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Old Sep 3, 2003, 05:42 PM   #1
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NI Traktor 2.1.1
Ó ìå*ÿ ïðîáëåìû ñ **ñòðîéêîé NI Traktor 2.1.1 : Ïðè ëþáûõ êîìáè**öèÿõ âûõîäîâ ASIO ** ìî*èòîð è êîëî*êè â *èõ èãð*åò îä*î è òî æå â *åç*âèñèìîñòè îò **ñòðîåê ASIO. Ó ìå*ÿ SB0060 è kX3534
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Old Nov 24, 2003, 10:59 PM   #2
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Re: NI Traktor 2.1.1
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Ïðè ëþáûõ êîìáè**öèÿõ âûõîäîâ ASIO
Ïðî÷èò*ë, ÷òî ïîìîã*åò óñò**îâê* 4-õ êîëî*îê â âè*äîç*îé ï**åëå óïð*âëå*èÿ çâóêîâóõîé. Ó ìå*ÿ çâóê äåéñòâèòåëü*î èäåò ñ *åñêîëüêèõ âûõîäîâ, *î âîò ìî*èòîð â Òð*êòîðå ìîë÷èò, ïðè ëþáûõ **ñòðîéê*õ è ëþáûõ äðîâ*õ. Òð*êòîð ó ìå*ÿ 2.0.3, *î óæå ëüþ 2.5.1 - **äåþñü äåëî â *åì...
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SB0222 + XP/kX3535
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Old Nov 24, 2003, 11:43 PM   #3
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>Ïðî÷èò*ë, ÷òî ïîìîã*åò óñò**îâê* 4-õ êîëî*îê â âè*äîç*îé ï**åëå óïð*âëå*èÿ çâóêîâóõîé

 ï**åëè óïð*âëå*èÿ âñåãä* äîëæ*î ñòîÿòü 5.1 äëÿ kX...
*åç*âèñèìî *å îò÷åãî, õîòü âîé** ÿäåð**ÿ, * ò*ì òîëüêî 5.1
(ê*ê ò*ì ýòî ó *èõ - "äè**ìèêè îáüåì*îãî çâóê*"?)

À c òð*êòîðîì **äî ò*ê:

1. (â kx) Îòêðûòü ìîäóëü "surrounder" (÷åðåç ìå*þ "effects" ëèáî ñ ãë*â*îé âêë*äêè ìèêøåð*) è âûñò*âèòü ò*ì ÷òî-ëèáî îòëè÷*îå îò "2.1" (ðåêîìå*äóþ "5.1 direct path")

2.  òð*êòîðå äëÿ ìî*èòîð* âûáð*òü ASIO 4/5 * äëÿ ì*ñòåð* ASIO 6/7 (ýòî ïî ê*èêñîâñêîé *óìåð*öèè, *å ç**þ ê*ê ò*ì asio âûõîäû â òð*êòîðå *óìåðóþòñÿ, åñëè ïî ñòåðåîï*ð*ì è **÷è**þòñÿ ñ åäè*èöû òî ýòî áóäóò ñîîòâåòñâå**î ASIO 3 è ASIO 4).

Âñ¸. Òåïåðü ìî*èòîð ïîéäåò ** ïåðâûé âûõîä, ì*ñòåð ** âòîðîé
(èëè **îáîðîò â ç*âèñèìîñòè îò ñîñòîÿ*èÿ "swap front/rear" îïöèè)
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Old Nov 27, 2003, 04:41 AM   #4
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Íå ð*áîò*åò
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Âñ¸. Òåïåðü ìî*èòîð ïîéäåò ** ïåðâûé âûõîä, ì*ñòåð ** âòîðîé
(èëè **îáîðîò â ç*âèñèìîñòè îò ñîñòîÿ*èÿ "swap front/rear" îïöèè)
Èçâè*èòå, ìîæåò áûòü ÿ ñîâñåì òóïîé, *î .....
ß âñå ñäåë*ë ê*ê âû òóò ïèñ*ëè, â kX À**ëèç*òîðå ãîðÿò 4 çåëå*ûõ ïîëîñêè, òî åñòü 4 âûõîä* ASIO ê*ê ÿ ïî*èì*þ, *î çâóê* âñå ð*â*î *åò. Òî åñòü Åñëè ÿ ñò*âëþ ìî*èòîðû âBass/sub, òî èäåò òîò æå sound, ÷òî è äëÿ ì*ñòåð*, * åñëè â òûëîâîé jack, òî *è÷åãî *å èäåò. Ìîæåò áûòü **äî åùå ÷òî-*èáóäü â **ñòðîéê*õ èñïð*âëÿòü.
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Old Nov 28, 2003, 07:14 PM   #5
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>Åñëè ÿ ñò*âëþ ìî*èòîðû âBass/sub, òî èäåò òîò æå sound, ÷òî è äëÿ ì*ñòåð*, * åñëè â òûëîâîé jack òî *è÷åãî *å èäåò...

Íó ýòî ç**÷èò ÷òî âñå-ò*êè ÷òî-òî ò*ì *å ò*ê ñ *óìåð*öèåé ASIO (ò.å. â òð*êòîðå âûñò*âëå*û *å òå ïîðòû êîòîðûå ÿ óê*ç*ë)... Êîðî÷å... ê*ê ò*ì ASIO â òð*êòîðå *óìåðóåòñÿ?

Ïëþñ, ïðîâåðèòü surrounder... (ÿ *åì*îãî ìóò*îâ*òî âûð*çèë ìûñëü: *å ïðîñòî "âûñò*âèòü ò*ì ÷òî-ëèáî îòëè÷*îå îò "2.1"" * ïîñò*âèòü èìå**î ïðåñåò "5.1 direct path" - èëè ïîäîá*ûé, ãäå "Surround:Off" è Spe*kerMode: 5.1 èëè 4.1)
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Old Nov 29, 2003, 02:59 PM   #6
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Ê*ðòè*êè
ê*ê *óìåðóþòñÿ ïîðòû - *å ç**þ, ò*ê ÷òî *è÷åãî ñê*ç*òü *å ìîãó. Âîòü, ïîñìîòðèòå ê*ðòè*êè, ìîæåò áûòü ÷òî-*èáóäü ïðîÿñ*èòñÿ :http://gabber.ru/traktor/DSP.gif
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Old Nov 29, 2003, 09:44 PM   #7
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>ê*ê *óìåðóþòñÿ ïîðòû - *å ç**þ, ò*ê ÷òî *è÷åãî ñê*ç*òü *å ìîãó

×òî áû ýòî óç**òü äîñò*òî÷*î îòêðûòü òð*êòîð è ïîñìîòðåòü ê*ê î* **çûâ*åò ASIO âûõîäû - ò.å. ãðóïïèðóþòñÿ-ëè î*è ïî ï*ð*ì (ò.å. îäè* ASIO âûõîä â òð*êòîðå ìî*î èëè ñòåðåî?) è **÷è**åòñÿ ëè *óìåð*öèÿ ñ *óëÿ èëè åäè*èöû (ê*ê **çûâ*åòñÿ ïåðâûé ASIO âûõîä â òð*êòîðå: ASIO 0, ASIO 1 èëè ê*ê-òî åùå?)
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Ñê*÷*ë 2.5.1 - òå æå òð*áëû.
Ïîðòû â Òð*êòîðå *óìåðóåòñÿ îò 0 äî 15 (ïî äâ* ** ê***ë, ì*êñèìóì 7.1, ñ ó÷åòîì ëåâî/ïð*âî), *î äîñòóï*û òîëüêî âêëþ÷å**ûå (ò.å. äëÿ 5.1 îò 0 äî 11). Ëþáûå â*ðè*öèè ñ ìî*èòîðîì, òèï* ïåðå**ç**÷å*èÿ ** òîëüêî ÷òî ð*áîò*âøèé äëÿ ì*ñòåð* ïîðò *å ïîìîã*þò. ß ä*æå âåðñèþ Òð*êòîð* ïðî*ïäåéòèë, ïîäîçðåâ*ÿ ÷òî â ïåðâî**÷*ëü*îé î* ïðîñòî *å ð*áîò*åò, *î ëèáî ÿ ñëûøó êîïèþ ì*ñòåð*, ëèáî òèøè*ó...
Ïîñò*âèë Virtual Tumbnails 1.80, â êî*ô 5.1 DirPath î** âèäèò 0/1, 4/5, 6/7 è 8/9, *î *îðì*ëü*î ð*áîò*åò òîëüêî ñ 0/1.
Ïîñò*âèë MixVibes 5.02, òå æå 0/1, 4/5, 6/7 è 8/9. ÇÀÐÀÁÎÒÀË ìî*èòîð ïðè óê*ç**èè 6/7 åìó è 4/5 ì*ñòåðó. Ïðè òåõ æå **ñòðîéê*õ îá* Òð*êòîð* âûä*þò â ìî*èòîð êîïèþ ì*ñòåð*. Íî âåäü ÿ *å ð*ç ÷èò*ë, ÷òî Òð*êòîð ò*êè ð*áîò*åò, õîòÿ è *å óëîâèë *üþ**ñ* **ñòðîéêè, ò*ê è *åä*þùåãî âêëþ÷èòü ç*âåò*ûé ìî*èòîð...
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Âîòü .... ó ìå*ÿ òî æå ñ*ìîå. Òð*êòîð 2.5.1, ð*çäåëü*îãî ì*ñòåð* è ìî*èòîð* ÿ ò*ê è *å ïîëó÷èë. Ìîæåò áûòü ýòî èç-ç* òîãî, ÷òî ó ìå*ÿ SB0060, * ò*ì åñòü *åêèé "ASIO routing hardwabug" ? Êñò*òè, ÷òî ýòî, ïîòîìó ÷òî ïî ïîâîäó ñóù*îñòè ýòîãî á*ã* ** ñ*éòå kX *è÷åãî *å **ïèñ**î =(
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Ä* ïîäîæäèòå, ïîäîæäèòå, ÷òî ç* ï**èê*?
Âñå *îðì*ëü*î, ýòî *å îøèáê* â òð*êòîðå èëè â kX... ñïîêîé*î ;)
Ò*ê, ñ *óìåð*öèåé ð*çîáð*ëèñü (ò.å. â òð*êòîðå *óìåð*öèÿ ñîîòâåòñâóåò kX)

Íó è â èòîãå,

"2. Â òð*êòîðå äëÿ ìî*èòîð* âûáð*òü ASIO 4/5 * äëÿ ì*ñòåð* ASIO 6/7" ÷òî ä*åò?

>Ïðè òåõ æå **ñòðîéê*õ îá* Òð*êòîð* âûä*þò â ìî*èòîð êîïèþ ì*ñòåð*.

À *åò ëè â ñ*ìîì òð*êòîðå ê*êîé-*èáóäü ïîò*å**îé ã*ëî÷êè òèï* "copy master to monitor"? :)

>Ìîæåò áûòü ýòî èç-ç* òîãî, ÷òî ó ìå*ÿ SB0060, * ò*ì åñòü *åêèé "ASIO routing hardwabug" ?

Íåò, ýò* ùòóê* ñâÿç*** òîëüêî ñ ASIO âõîä*ìè (Live 5.1 èñïîëüçóåò äëÿ ñ*á* è öå*òð* òå æå ê***ëû ÷òî kX èñïîëüçóåò äëÿ ASIO, ïîýòîìó â ñð*â*å*èè ñ äðóãèìè ìîäåëÿìè (Live *å 5.1 è Audigy) ïðîèñõîäèò "ñäâèã" ASIO âõîäîâ â ñîôòå)
Í* âûõîäû ýòî *èê*ê *å âëèÿåò.

>Ïîñò*âèë Virtual Tumbnails 1.80, â êî*ô 5.1 DirPath î** âèäèò 0/1, 4/5, 6/7 è 8/9, *î *îðì*ëü*î ð*áîò*åò òîëüêî ñ 0/1.

À ïî÷åìó êñò*òè "*îðì*ëü*î òîëüêî ñ 0/1"?

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Íó ð*çáåðåìñÿ, * áîëüøîé î* ýòîò òð*êòîð ïî ð*çìåðó?
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>À *åò ëè â ñ*ìîì òð*êòîðå ê*êîé-*èáóäü ïîò*å**îé ã*ëî÷êè òèï* "copy master to monitor"?

À ÷òî åå *óæ*î ñ*ÿòü?! =)

>>Ïîñò*âèë Virtual Tumbnails 1.80, â êî*ô 5.1 DirPath î** âèäèò 0/1, 4/5, 6/7 è 8/9, *î *îðì*ëü*î ð*áîò*åò òîëüêî ñ 0/1.
>À ïî÷åìó êñò*òè "*îðì*ëü*î òîëüêî ñ 0/1"?
Í* îñò*ëü*ûõ ç*èê*åòñÿ, *ó ä* ýòî âåðîÿò*î èç-ç* äðåâ*îñòè ïðîãè - ÿ åå ïîä ÕÐ ïåðâûé ð*ç ïîñò*âèë è *å îæèä*ë ðåçóëüò*ò*.

>Íó ð*çáåðåìñÿ, * áîëüøîé î* ýòîò òð*êòîð ïî ð*çìåðó?
15 ìåòðîâ - îä** èç ñ*ìûõ óäîá*ûõ è ê*÷åñòâå**ûõ ñâîäèëîê.

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**ëè÷èå ã*ëî÷åê îòñóòñâóåò, ìîæåøü ïîñìîòðåòü ** ìîèõ ñêðè**õ ... ïð*âä* ò*ì *åò ñêðè** ñ **ñòðîéêîé, *î ò*ì âîîáùå *èê*êèõ ã*ëî÷åê *åò =(

Ìîé òð*êòîð - 15,1 ìåòð*
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Big Grin ???, ??????????.
Â÷åð* ïîñò*âèë ñåáå 3536 , ïåðåäåë*ë âñå âåðåâî÷êè, è âñå ç*ð*áîò*ëî. Òîëüêî ó *îâîãî òð*êòîð* è*òðåôåéñ î÷å*ü *åóäîá*ûé ïî ñð*â*å*èþ ñ ïåðâûì. (òûê*òü è êðóòèòü **äî **ì*îãî áîëüøå)þ ß âîòü ñêðè* ùåëê*óë , ìîæåò êîìó ïîìîæåò.
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Â÷åð* ïîñò*âèë ñåáå 3536
Ïîñò*âèë - *è÷åãî *å ìå*ÿåòñÿ.
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, ïåðåäåë*ë âñå âåðåâî÷êè, è âñå ç*ð*áîò*ëî.
Âåðåâî÷êè?!

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Òîëüêî ó *îâîãî òð*êòîð* è*òðåôåéñ î÷å*ü *åóäîá*ûé ïî ñð*â*å*èþ ñ ïåðâûì. (òûê*òü è êðóòèòü **äî **ì*îãî áîëüøå)þ ß âîòü ñêðè* ùåëê*óë , ìîæåò êîìó ïîìîæåò.
Ýòî óê*ç**èå ÊÀÊ ÂÊËÞ×ÀÒÜ ÌÎÍÈÒÎÐ?! =) =) =)
À ôåéñ ì*ëîâ*æå*, ïðè **ñòð*èâ*åìûõ õîòêåÿõ.

2Ì*êñ - Ê*ê òâîÿ ïîïûòê*?!
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Big Grin âåðâî÷êè
Âåðåâî÷êè - Ýòî DSP manager. Ïîòîìó ÷òî ò*ì âñå âõîäû/âûõîäû **äî ëè*èÿìè ñîåäè*ÿòü.

À **ñ÷åò ôåéñ* òû *å ïð*â. À ìî*èòîð âêëþ÷*åòñÿ ñïð*â* â*èçó : ò*ì åñòü êðóòèëê* "CUE|MIX|PGM", ò*ê âîòü, åå âûêðó÷èâ*åøü äî óïîð* â CUE, ïîòîì ** ìèêøåðå òûê*åøü ê*îïî÷êó CUE è ó òåáÿ èãð*åò â óøè ò* äåê*, êîòîð*ÿ ðîâ*î **ä ê*îïî÷êîé, * ÷òî áû î** *å *å øë* â ì*ñòåð åå ôýéäåð **äî óáð*òü äî 0. Òîëüêî ò*êèì ì*ê*ðîì *å ïîëó÷èòñÿ gain **ñòðîèòü

À åñëè ** ìèêøåðå âòûê*åøü PGM, òî ì*ñòåð ñ ìî*èòîðîì ñâîäÿòñÿ òåáå â óøè
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Re: âåðâî÷êè
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Âåðåâî÷êè - Ýòî DSP manager. Ïîòîìó ÷òî ò*ì âñå âõîäû/âûõîäû **äî ëè*èÿìè ñîåäè*ÿòü.
Ïîïûò*ëñÿ - ïîê* áåç áåçðåçóëüò*ò*î. Í* äåôîëò*ûõ **ñòðîéê*õ (òû âûêë*äûâ*ë ñêðè* âûøå) *å ð*áîò*åò, ** ñêîðóþ ðóêó **ñòðîèòü *å ïîëó÷èëîñü...

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