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Old Sep 22, 2008, 07:01 AM   #1
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Going to buy one (PC) soon. I am between yoyotech, cyperwpower PC and PCspecialist. Cyber has the upper hand so far.
Any reason to avoid any of the 3?
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There's no reason why you shouldn't just build your own, there's a guide located on this forum with a step by step with pictures on how to build your own computer. If you insist otherwise though, I haven't used PCspecialist before, but between cyberpowerpc and yoyotech I would go with yoyotech. I haven't had a bad experience with yoyotech before but have seen them deliver a low quality product (damage, bad wiring, etc.) and have had a friend who has had nothing but trouble with their customer service. This wasn't recently so I can't say what they're like now but from things i've heard it isn't much better. My friend who ordered from cyberpower couldn't say anything good about them except for the price. In some cases I guess you get what you pay for.

If you do order from cyberpower though, let me know how it turns out. Cheers.

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Old Sep 22, 2008, 04:23 PM   #3
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whats wrong with building your own? unless you dont have the time, i wouldnt want to deal with the possibility of subpar service....
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Old Sep 22, 2008, 04:44 PM   #4
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whats wrong with building your own? unless you dont have the time, i wouldnt want to deal with the possibility of subpar service....
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Agreed.
Me too. Although for value, you can't beat a pre-built pc with vista, office, printer, webcam etc bundled goodies.
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Old Sep 22, 2008, 08:46 PM   #6
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IIRC, Blue is not too much of a deep gamer these days, he said he plays mostly old school/not very demanding games these days, don't know if his stance has changed but if that still is the case; then like Coz says, pre-built ftw.
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touchscreen...... good.....


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Old Sep 23, 2008, 06:59 AM   #8
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Are you forgetting that I will have to pay p&p for cheaper products bought from seperate shops to get the best price per part, then spend x number of days to have all the components, then spend a couple of hours at least to build it, and hope that nothing is broken and test everything, and etc etc etc.
To save what? 5% of the final price? IF that?

I have the knowledge to build a pc on my own, I just lack the reasons to do so.
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Me too. Although for value, you can't beat a pre-built pc with vista, office, printer, webcam etc bundled goodies.
The more expensive you get, the less true that becomes.
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Old Sep 23, 2008, 04:29 PM   #10
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The more expensive you get, the less true that becomes.
Until it becomes the total opposite and the pre-built ends up a rip-off

But for the average sub £1,000 rig you do get good value as long as you make sure you are getting the right bundled peripherals and software...
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Novatech just won PC Pro awards for best Desktop PC, and highly recommended for online retailer... definitely worth checking out
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Novatech just won PC Pro awards for best Desktop PC, and highly recommended for online retailer... definitely worth checking out
Their Energiser Pro looks nice (£915 inc)
Motherboard MSI P7N Diamond 780i
CPU Intel Quad 9450
4GB PC2-6400
2 x 9800GT SLI
Antec 900 Gamer Case
1TB (2 x 500GB) Serial ATA II Hard drive with 16MB Buffer
Creative X-Fi PCI-Express 8-channel audio
Microsoft Wireless Keyboard & Optical Mouse

Does not include monitor, OS or any software though

With added extras of Vista Home Premium, MS Office Home & Student and Novatech 2 Year PC Care Pack it adds up to £1118 (incl)
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Old Sep 25, 2008, 09:04 AM   #13
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Going with an ATI solution, probably 4870x2, 4gb ram, 500-1tb hdd, onboard sound, no monitor.
I don't want to get another nvidia for a while.
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Old Sep 25, 2008, 11:28 AM   #14
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ATI FTW, to be honest

What is your budget btw?
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Old Sep 26, 2008, 07:20 AM   #15
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About 1000 GBPs. I could go a bit more up to 1200max.
The problem is I don't have or want to use a solo/switch/credit card so my options for retailers are much smaller. Bank transfer (or cirrus) would be great, but so far only pcspecialist.co.uk has it as option and their site SUCK ASS by not telling you the price for hardware while you are building it.
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Old Sep 26, 2008, 10:43 AM   #16
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About 1000 GBPs. I could go a bit more up to 1200max.
The problem is I don't have or want to use a solo/switch/credit card so my options for retailers are much smaller. Bank transfer (or cirrus) would be great, but so far only pcspecialist.co.uk has it as option and their site SUCK ASS by not telling you the price for hardware while you are building it.
Paypal couls be a useful halfway house. I can understand a reluctance to use credit cards, is your aversion to debit cards security related or for other easons?

You are going to have real issue shopping online without at least paypal.
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Old Sep 26, 2008, 01:01 PM   #17
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Other reasons.

I have noticed.

So far pcspecialist seems to be the only one accepting bank transfer for payment. So I might do that today or something.

What do you think of this?

Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™2 Quad Q9550 (4 X 2.83GHz) 1333MHz FSB/12MB Cache

Free Item
FREE RaceDriver: Grid DVD Game (RRP: £34.99) with any Intel® Core™ 2 Quad CPU!

Memory (RAM)
4GB CORSAIR XMS2 800MHz - LIFETIME WARRANTY! (2x2GB)

Motherboard
ASUS® P5Q DELUXE: DUAL DDR2, S-ATA II,2 x VGA, 2 x PCI, 2 PCI-E x1

Operating System
Genuine Windows Vista™ Home Premium 64-bit Edition + SP1, CD (£59)

USB Options
8 x USB 2.0 PORTS (6 REAR + 2 FRONT) AS STANDARD

Memory - 1st Hard Disk
500GB SERIAL ATA II HARD DRIVE WITH 8MB CACHE (7,200rpm)

2nd Hard Disk
NONE

3rd Hard Disk
NONE

1st CD/DVD Drive
20x Dual Layer LightScribe DVD Writer ±R/±RW/RAM

2nd CD/DVD Drive
NONE

Graphics Card
2048MB RADEON HD 4870X2 PCI Express (PRE-ORDER ONLY)

2nd Graphics Card
NONE

Sound Card
ONBOARD 8 CHANNEL (7.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)

Modem
NONE, I WILL BE USING BROADBAND

Network Facilities
ONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT

Floppy Disk Drive
NONE

Memory Card Reader
NONE

Case
Stylish Silver/Black Sigma case + 2 front USB

Power Supply & Case Cooling
700W Quiet Quad Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan (£79)

Processor Cooling
STANDARD CPU COOLER

Firewire & Video Editing
NONE

TV Card
NONE

Monitor
NONE

2nd Monitor
NONE

DVI Cable
NONE

Keyboard & Mouse
Logitech® Internet Keyboard + Hotkeys (Black) (£6)

Mouse
NONE

Speakers
NONE

Printer
NONE

Surge Protection
Belkin 4 Socket 2M Surge Protector with £25,000 Protection! (£7)

Webcam & VoIP
NONE

Media Center Remote
NONE

Anti-Virus
NONE

Office Software
NONE

External Hard Drive
NONE

Warranty
1 Year Return-to-Base incl 1st Month Free Collect & Return

Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)

Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 13 working days

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1126 GBP, including expenses.
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Old Sep 26, 2008, 01:44 PM   #18
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Order placed, same system as above with some changes

mainboard the p5q ws
8gb of 800 ram (corsair)
wireless network card
logitech g15 keyboard
1 dvi cable ( I will need to buy something to make it work to the hdmi only tv)

final price including expenses, 1237 gbp.
I think it is good.
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Old Sep 27, 2008, 12:45 AM   #19
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Just seeing this now, was going to suggest yhe Logitech G15 keyboard and G5 mouse, not a bad buy, I know the feeling when you need a new rig and are tired of using a crappy one. Grats man, hope the new system will bring you oodles of joy.
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whats wrong with building your own? unless you dont have the time, i wouldnt want to deal with the possibility of subpar service....

i only bought 1 pc from a company and it was a absolute nightmare ... ever since i built my own and never had any problems... my current set up is a couple of years old .... but still does a job .... i will probably ditch this pc and by a acer laptop around christmas time ... i already have a dell laptop which is ok but is not as powerfull graphic and cpu as the latest acer laptops
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Old Sep 29, 2008, 08:58 AM   #21
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Well, I transfered the money today, so I should have the PC in a couple of weeks at the most.
Will see how things go, but one thing I did not like was how I had to order a seperate DVI cable, I would imagine one was included with the retail graphics card or something and since after reading the review of the pcspecialist system here and how everything is included (cables, manuals, cds etc), I was surprised.

Hopefuly everything will be fine.


Oh, regarding the keyboard, yes the G15 looks very nice and with backlighting even better. As for mouse, I left the sidewinder back in Greece, I hated that mouse, and bought a Logitech G9. Superb handling so far, but haven't tested yet in gaming.
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