Soundfont disapeared after reboot

piterplus · Feb 21, 2003, 09:38 AM

SB LIve!5.1
Soltek 75DRV5-C
Thoroughbred 1700@2600
VIA 4 in 1 Hyperion
Just installed new KX drivers & liked them immediately!
Uploaded my favorite soundfont (26 Mb) & saved current configuration in the according tab from mixer tray icon- no problem, everything plays correctly.
But after reboot I discovered that sound bank is empty....
I have a feeling that missed something, but i have read carefully all documents & didnt find anything concerning that field...
Please, show me the right way to save soundfont config ...?
Thanks in advance

RIV@NVX · Feb 21, 2003, 04:37 PM

Which version of kX are you using?

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Feb 21, 2003, 09:32 PM

does kX Mixer load on startup automatically? if not - it is not correctly installed
it is not required to save / load settings -- they should be restored automatically on reboot

/Eugene

piterplus · Feb 23, 2003, 07:56 AM

I'm using latest (3529) KX version
As for mixer loading on startup- it did, but I intensionally disabled it - to free memory. (It takes about 10 megs)
Does it mean that soundbanks loaded only along with mixer?

Mata Hari · Feb 23, 2003, 10:45 AM

Yes, soundfonts are loaded in memory, along with the mixer... it can even peak at double the soundfont size sometimes... (1 for initially loading, and 1 for transfering that loaded memory over to the kernel I think)

atleast... something like this I think... (I use a 82mb soundfont, and when looking at peak memory use, I get something like 170 mb... but normal memory use would be something like 90 mb)

(atleast, I THINK it works like this, or used to work like this... I havn't actually checked this lately)

piterplus · Feb 24, 2003, 05:03 AM

Thanks,
At last problem source understood, if not solved...
Now i have noticed that if I allow mixer to load at startup - soundfont is present (that exlained its VERY long loading time, even freezes... )
About memory consumption of mixer- it takes 10 Mb without any soundfont - just mixer program - too much in my opinion, but.... its much easier to criticise, than to produce something.
Enyway, good job was done & some tradeoffs is quite understandable
I think all clear now & question may be considered closed

Mata Hari · Feb 24, 2003, 07:27 AM

well, even the 10 mb is explainable... The kX driver (and thus also the mixer) are always in development, and thus are build with debug libraries (dll's) instead of the "normal" small, no debug libraries...
Debug libraries always carrie much much more info with them, so they can give more usefull information, when the program crashes.

Feb 21, 2003, 09:38 AM	#1
piterplus DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Peterburg Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Soundfont disapeared after reboot SB LIve!5.1 Soltek 75DRV5-C Thoroughbred 1700@2600 VIA 4 in 1 Hyperion Just installed new KX drivers & liked them immediately! Uploaded my favorite soundfont (26 Mb) & saved current configuration in the according tab from mixer tray icon- no problem, everything plays correctly. But after reboot I discovered that sound bank is empty.... I have a feeling that missed something, but i have read carefully all documents & didnt find anything concerning that field... Please, show me the right way to save soundfont config ...? Thanks in advance

Feb 21, 2003, 04:37 PM	#2
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,480 Rep Power: 53 System Specs	Which version of kX are you using? __________________ -- Vedran

Feb 21, 2003, 09:32 PM	#3
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,037 Rep Power: 56	does kX Mixer load on startup automatically? if not - it is not correctly installed it is not required to save / load settings -- they should be restored automatically on reboot /Eugene

Feb 23, 2003, 07:56 AM	#4
piterplus DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Peterburg Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	I'm using latest (3529) KX version As for mixer loading on startup- it did, but I intensionally disabled it - to free memory. (It takes about 10 megs) Does it mean that soundbanks loaded only along with mixer?

Feb 23, 2003, 10:45 AM	#5
Mata Hari DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 210 Rep Power: 0	Yes, soundfonts are loaded in memory, along with the mixer... it can even peak at double the soundfont size sometimes... (1 for initially loading, and 1 for transfering that loaded memory over to the kernel I think) atleast... something like this I think... (I use a 82mb soundfont, and when looking at peak memory use, I get something like 170 mb... but normal memory use would be something like 90 mb) (atleast, I THINK it works like this, or used to work like this... I havn't actually checked this lately)

Feb 24, 2003, 05:03 AM	#6
piterplus DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Peterburg Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Thanks, At last problem source understood, if not solved... Now i have noticed that if I allow mixer to load at startup - soundfont is present (that exlained its VERY long loading time, even freezes... ) About memory consumption of mixer- it takes 10 Mb without any soundfont - just mixer program - too much in my opinion, but.... its much easier to criticise, than to produce something. Enyway, good job was done & some tradeoffs is quite understandable I think all clear now & question may be considered closed

Feb 24, 2003, 07:27 AM	#7
Mata Hari DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 210 Rep Power: 0	well, even the 10 mb is explainable... The kX driver (and thus also the mixer) are always in development, and thus are build with debug libraries (dll's) instead of the "normal" small, no debug libraries... Debug libraries always carrie much much more info with them, so they can give more usefull information, when the program crashes.