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Old May 31, 2006, 10:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Retailers selling Dell 2407WFP in the UK ?

Well other then Dell and OCUK is there anyone else selling these or claiming to have stock ?

I'd buy from OCUK but they just bumped there price up £60 which seems a little dodgy.
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Old May 31, 2006, 10:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'd buy from OCUK but they just bumped there price up £60 which seems a little dodgy.
Presuming you mean a lcd screen.

don't know of any as i have not looked.as for the price increase from ocuk sure you have not been looking at a 'this week only' offer.As the is a couple of dells in the offer line up at the moment.

only saying that as i don't know how recent you looked.

Try dabs.com there service is reliable but they are not always the cheapest around.
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Old May 31, 2006, 10:42 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Its never been in the this weeks only section, there ment to be getting their first stock in tomorrow so i'm somebody else must be getting them... I'll checks dabs.. thx
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why not the 2405 its basically identical.
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and the 2405 does not suffer from the banding issues that have been reported about the 2407FPW
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Old May 31, 2006, 01:02 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Dell have started shipping some newer versions plus my huge problem with LCD's in general is the response time, I simply would never be able to live with a 16ms screen.

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the problems with banding were reported across all modes originally. Dell admitted there was a problem and released the new firmware (V1B15) and then the new A01 revision of the screen. This was designed to adjusts the ACC (Adaptive Color and Contrast) & ACM (Active Color Management) features, eliminating the banding issue when using the Desktop mode. All of these monitors have three display modes: Desktop, Multimedia and Gaming. The firmware turns off Faroudja video processing in Desktop mode. It remains enabled in the other two modes. It was this Faroudja controller which was causing problems, but they've only disabled it in "desktop" mode, which explains why you still see problems in other presets.
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Dell have started shipping some newer versions plus my huge problem with LCD's in general is the response time, I simply would never be able to live with a 16ms screen.
the ms many manufacturers quote is nonsense. you know those 8ms and 4ms panels? most of them are deliberately falsifying reports to fool people into thinking the panels are actually responding faster than they are.

As for the 2405 and the 2407, ive used them side by side, the 2405 was the better panel, better colour and no difference to my eyes on refresh either - and trust me if anyone is picky about a screen its me. the 2407 and the 3007 are getting some really negative reports, research on google and buy with caution even with the firmware upgrade.
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the ms many manufacturers quote is nonsense. you know those 8ms and 4ms panels? most of them are deliberately falsifying reports to fool people into thinking the panels are actually responding faster than they are.

As for the 2405 and the 2407, ive used them side by side, the 2405 was the better panel, better colour and no difference to my eyes on refresh either - and trust me if anyone is picky about a screen its me. the 2407 and the 3007 are getting some really negative reports, research on google and buy with caution even with the firmware upgrade.
Not really, they clearly state its the G2G only but that is party where the worse ghosting on panels comes from. My VX922 for example is stated as 2ms G2G of course in reality its actually reaches 12ms ISO. Now compare that to other 19"/20" panels i've tried SM-930BF, Dell 2005WFP to name a few and the vx922 is much more responsive especially over the Dell which is actually a 12ms screen or so they claim.. I thought it was the worse piece of crap i've seen since trying the first 25ms screens.

The G2G response times nowadays give a far better indication of real responsiveness since grey to grey transitions are far more common than black > white transitions are.

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the 3007 actually looks pretty damn good imo. Now i've seen 4 in total, 1 of which was somewhat DOA, or DPOA (dead pixels on arrival).

The first 2 looks damn good, but i'll agree the kinda "glow" effect of the outa edges was somewhat prominent apon a black screen.

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The 3rd one looked like a new revision. It didn't show the same results, it's manufacturers date was also quite different.


Here's my problem:

Dell had a very very neato sale on the Dell 3007fpw's... selling them as cheap as $1400 bucks a pop. Some people managed to get them cheaper, some managed to barely get them below the 1600 mark... But there official orginal value was indeed 2299 before.

I've since sent off some emails to Dell about there various price differences along with the plausible revision date that coinsides somewhat with when the price was marked back up.

ATM, My thoughts on the matter is this:

the orginal 3007fpw's, the first revision or 2 were somewhat "faulty" or more or less bland in comparison to a good quality display similare to that of the 2405. Resulting in issues similare to that of the 2407. They cleared there stock of this by dropping the price significantly, allowing piles apon piles of people (and ebayers included) to buy up and ship out all of them, as they technically aren't faulty... just not of the quality dell would have perferred.

Now Dell has the newer revisions in, which "hopefully" have resolved the visual problems that were there. If this is the case, aside from the 3007fpw having some obvious limitations (no TV inputs of any kind, just a straight DVI-D connector and the very few multimedia card readers and super small USB hub of 2 USB ports), they've made the monitor even more steller to view.

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