I'm commin off a 13 hr shift and gotta get some beddy-bye time b/4 I go back to this kinda thing on a Z900 mainframe. Good luck guys, and I'll check back in a few hours!! Rick |
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It's them iffy intel CPU you all have, you need a real mans AMD
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My onboard only shares with a few other devices... but man, there are over 190IRQs, and the crossfire and xtx are on these irq's according to Vista's System Info ![]()
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It is affecting AMD powered CPU's as well junka... ChrisC
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I also got the BSOD after 2nd reboot. And somehow, not sure if it is releated, but my Norton 2007 Internet Security got all messed up and I have to reinstall it.
Another thing, when I was installing this driver I got some strange errors and it said some things didn't install properly. This is the first time this has happened to me. Specs: HDMI 22" Dell LCD PC Specs: Windows Vista Ultimate 64 X1900 XTX 512 (no crossfire) AMD FX-60 2 gb Corsiar 3200 ram 10,000 rpm WD HD (70 gb) and 300 GB 7,200 second HD WD (Pull my X-FI due to issues so I am using on board) A8R-MVP mobo with latest Bios released last week (0502?) 700 watt Thermaltake PSU
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...Oh I forgot to mention I had overdrive enabled. I forgot to check if you guys fixed the overdrive feature in Vista. Could it be Overdrive causing this?
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Thanks very much for the help guys. I ask we stay very diligent on this forum and post comments ONLY on the consistent blue screen on reboot after installing catalyst 7.3. The error message is wi32k.sys dump I believe.
Also to the guys that can reproduce it can you please do me a favor and send me a PM so I can give you instructions on sending me the dump log.
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Hi Terry. BSOD for me as well. Disabled the ATI Event service and then I'm able to boot into Vista. However, no crossfire option and the secondary card in device manager has the old exclamation. Install the secondary driver manually, still no go. For a test I completely uninstalled Cat 7.3's and installed 7.2's. They seemed to have installed fine however, no crossfire option again and the secondary card will not load a driver for the life of me. Really puzzled now....
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"Fear the Bones"
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joyining the BSOD club here , Im not gonna writing all over again so I just paste my post from RAGE3DForum
WARNING NO FLAMING intended: I was pissed off a bit here we go:![]() I dont know wtf they testing there but with so many users with BSODs there simply cant be that all this ppl are wrong. I hope that ATI will come to it and solve the 7.3 BSOD issue and that damn unsupported ATI device in VISTA based systems. And for ppl talking rubbish how to uninstall or reinstall properly I'm a long time ATI camper and there was time when I even build my own CATALYST combo drivers , but I'm finish with all of this and don't wont to bother anymore. I paid good money for my X1900XT and awaiting a good and steady work nothing more nothing less. And to you ATI gurus and all knowing gods around here I did uninstall everything before I made the 7.3 installation, I even cleened the registry , then I tried with killing all ATI processes then used UNINSTALL then again INSTALLATION of 7.3 but nothing once they become active immediately BSOD accrues. This issue forced me to login as a ADMIN in a SAFE MODE to recover my VISTA system thanks good that I had few older restore points . Honestly after the AMD/ATI merge the drivers become worse and worse every release . If this trend will go further I definitely will dump ATI 4 ever. I dont wont to flame around here but I'm angry because I made a fresh VISTA installation 2 weak ago and the only installed CATS where the 7.2s so I considered my system clean ,used proper uninstalling/installation procedure and this crap happens ![]() __________________ 945 P4-3.4 D EM64,ABIT AW8MAX,4x512 KINGMAX533DDR2,SAPPHIRE X1900XT,AUDIGY 2 ZS,LOGITECH MX1000,LOGITECH G15,SAMSUNG 930BF,OCZ-520 ModStream PSU,VISTA HOME Premium... btw TOMCAT lover & F-14 ASSOCIATION member http://www.f-14association.com/mission.htm "Always baby"
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I can consistently reproduce the blue screen and do NOT have a sound blaster card. I haven't had a single problem with Cats 7.2.
Specs for my HTPC are: D975XBX2 with latest bios E6600 cpu - not overclocked 2gigs XMS memory 74gig Raptor, 500gig Maxtor ATI Theater 650, Vbox Cats Eye 150 onboard LAN, Sound Clean install of Vista Ultimate 32 followed by Cats 7.3 (tried both with and without CCC). BSOD in Win32k.sys after first reboot. |
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I only get BSOD from enabling Crossfire. Haven't tried playing a game with it disabled yet though. Haven't tried disabling the service, but I'll do that when I get home.
Here's my post from the earlier thread: Looks like I gotta go back to 7.1 as 7.3 is giving me the same BSOD that 7.2 did when enabling Crossfire (0x0000010E Video Memory Manager has encountered an unexpected error). Actually I knew 7.3 was going to be a problem during the install. When it tries to install the video card drivers, the app hangs and I lose all USB devices (including my mouse). I have to install the drivers manually and then install CCC afterwards. Didn't have to do this with 7.2 This was tried on clean install of Vista 32-bit. System is as follows: DFI Infinity 975x Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 ATI X1800XT Crossfire Edition MSI X1800XT 2GB Patriot RAM 1 x Samsung SATA3.0 160GB 1 x Samsung SATA3.0 500GB Windows Vista Ultimate 32Bit 7.1 works fine. Strangely enough I was able to get 7.2 working fine under Windows XP. Haven't had a chance to see if 7.3 works in it though. |
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Same thing here. The 7.2 drivers ran fine. Uninstalled them, installed 7.3, and BSOD on startup. Was able to roll back to 7.2 (thank goodness), and all is well. Here are my specs:
C2DE6600 P5W DH 2 X 1GB Corsair[COLOR=black] [/COLOR][COLOR=#ff0000][COLOR=black]XMS26400C4[/COLOR] [/COLOR]RAM X1950XTX Xi-Fi Xtrememusic 74 GB Raptor 320 GB Seagate 7200.10 Seasonic M12 700W Vista Ultimate 32-bit |
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quite shocking the number of specs that are all intel baised...
sure there are a few amd ones... but wow.. look at the intel lineup.... wtf? I just fired the cards into my Asus A8R32-MVP Deluxe setup with the beta 703 bios. Loaded up the 7.3's no bsods.... at all... running smooth as silk.. (i'm about an inch away from throwing everything back into the amd rig and using it as my main again)
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Same as everyone else, bluescreen on reboot
ATI x1950 Pro Asus P5B Deluxe BIOS v1004 Intel Core2 Duo E6600 2 gig Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400 Creative Soundblaster Audigy 2 Value 2x250 gig Western Digital non RAID w AHCI enabled ATI Theater 650 Pro Vista Home Premium Edition BSOD Win32K.SYS Disabling the ATI External Event Utility does stop the bluescreen but after reaching the desktop the CCC refuses to launch. |
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Odd, i just noticed something, when the BSOD occurs, and windows successuflly loads up, the CCC loads, but the overdrive tab looks like this:
![]() This is back on the intel rig... amd rig still appears to work fine though.
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