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Old Nov 17, 2003, 08:58 AM   #1
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24/48 ç*ïèñü è âîñïðîèçâåäå*èå

Ïîäñê*æèòå, ê*ê ç*ïèñ*òü 24bit ñèã**ë â Audigy2 ÎÅÌ?... Ñèòó*öèÿ ïðîñò*ÿ - åñòü ì*òåðè*ë êîòîðûé **äî îöèôðîâ*òü (âè*èë), åñòü CoolEdit pro 2.0 è åñòü Audigy2 ñ äð*éâåð*ìè kX. Åñëè â Cool Edit ïîñò*âèòü 32/96, ñèã**ë ïèøåòñÿ, âîñïðîèçâîäèòñÿ, *î ÿâ*î âèä*î ÷òî ýòî òå æå 16/48. WaveHQ ** ç*ïèñè CoolEdit âèäèò *î ñèã**ë ñ *åãî *å ç*áèð*åò ïî÷åìó-òî... Îòâåòüòå - õîòü êîðîòêî, * òî **äî ïåðåã**òü ïë*ñòè*êè * î÷å*ü *å õî÷åòñÿ èìåÿ Audigy2 ïèñ*òü â 16/48... Òåì áîëåå ïîòîì îáð*á*òûâ*òü...

È - õîòåëîñü áû óç**òü, ê*ê **ñòðîèòü DSP äëÿ êîððåêò*îãî âîñïðîèçâåäå*èÿ 24bit|48khZ? Åñëè â DSP ïðîñòî ç*ìå*èòü FxBUS ** FxBUSX, ***ëîãè÷*î ñîåäè*èâ ñ äðóãèìè ýëåìå*ò*ìè, âñå ð*â*î âîñïðîèçâîäèòñÿ 16... Èëè ä*éòå ññûëêó ïîæ*ëóéñò* - ê*ê **ñòðîèòü... Í*ñêîëüêî ÿ ïî*èì*þ, WaveHQ ð*áîò*åò ñ 24/96, â ñëó÷*å 24/48 åãî âêëþ÷*òü *åò ñìûñë*.
Åñòü ëè âîçìîæ*îñòü ê*ê-ëèáî **ñòðîèòü WaveHQ (**ïðèìåð - Bass redirect) â äð*éâåð*õ kX è åñëè *åò - ïîÿâèòñÿ ëè î** â áóäóùåì?... Í*ñêîëüêî ÿ ïî*ÿë, DSP ïðè èñïîëüçîâ**èè WaveHQ *å ð*áîò*åò.

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Old Nov 21, 2003, 07:31 PM   #2
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>Åñëè â Cool Edit ïîñò*âèòü 32/96, ñèã**ë ïèøåòñÿ, âîñïðîèçâîäèòñÿ, *î ÿâ*î âèä*î ÷òî ýòî òå æå 16/48

*ó ä* ñ îáû÷*ûõ ïîðòîâ (ò.å. *å "Wave HQ") ýòî òîò æå 16/48 "äîáèòûé" äî 32.96 (ïðè÷åì *å ê*ðòîé èëè äð*éâåðîì, * ñ*ìèì óè*äîóñîì)

>WaveHQ ** ç*ïèñè CoolEdit âèäèò *î ñèã**ë ñ *åãî *å ç*áèð*åò ïî÷åìó-òî...

Òóò õèòðîñòü, ïîñêîëüêó HQ ýòî ïîðò "ê*ê-áû" âîîáùå "â îáõîä" îñ*îâ*îãî ÷èï* òî èñòî÷*èê ç*ïèñè ääëÿ *åãî âèáèð*åòñÿ *å â "Recording" è *å â "kX DSP" (ò.å. ê*ê îáû÷*î) * ** ãë*â*îé ñòð**èöå
ìèêøåð* ïîä ëåéáëîì p16v
(ïðè÷åì ÿ *å ñîâñåì óâåðå* ÷òî Cool è kX ïð*âèëü*î äðóã äðóã* ïîéìóò ò.ê. ñóùåñòâóþò ÷åòûðå ð*ç*ûõ âèä* 24...32 áèò*îãî ïðåäñò*âëå*èÿ è kX èñï. òîò êîòîðûé ñîáñòâå**î æåëåçêîé **ïðÿìóþ âûä*åòñÿ - õîòÿ â êóëå âðîäå âñå î*è åñòü è **ñòðîéêè ñîîòâåòñâóþùèå ïðèñóòñòâóþò - ò*ê ÷òî ïèøèòå î ðåçóëüò*ò*õ)

>Åñòü ëè âîçìîæ*îñòü ê*ê-ëèáî **ñòðîèòü WaveHQ (**ïðèìåð - Bass redirect) â äð*éâåð*õ kX è åñëè *åò - ïîÿâèòñÿ ëè î** â áóäóùåì?...

Âîçìîæ*îñòè *åò îïÿòü æå ïî òîé ïðè÷è*å ÷òî HQ èäåò â îáõîä dsp (ò.å. âûáîð âïîë*å îïðåäåëå**ûé: "èëè îáð*áîòê* èëè 24/96")
(÷èñòî òåîðåòè÷åñêè âñåãä* ìîæ*î ïðèìå*èòü ê*êîé-*èáóäü òðþê (ïî êð*é*åé ìåðå â ïë**å 24/48...) *î ïî-ïð*âäå ò*ì è ò*ê óæå "êîïåðôèëüä ** êîïåðôèëüäå ñèäèò è êîïåðôèëüäîì ïîãî*ÿåò" - ñ*ìèì áû *å ç*ïóò*òüñÿ - ò*ê ÷òî â áóäóùåì "24/96 ñ BassRedirection" *å îáåù*åòñÿ)

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Old Dec 12, 2003, 08:35 AM   #3
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> HQ ýòî ïîðò "ê*ê-áû" âîîáùå "â îáõîä" îñ*îâ*îãî ÷èï* òî èñòî÷*èê ç*ïèñè ääëÿ *åãî âèáèð*åòñÿ *å â "Recording" è *å â "kX DSP" (ò.å. ê*ê îáû÷*î) * ** ãë*â*îé ñòð**èöå
ìèêøåð* ïîä ëåéáëîì p16v


Îá*îâèë äð*éâåð* äî 3536, äîëãî ð*çáèð*ëñÿ â DSP, ÷èò*ë ñò*òüè ** ñ*éòå, *î *èê*ê *å ìîãó ïî*ÿòü ïðîñòîé âåùè - ê*êîé âõîä **äî âûáð*òü ** ãë*â*îé ñòð**èöå ìèêøåð* kX è ** ê*êîé ð*çüåì ** ê*ðòå ïîä*òü ñèã**ë?...
ß ò*ê ïî*èì*þ, ÷òî ñèã**ë, ïîä*â*åìûé ** îáû÷*ûé Line In, ç*ïèñ*òü â 24/96 ** Audigy 2 *åâîçìîæ*î...
Åñòü ëè âîçìîæ*îñòü ê*ê-ëèáî êî*òðîëèðîâ*òü óðîâå*ü ç*ïèñè ïðè ç*ïèñè ÷åðåç WaveHQ?...

È åùå âîïðîñ - ïðî ñ*ì ïë*ãè* p16v... Âîïðîñ ïðîñòîé - äëÿ ÷åãî î* *óæå*?... =((... Î* æå åñòü ** DSP - äëÿ ÷åãî, åñëè WaveHQ âñå ð*â*î ê*ê âû ãîâîðèòå - îòäåëü*îå óñòðîéñòâî.... À â p16v signal flow óê*ç**î ÷òî ýòîò ïë*ãè* *óæå* ê*ê ð*ç äëÿ ç*ïèñè 24/96

Ïîäñê*æèòå ïëç, î÷å*ü **äî... Í* ñ*ìîì äåëå ç*ä*÷* ïðîñò*ÿ - **äî ñ ì*êñèì*ëü*î âîçìîæ*ûì ê*÷åñòâîì (äëÿ audigy 2 ýòî 24/96) ïåðåïèñ*òü öå**ûå ïë*ñòè*êè...
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>> Åñòü ëè âîçìîæ*îñòü ê*ê-ëèáî êî*òðîëèðîâ*òü óðîâå*ü ç*ïèñè ïðè ç*ïèñè ÷åðåç WaveHQ

'master record level' (** ñòð**è÷êå "ç*ïèñü")
èñòî÷*èê äëÿ ç*ïèñè âûáèð*åòñÿ ** ãë*â*îé ñòð**èöå ìèêøåð* (p16v source): òóò **äî èìåòü â âèäó, ÷òî (â **ñòîÿùåå âðåìÿ) ïîñëå ñìå*û èñòî÷*èê* *óæ*î ç*êðûâ*òü è ç**îâî îòêðûâ*òü ïðîãð*ììó ç*ïèñè...

ç*ïèñûâ*òü ÷åðåç *ñ97 line-in ìîæ*î, *î ëó÷øå ýòîãî *å äåë*òü, ò.ê. *èê*êîãî 24\96 ò*ì *åò è âïîìè*å (ò.å., âîçìîæ*î, ïî**äîáèòüñÿ ïîëèñò*òü ôîðóì ** òåìó "ÀÑ97 2" è "Philips UDA")

ïðî ïë*ãè* p16v ìîæ*î ç*áûòü, ò.ê. äëÿ ç*ïèñè î* ** ñ*ìîì äåëå *å *óæå*
(ò.å. ñèã**ë ñ p16v ìîæ*î îòïð*âèòü ** WaveHQ è "ïðîäóáëèðîâ*òü" îáð*ò*î â DSP -- ñîáñòâå**î, òîëüêî äëÿ ýòîãî p16v è *óæå* )

** ñ*ìîì äåëå, ç*ïèñü ïîä p16v *è ð*çó *å ïðîâåðÿë*ñü -- òóò ãë*â*îå óáåäèòüñÿ, ÷òî âñ¸ **ñòðîå*î ïð*âèëü*î. ïðè ç*ïèñè ñ ***ëîãîâûõ èñòî÷*èêîâ **äî ïð*âèëü*î óê*ç*òü ôîðì*ò â çâóêîç*ïèñûâ*þùåé ïðîãð*ììå (24\96) -- è**÷å ç*ïèøóòñÿ "äðóãèå" ä***ûå

âîáùåì, äåëî *åñêîëüêî ïóò***îå -- è *åïðîâåðå**îå -- *î åñëè åñòü æåë**èå ïðîâåðèòü - ìèëîñòè ïðîñèì

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> èñòî÷*èê äëÿ ç*ïèñè âûáèð*åòñÿ ** ãë*â*îé ñòð**èöå ìèêøåð* (p16v source)
Íî ò*ì åñòü:
CD SPDIF
Coaxial
SPDIF C
- ÿ ò*ê ïî*èì*þ, ýòî öèôðîâûå âõîäû, òóä* â ä***îì ñëó÷*å ñèã**ë *å ïîä*åòñÿ,

I2S 0
I2S 1
I2S 2
10K2 0
10K2 1
10K2 2
- * ýòî **âåð*îå âõîäû ñ êîäåêîâ...
ÍÎ: ÊÓÄÀ ÈÌÅÍÍÎ **äî ïîä*òü ñèã**ë îò èñòî÷*èê*, ÷òîáû ïîÿâèë*ñü âîçìîæ*îñòü ç*ïèñûâ*òü â ðåæèìå 24/96?... Ò.å - ** ê*êèå èìå**î ð*çüåìû ê*ðòû?... ß ò*ê ïî*èì*þ, â*óòðå**èå... Íî - ê*êèå èìå**î?... Ê*êèì îáîç**÷å*èÿì ñîîòâåòñòâóþò ê*êèå âõîäû è ê*ê èõ ïåðåêëþ÷èòü?...

È - ê*ê ïî*èì*þ, îòäåëü*ûé ð*çãîâîð ç*ïèñü 24/48... Ïîäñê*æèòå ïëç ãäå ìîæ*î **éòè è*ôó î òîì ê*ê ç*ïèñ*òü â ýòîì ðåæèìå... Õîòÿ - **äåþñü ÷òî ñ 24/96 âñå æå ïîëó÷èòñÿ... Êñò*òè, * ê*ê ýòî ðå*ëèçîâ**î ó êðå*òèâ*?... ß ïîì*þ ÷òî ç*ïèñûâ*ë ** òåõ äð*éâåð*õ ñ ýòèìè ï*ð*ìåòð*ìè â òîì æå CoolEdit *î îïÿòü-ò*êè îùóùå*èå ÷òî *èê*êèå ýòî *å 24/96....

=)) è åùå âîïðîñèê - åñëè *å ñîâñåì **äîåë...
Åñòü ï*ð* ïë*ãè*îâ ê âè**ìïó ãäå ìîæ*î ðåñåìïëè*ã âêëþ÷èòü - ýòî WaveOut SSRC è DirectSound SSRC... Ò*ê âîò - ñ ðåæèìîì 16/48 âñå ÿñ*î, * âîò åñëè èãð*òü 24/48 ÷åðåç kX Wave SB0240o 10K2 (d800) 0/1, òî åñëè èñïîëüçóåòñÿ ïë*ãè* DirectSound - âñå ** ñâîèõ ìåñò*õ, ò.å çåëå*ûå ïîëîñêè â ***ëèç*òîðå, * åñëè WaveOut - ïîëîñêè êð*ñ*ûå... Ñóáüåêòèâ*î - ïî îùóùå*èÿì, ÷åðåç ïåðâûé ïë*ãè* çâóê ïîìÿã÷å ê*ê-òî *î ñò**îâèòñÿ áîëåå ñì*ç***ûì... ïîýòîìó áîëüøå ïîëüçóþñü WaveOut, * âîò ïî÷åìó 24/48 *å ð*áîò*þò ** WaveOut - *å ïî*èì*þ... =(
ÎÑ WinXP Home, Direct X 9.0

Êñò*òè, ** *îâûõ äð*éâåð*õ (3536) çâóê ñò*ë *åñêîëüêî äðóãîé - ïî ñð*â*å*èþ ñ 3534f, åùå áîëåå ÷åòêèé *î è ïîðåç÷å... =) *å ç**þ ïîê* ** ê*êèõ äð*éâåð*õ ëó÷øå =))

Ïî âîïðîñ*ì îïë*òû ç* Â*øó ð*áîòó.. ÿ òîæå èç Ïèòåð*, åñòü ëè åùå ñïîñîáû îïë*òèòü - êðîìå óê*ç***ûõ ** ñ*éòå?... Åñëè åñòü - ä*éòå ç**òü... Ïîì*þ î ñâîåì îáåù**èè, êîãä* îáåù*þ òî äåë*þ.. ;-)... Ïðîñòî äåéñòâèòåëü*î õî÷åòñÿ ð*çîáð*òüñÿ â äð*éâåðå è åãî âîçìîæ*îñòÿõ... À âðåìå*è ** ýòî áûëî *åì*îãî.. =((
Âîîáùå ìîæ*î äîãîâîðèòüñÿ ò*ê: ß ïîñêîëüêó òóò ñëèøêîì ì*îãî âîïðîñîâ ç*ä*þ... =)).. - ä*â*éòå îïë*÷ó äð*éâåð * Âû ð*çüÿñ*èòå ÷òî è ê*ê, êîãä* ïîëó÷èòå äå*üãè, ïî ïî÷òå... *äðåñîê ñêè*ó... Åñòü ïðåäëîæå*èå Â*ì - ò*ê è ïîñòóï*òü ñ òåìè, êòî ç*ä*åò ñëèøêîì ì*îãî âîïðîñîâ... ;-)).... À òî äåéñòâèòåëü*î ê*ê-òî *åõîðîøî ïîëó÷*åòñÿ.. =(
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Îòâåòüòå ïîæ*ëóéñò* - ìîæåò êòî ïèñ*ë 24/96... È*ôû ì*ëî.. =((
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â áëèæ*éøåå âðåìÿ ïîäãîòîâëþ ì*òåðè*ë ïî 24\96 ç*ïèñè
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