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Old Mar 2, 2004, 07:25 AM   #1
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winxp: bass & treble disabled

â êõ-ìèêøåðå âîîáùå ò*êèõ **ñòðîåê ñ*áæåâûõ **ñòðîåê *å **ø¸ë, âñ¸ îáûñê*ë.
* â ðîä*îì âè*äîâîì ìèêøåðå â ìå*þ options ã*ëê* ñòîèò ** advanced controls, *î ýòîò ïó*ê *å*êòèâå*. ê*îïî÷êè advanced, ñîîòâåòñòâå**î ñ*èçó *åòó.

âîïðîñ: ê*ê ðåãóëèðîâ*òü bass & treble c äð*éâåð*ìè êõ? âåðñèÿ ïîñëåä*ÿÿ.

ñïð*âåäëèâîñòè ð*äè ñòîèò îòìåòèòü, ÷òî ð**üøå ** âè*2ê ýòè ï*ð*ìåòðû áûëè äîñòóï*û. òîê* âîò â âè*õð ò*ê*ÿ ïðîáëåì*..
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Old Mar 2, 2004, 01:53 PM   #2
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>â êõ-ìèêøåðå âîîáùå ò*êèõ **ñòðîåê ñ*áæåâûõ **ñòðîåê *å **ø¸ë, âñ¸ îáûñê*ë.

Åñëè ê*ðòî÷ê* Audigy òî âìåñòî òåìáðîáëîê* ãð*ôè÷åñêèé ýêâ*ë*éçåð.

>âîïðîñ: ê*ê ðåãóëèðîâ*òü bass & treble c äð*éâåð*ìè êõ? âåðñèÿ ïîñëåä*ÿÿ.

Ñîîòâåñòâå**î â kX DSP ** ìåñòî ýêâ*ë*éçåð* ç*ãðóçèòü ìîäóëü "Timbre"... ñð*çó ïðåäóïðåæä*þ ÷òî, òåì êîìó *ð*âèòñÿ ïîäç*äð*òü êðå*òèâîâñêèé "Bass/Treble" ** ì*êñèìóì, ê*èêñîâñêèé òåìáðîáëîê âðÿäëè ïîäîéäåò, ïîñêîëüêó ç*òî÷å* ïîä "ìÿãêóþ" (ýýý.. ãìì. "ñóáòèëü*óþ") è "ë*ñêîâóþ" êîððåêöèþ (ò.å. ïðÿìîïðîòèâîïîëîæ*î òîìó ÷òî â ðîä*ûõ äðîâ*õ).... Ê*ê â*ðè**ò ìîæ*î ïðåäëîæèòü ïîñò*âèòü ï*ð*ìåòðè÷åñêèé ýêâ*ë*éçåð - è ò*ì **ðóëèòü ëþáóþ òðåáóåìóþ *÷õ (â òîì ÷èñëå è òî÷*óþ êîïèþ êðå*òèâîâñêîãî òåìáðîáëîê*)

>÷òî ð**üøå ** âè*2ê ýòè ï*ð*ìåòðû áûëè äîñòóï*û. òîê* âîò â âè*õð ò*ê*ÿ ïðîáëåì*..

Ïîìåðåùèëîñü ñêîðåå âñåãî... (ò.å. kX *å äîëæå* ïîê*çûâ*òü Bass/Treble â âè*ìèêøåðå *è â îä*îé èç ïîääåðæèâ*åìûõ âåðñèé windows)
Ê ñîæ*ëå*èþ, *åò *èê*êîé âîçìîæ*îñòè ïðåäñò*âèòü "ìîäóëü*óþ" ñòðóêòóðó kX ÷åðåç Windows Mixer API (è ê*ê ñëåäñòâèå ÷åðåç âè*äîâûé ìèêøåð)...
Îòñþä* îä** èç ïåðâûõ ðåêîìå*ä*öèé ïðè ïåðåõîäå ** ê*èêñ - ïîñò*ð*òüñÿ ç*áûòü ïðî sndvol32 (è ïîëüçîâ*òüñÿ kxmixer)
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ñï*ñèáî ç* îòâåò.
ê*ðòî÷ê* sblive.
ïðîñòî ÿ, ïðèç**òüñÿ, ä*æå è *å äóì*ë ÷òî ýòè **ñòðîéêè óò*èëèñü â timbre. áåä* êõ äð*éâåðîâ, ÷òî ò*ì *å âñ¸ è*òóèòèâ*î ïî*ÿò*î. ÿ ïî*èì*þ, ÷òî äð*âåéð* *å äëÿ ÷*é*èêîâ, *î è î*è, ñëó÷*åòñÿ, ëþáÿò ïîñëóø*òü õîðîøèé çâóê. * *åëüçÿ èì ìåø*òü, èìõî. äèç*é* ìèêøåð*, êõì.. _ìÿõêî ãîâîðÿ_ îñò*âëÿåò æåë*òü ëó÷øåãî. þç*áèëèòè ñòðåìèòñÿ ê *óëþ è *å òî, ÷òîáû ÿ ã*äîñòè õî÷ó ñê*ç*òü, *åò. ïðîñòî ýòî äåéñòâèòåëü*î ò*ê. ëó÷øèé äèç*é* â ä***îì ñëó÷*å - äåôîëò*ûé. òîáèøü âè*äîâûé. îêîøêè, ñë*éäåðû è ò.ï. â ÊÕ-äð*éâåð*õ ñêè*û _ÍÅ ÍÓÆÍÛ_. èìõî, êî*å÷*î æå. ê*ê äèç*é*åð* ) ìå*üøå öâåòîâ, ñâåòëûé ôî*, ò¸ì*ûé øðèôò (ëåãêî ÷èò*åìûé), ïîáîëüøå ïîäïèñåé ê ýëåìå*ò*ì, * *å èêî*îê, êîòîðûå ì*ëî òîãî, ÷òî *å âñåãä* îòîáð*æ*þò ñóòü (ä* õîòü ïîòîìó, ÷òî ê*æäûé âîñïðè*èì*åò ê*ðòè*êè ïî-ñâîåìó), ä* åù¸ è *å âñå ç*ìîð*÷èâ*þòñÿ èõ èçó÷å*èåì.

ìîäóëü **ø¸ë. ñï*ñèáî. ïîêðóòèë. äîá*âèë *åì*îæêî, ê*ê è õîòåë. ò*ê *ð*âèòñÿ áîëüøå. ïî äåôîëòó ñëèøêîì ñóõî, *ó óæ î÷å*ü.. âïðî÷åì, ê*æäîìó ñâî¸ ) * âîîáùå çâóê *ð*âèòñÿ è êõ è âîò ñåé÷*ñ òîëüêî âûøåäøèõ ðîä*ûõ äðîâ îò 28.02.04 ê*æèñü. ó êõ ÷èñòûé êðèñò*ëü*ûé çâóê, * ó ðîä*ûõ áîëåå **ñûùå**ûé, **âåð*îå ç*äð***ûé ò*ì êóä*-òî ) *î *ð*âèòñÿ è òîò è äðóãîé, êîãä* óñò*þ îò îä*îãî çâóê* ïåðåñò*âëÿþ äð*éâåð* è **ñë*æä*þñü ïåðåìå*îé. îá* *ð*âÿòñÿ ) ñï*ñèáî ç* *ëüòåð**òèâó.

**ñ÷¸ò âè*2ê, âñ¸ æå áûëè ò*ì ýòè ï*ð*ìåòðû. êî*å÷*î æå ð*áîò*ëè î*è *å ò*ê, ê*ê ** ðîä*ûõ äð*éâåð*õ. **ïðèìåð, äâèã*ÿ ïîëçó*îê îò 0 äî 70-80 èçìå*å*èÿ â çâóêå áûëè *åç**÷èòåëü*ûå, ç*òî ñ 70-80 äî 100 ÷óâñòâèòåëü*îñòü ðåçêî ïîâûø*ë*ñü.

> îä** èç ïåðâûõ ðåêîìå*ä*öèé ïðè ïåðåõîäå ** ê*èêñ - ïîñò*ð*òüñÿ ç*áûòü ïðî sndvol32 (è ïîëüçîâ*òüñÿ kxmixer)

ÿ áû ä*, *î ÿ âûøå óæå ïåðå÷èñëèë ïî÷åìó *åò. ä*. þç*áèëèòè. ä* åù¸ ó÷èòûâ*ÿ, ÷òî â îñ*îâ*îì **ðîäó-òî è òðåáóåòñÿ òîëüêî ãðîìêîñòü ïîêðóòèòü ä* ï*ðó ã*ëîê ïðîñò*âèòü. óâåðå*, ñî ñòîðî*û ð*çð*áîò÷èêîâ, áûëî áû âåñüì* ãð*ìîò*ûì ø*ãîì ð*çäåëå*èÿ ë¸ãêèõ **ñòðîåê è äîï.**ñòðîåê â ð*ç*ûå ìîäóëè. â êðóï*ûõ êîìï**èÿõ ýòèì ç**èì*þòñÿ ñïåöè*ëü*ûå ñîáð***ûå êîìèññèè ïî ýòîìó ïîâîäó, êîòîðûå ó÷èòûâ*þò âñåâîçìîæ*óþ ñò*òèñòèêó è ïð ) ó *èõ ** ýòî åñòü äå*üãè, * ÷òî äåë*òü êõ-ð*çð*áîò÷èê*ì, êîòîðûå åëå óñïåâ*þò òåõ*è÷åñêóþ ÷*ñòü ) ïî*èì*þ-ïî*èì*þ. ñ*ì óïð*âëÿþ ò*êîé public-free ñòðóêòóðîé, òðåáóþùåé ìîåãî âðåìå*è + êó÷* ïðåäëîæå*èé îò ïîëüçîâ*òåëåé )
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*ó è ñë*â*å*üêî....

ê*ñ*åìî îñò*ëü*îãî.. *ó âñå ïð*âèëü*î.. òîëüêî ýòî ëó÷øå *îâóþ âåòêó ñîçä*â*òü, * åùå ëó÷øå ïîäñîåäè*ÿòüñÿ ê óæå ñóùåñòâóþùèì âåòê*ì (** ïîñë. äâóõ ñòð**èö*õ îñîáå**î ì*îãî áûëî ñê*ç**î ïî ýòîìó âîïðîñó) ...

Ð*çâå ÷òî îä** "ñâåæ*ÿ" ìûñëü (*å óòâåðæäå*èå *î è*ôîðì*öèÿ ê ð*çìûøëå*èþ):

> **ðîäó-òî è òðåáóåòñÿ òîëüêî ... óâåðå*, ñî ñòîðî*û ð*çð*áîò÷èêîâ, ...

*ó ä*, *î âåð*î ýòî òîëüêî ïðè óñëîâèè ÷òî "ð*çð*áîò÷èêîâ âîîáùå è*òåðåñóåò êîë-âî ïîëüçîâ*òåëåé"... * âîò ýòî óæå, ** ñ*ìîì äåëå, *è îòêóä* *å ñëåäóåò ;)

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Old Mar 5, 2004, 08:58 PM   #5
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>> äèç*é* ìèêøåð*, êõì.. _ìÿõêî ãîâîðÿ_ îñò*âëÿåò æåë*òü ëó÷øåãî


âñÿ ïðåëåñòü â òîì, ÷òî ì*å*èÿ ïî ýòîìó âîïðîñó ïðÿìî ïðîòèâîïîëîæ*ûå -- îò "êðóòî, óñò*ë îò ýòèõ ñêó÷*ûõ ñòðîãèõ ôîðì" äî "*öòîé. ãäå ìîÿ ëþáèì*ÿ ñõåì* *-ëÿ win xp" èëè "êî*ñîëü, êî*ñîëü ñ êîìì**ä*îé ñòðîêîé **ì!"

â î÷åðåä*îé ð*ç âûñê*æó ñâîþ òî÷êó çðå*èÿ: ëþáîé æåë*þùèé ìîæåò óáèòü, ñê*æåì, 2-3 ä*ÿ ñâîåãî äð*ãîöå**îãî âðåìå*è è ñäåë*òü "plain skin" áåç ê*ðòè*îê è òîëüêî ñ òåêñòîâûìè ïîäïèñÿìè -- áë*ãî, ýòî âîçìîæ*î
ç* 2 ãîä* *è îä*îãî æåë*þùåãî *å **øëîñü...
ìîð*ëü, ê*ê ãîâîðèòüñÿ, ** ïîâåðõ*îñòè

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Ãäå êî*êðåò*î ñêðûâ*åòñÿ ïðîñò*ÿ ðåãóëèðîâê* òåìáð* (Í×/Â×)?
 DSP èëè â AC97 ÖÀÏ?. Âåäü êîäåê èìååò ñîáñòâå**óþ ðåãóëèðîâêó
è ñ ó÷åòîì åãî 18 áèò âûãîä*åå ðåãóëèðîâ*òü ò*ì, * *å ñë*òü îáð*áîò***îå audio ÷åðåç AC97link.
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(òóò ÿ òèï* ïîäáåã*þ ñç*äè è çëî ò*ê áóá*þ )

>Âåäü êîäåê èìååò ñîáñòâå**óþ ðåãóëèðîâêó

Âîïðîñ ** ç*ñûïêó: ** ê*êèõ ìîäåëÿõ Live èëè Audigy ñòîèò êîäåê ñ **ëè÷èåì ò*êîé ðåãóëèðâêè?

>è ñ ó÷åòîì åãî 18 áèò âûãîä*åå

Ýòè âîñåì**äö*òü áèò â ðå*ëü*îñòè ñêîðåå ôèêöèÿ (èç ñåðèè "ð*çð*áîò÷èêè øóòÿò")

>* *å ñë*òü îáð*áîò***îå audio ÷åðåç AC97link.

À åñëè ó ìå*ÿ çâóê **ðóæó ïî öèôðå? èëè ÷åðåç ôèëèïñîâñêèé êîäåê ** òûë*õ? À â Audigy ò*ê âîîáùå kX ÷åðåç AC97 *è ÷åãî *å øëåò... ×òî äåë*òü?

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