chris75

Hi (and sorry for my bad english),

I downloaded and installed the kx drivers yesterday for the first time, and they work great with my SB Live Value. But there´s just one big problem. I made songs with Cakewalk Musik Creator, that contains Midi AND Audio tracks. For playing the midi tracks, I use of course the KX Synth driver (I´ve loaded a SFbank on the KX mixer). For the audio tracks, I tried all available drivers (ASIO, WDM, MME). The problem was always the same.

Ok, it´s the following: When I start to playback the song, especially the audio tracks make some noise or dissapear completely (sometimes on the left, sometimes right, sometimes both channels). But it´s no classical dropout because of CPU usage. Always the same, no matter which audio driver I use.

When I go to the Cakewalk menu and deselect the Kx Synth (Midi), all the audio tracks work fine. But of course it´s no solution, because I can´t hear the midi tracks then. On the other side, when I deselect the audio drivers, the midi tracks work fine. But I can´t playback audio and midi tracks at the same time.

I also tried different DSP configurations, but it didn´t help.

I also tried playing the same song with the original creative drivers, and it worked without problems. But there must be also a way to get that working with the Kx drivers.

Thanks for any help.

Chris

dj_stick

load a soundfont into kX to get the midi synths working

Read the getting started guide in my sig for instructions on how to do so

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chris75

Yes, but that´s not the problem (working with midi since years and have of course loaded the sfbank). My problem is, that I can´t playback songs that contain audio AND midi tracks. Audio separately and midi separately works fine.

TravelRec.

So what is your system config (hardware / OS)?

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chris75

I´m working with that system:

- Win98 SE
- Mainboard: Epox 8kta3pro (with VIA Kt133a, I know about the troubles when using SBlive with Kt133a, but it seems to work fine with the original creative drivers, all VIA patches are installed)
- 256 MB SDRam
- Athlon C, 1,33 Ghz
- Music software: Cakewalk Music Creator
- Soundcard: SBlive Value 47 CT4780


The songs, I wrote at my previous posts, don´t contain more than 10 tracks. Even with my old AWE32 it works fine to playback them.

Maddogg6

Im wondering if thats a bug in CW Music creator - Sonar works great as long as the audio is recorded at 48Khz and NOT 44Khz. - Which is the problem I ran into - cakewalks default to 44Khz - So with old drivers, I recoreded in that bitrate. But now, I HAVE to export - convert to 48Khz - re-import into sonar - to fix my problem - I wonder if they are same problem with different symptoms. (sonar would stop at the point an audio clip with 44Khz starts - like at measure 7 - sonar runs up to that point then complains about a sample rate not supported by the sound card.
Sonar has a settable 'default recording samplerate' - I had to change this to 48 from 44 I used to use.

Another thing to be aware of - Sonar 2 XL did not work with my video capture device's audio driver enabled - I had all kinds of weird problems until I figured that one out.
Make sure ONLY kx drivers are enabled. Some adobe products have started installing an audio driver for some reason - I disabled that one just for good measure, dont know if it causes any problems, but after my long hard lesson... I dont take them chances anymore.

TravelRec.

Don´t enable any other sound device than the SB-Live, uninstall all other devices and de-activate them in BIOS. Unistall all other soundcard drivers. Uninstall current kX-package completely, clear registry settings when prompted during uninstall process. Re-install a fresh 3537 kX-package and be sure that only the Live-card is the single installed sound and MIDI device. Set the sample rate of your audio project to 48kHz, set hardware acceleration in multimedia properties to "full". At last: try to update your OS to Win2000 or XP - they have better multimedia support that may help to fix your problem (had this issue too with ´98SE on my system). Good luck!

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chris75

Thanks for your help!
@Maddogg, I´m not shure if it is a Cakewalk bug, because it works with all other drivers fine.

@TravelRec, I already tried everything you described (except changing my OS). I even did a completely new installation of win98, to be sure, there are no more settings or entries from old devices. It didn´t help.



Some more things I found out:

- The audio errors only appear, when there is a midi track which is assigned to KXSynth1 or KXSynth2.

- It doesnt´t matter, how many tracks there are. Even one midi track is enough, to cause that problem

- When I don´t load any Soundfontbank, audio tracks play without error (even if KXSynth tracks are active).

- I´ve assigned one directX effect plugin to a audio track. When I remove the plugin, everything works fine.

- I tried the older APSLive 1.84 driver today. The error didn´t happen, even when directX effect plugins and the KXSynth device are used at the same time.

TravelRec.

It sounds exactly like the problem I had, it seems to be an OS-problem, I fear you have to update...

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