Vienna and kX MIDI implementation

jojobubo · Nov 2, 2007, 08:47 AM

Hi.
Excuse me, but my english is not good.
In Vienna Sound Font Studio was ability to modify LFO parameters in Modulator Properties (in Global Zone
for example). I used for example this assignment: Mod Wheel (cc1) --- "Modulation LFO to Volume"
(Tremolo) instead of "Vibrato LFO Pitch " (Vibrato) now. After aplication of new kX-MIDI implementation
is this possibility invalid. Why? I need this feature, please.
I try to use AWE NRPNs in Cakewalk, but "LFO1 to Volume" not work as continuos function, but it works as
constant effect without reference to the value.
I need this setting. Is possible this to solve anyway ?
Likewise: cc 021 - Enhance 1
cc 022 - Enhance 2
cc 023 - Enhance 3
cc 024 - Enhance 4
I used these controllers on various purposes. Are these controllers the same as controllers
16 - General Purpose 1 [10k2 SendE Amount]
17 - General Purpose 2 [10k2 SendF Amount]
18 - General Purpose 3 [10k2 SendG Amount]
19 - General Purpose 4 [10k2 SendH Amount]
How I assign to these controllers some function, for example Freq.LFO1 ?
Is possibility of 'Legacy mode' setting, as a in Vienna Sound Font Studio 2.3 or 2.4 ?
Or is possibility of custom MIDI implementation ?
Note: I have sound card SB Live! 5.1, it has EMU 10k1 chip.

Thanks.

Maddogg6 · Nov 8, 2007, 04:19 PM

CC# 16-19 are for 10K2 cards only... so they will mean nothing for you.

Also, Vienna 2.4 is supporting SF2.1 features (for X-FI support), kX only supports SF 2.01 features - and those modulator routing is SF 2.1 IIRC... so, you maybe able to adjust them in vienna, but kX wont use them (SF was designed with 'backwards compatibility' in mind)

as far as I know, to have the mod wheel to cause a varying volume, as opposed to the default of applying to pitch is not possible. You can do it manually by sending a series of CC7 in the waveform you desire. Sonar had ability to DRAW waveforms in the CC editor of the piano roll editor easily (was dropped tho).

You could also..
Open the kX Router - Save kX router settings...
Then Assign a kX Synth MIDI channel to use say FXB 11/12 for SEND A/B FXBuss - and connect Max M's Tremolo DSP plugin (*I think* its packaged with his UFX plugin pack - search the kX DSP forum - stickied at the top) to FXBuss 11/12... I think you'll like his tremolo effect - as it includes panning too

Then assign an un-used CC in kX Automation to control what ever you want (like depth) - and send that CC to kX CONTROL midi port.

jojobubo · Nov 12, 2007, 04:29 AM

Thanks.
I installed kX Drivers 3539-full, but tehse dont include Tremolo effect in DSP list (command "Swap by" in kX DSP - there are a lot of effects, but no Tremolo ). Where do I obtain this effect?

Maddogg6 · Nov 12, 2007, 09:13 AM

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- and connect Max M's Tremolo DSP plugin (*I think* its packaged with his UFX plugin pack - search the kX DSP forum - stickied at the top

Plugins in Uniform ("UFX")

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Quote:

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jojobubo · Nov 14, 2007, 04:50 AM

Yes, I accept.

octave · Nov 16, 2007, 12:48 PM

Programs which seem to be able to translate controllers (I haven't used them):
Midi Fish - a realtime MIDI data translator
MIDIOX

Maddogg6 · Nov 16, 2007, 01:29 PM

Cakewalk can also translate.... no extra software needed in the OP's case.

Just to make clear of things...

Sound Font related CC's are sent to that kX Synth midi port....
kX Control port is for kX automations ONLY and have NO affect on kX Synths directly (unless a kx Automated plugin is in line with any fX Buss' related to kX synths - Default for SBLives; FXB 2/3(main) & 14(reverb send) & 15(Chorus Send)

edit... the above should instead read:

Quote:

Default for SBLives; FXB 2/3(main) & 13(reverb send) & 14(Chorus Send)

Nov 2, 2007, 08:47 AM	#1
jojobubo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Vienna and kX MIDI implementation Hi. Excuse me, but my english is not good. In Vienna Sound Font Studio was ability to modify LFO parameters in Modulator Properties (in Global Zone for example). I used for example this assignment: Mod Wheel (cc1) --- "Modulation LFO to Volume" (Tremolo) instead of "Vibrato LFO Pitch " (Vibrato) now. After aplication of new kX-MIDI implementation is this possibility invalid. Why? I need this feature, please. I try to use AWE NRPNs in Cakewalk, but "LFO1 to Volume" not work as continuos function, but it works as constant effect without reference to the value. I need this setting. Is possible this to solve anyway ? Likewise: cc 021 - Enhance 1 cc 022 - Enhance 2 cc 023 - Enhance 3 cc 024 - Enhance 4 I used these controllers on various purposes. Are these controllers the same as controllers 16 - General Purpose 1 [10k2 SendE Amount] 17 - General Purpose 2 [10k2 SendF Amount] 18 - General Purpose 3 [10k2 SendG Amount] 19 - General Purpose 4 [10k2 SendH Amount] How I assign to these controllers some function, for example Freq.LFO1 ? Is possibility of 'Legacy mode' setting, as a in Vienna Sound Font Studio 2.3 or 2.4 ? Or is possibility of custom MIDI implementation ? Note: I have sound card SB Live! 5.1, it has EMU 10k1 chip. Thanks.

Nov 8, 2007, 04:19 PM	#2
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 36	CC# 16-19 are for 10K2 cards only... so they will mean nothing for you. Also, Vienna 2.4 is supporting SF2.1 features (for X-FI support), kX only supports SF 2.01 features - and those modulator routing is SF 2.1 IIRC... so, you maybe able to adjust them in vienna, but kX wont use them (SF was designed with 'backwards compatibility' in mind) as far as I know, to have the mod wheel to cause a varying volume, as opposed to the default of applying to pitch is not possible. You can do it manually by sending a series of CC7 in the waveform you desire. Sonar had ability to DRAW waveforms in the CC editor of the piano roll editor easily (was dropped tho). You could also.. Open the kX Router - Save kX router settings... Then Assign a kX Synth MIDI channel to use say FXB 11/12 for SEND A/B FXBuss - and connect Max M's Tremolo DSP plugin (I think its packaged with his UFX plugin pack - search the kX DSP forum - stickied at the top) to FXBuss 11/12... I think you'll like his tremolo effect - as it includes panning too Then assign an un-used CC in kX Automation to control what ever you want (like depth) - and send that CC to kX CONTROL midi port.

Nov 12, 2007, 04:29 AM	#3
jojobubo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Thanks. I installed kX Drivers 3539-full, but tehse dont include Tremolo effect in DSP list (command "Swap by" in kX DSP - there are a lot of effects, but no Tremolo ). Where do I obtain this effect?

Nov 14, 2007, 04:50 AM	#5
jojobubo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Yes, I accept.

Nov 16, 2007, 12:48 PM	#6
octave DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 39 Rep Power: 0	Programs which seem to be able to translate controllers (I haven't used them): Midi Fish - a realtime MIDI data translator MIDIOX