DM's Judas

PITmaster · Apr 28, 2005, 04:45 AM

www.gdynia.mm.pl/~MMmaster/Judas.mp3

Tril, what do you think about my vocal this time?

PITmaster

thomasabarnes · Apr 28, 2005, 08:58 AM

PITmaster:

This is a nice tune man! I think the vocals sound very good, They're a little unclear in the begining of the song, but great overall, I think. What mic are you using and are you using a preamp with the mic?

PITmaster · Apr 28, 2005, 12:42 PM

Just behringer UB802 with samson C05. Everything very cheap.

PITmaster

Tiger M · Apr 28, 2005, 02:58 PM

Very Bob Geldoff like voice! The tune is very non-mainstream, I like it. It's almost like you've made it for a David Lynch movie.

trevbushell · May 22, 2005, 01:33 AM

nice tune pitmaster
well mixed,i liked the panning scat line too at the beginning, nice touch. nice arrangement you dont get bored by it at all, it develops really well, and you use the pads really well to change the feel of ti throughout the song. i agree your voice is very 'bob geldoff' style, which is great and its mixed well in the mix.
hey, well done!

this is probably a taste thing so if so ignore it but i would work on the drums a bit more ( but then i am a drummer!!!!) as i think doing this would add another dimension to the song. but of course that depends on what you want the song to be and you may have done the drums like that to create the particular atmosphere feel that you have created. so just a thought!

trev

horsesarevermin · Jun 17, 2005, 06:49 PM

Hello PITmaster,

A really good version of a great song. I'm a big Depeche Mode fan, and this is really true to the original, whilst still having a unique approach. Did you ever hear Tricky's version? - Well your's beats it into oblivion. The strings are very lush and the background vocal sounds JUST like Martin Gore. Superb!
I eagerly look forward to hearing more of your recordings soon.

Tril · Jun 17, 2005, 10:14 PM

It my first time hearing that song. Your voice is very nice to listen to in this song. The instrumentation is good too. Mixing seems good but I can't really comment as I know nothing about mixing. I did not understand all the lyrics at the beginning of the song. English is not my first language so if it's not very clearly spoken with a good pronounciation I don't understand. It's your accent too. It's different from what I usually hear in spoken english.

PITmaster, where in the world are you from and is english your first language?

Overall I find your interpretation of the song very nice.

What kind of effects did you use on the voice? There is your voice and there seems to be a higher pitched voice at a lower volume hidden it. The two voice together give an echo feel. Nice effect. Is it you voice two times. Did you sing the song two times at two different pitch or did you filter your voice to make it higher?

If you produced an album full of songs of equal quality or better than this song I think I would buy it. It's not the kind of music I usually listen to but it sounds nice.

Is the date when this song was posted correct? I only saw the thread today. If it's months old sorry to not have posted earlier. I know what it is to await feedback. I made some plugins and if people tried them I would prefer if they at least told me that they took the time to try it and what are their thought about it. Keep up the effort. Even if you don't receive a lot of feedback I'm sure there are a lot of people downloading your song, appreciating it and not saying a word.

PITmaster · Jun 18, 2005, 04:41 AM

Hmm, thank you. that's really nice. Please try my 'Oh My Love'. You can find it here.
BTW, someone mentioned my 'want' sounds not correct. I'm polish man so it could be.
Is it true? Tell me

PITmaster

Tril · Jun 18, 2005, 06:33 PM

Your english is good but sometimes hard to understand to a non native english speaker. Japanese people are worse. Have you ever heard japanese people singing in english? They are usually really hard to understand.

Russ · Jun 20, 2005, 01:13 AM

I really like this song, I listen to it often, but I have to agree that some of the lyrics are tough to understand, I still have not figured out some of them (mostly the beginning).

i.e.
The first line sounds like 'It's implicit at best' but I am unsure what you are saying.
'The narrowest path' took a few times before I figured out what you were saying.
One of the lines sounds like 'so I come barefoot for me', but I am not sure what you are saying (next line is 'suffer some misery').
And lastly 'Cheating to ????, doubting Thomases' (sound like assist, maybe).

I think the rest of the song is ok as far as understanding the lyrics.

I really like the use of the synth, and I also think the the background female vocals go well with your voice, and adds a nice touch to the song.

The only other thing I can think ff, is that you might be repeating, 'if you want my love' a few too many time at the end of the song, but maybe it is just me.

Overall I think it is really good, and again, I do find myself listening to it often.

PITmaster · Nov 21, 2005, 07:06 AM

Deeser discovered and vocal paths impoved

Try again.

PITmaster

Russ · Nov 21, 2005, 07:41 AM

Do you mean DeEsser?

I listened to it a couple times, as well as the previous version, and didn't really notice anything different? Is there anything particular we should be listening for? In any case, I still really like it.

Russ · Nov 21, 2005, 08:42 AM

Regarding the vocals being hard to understand at times, I thought I would elaborate a little. I think it is partially due to your accent, partially due to your pronunciation, and partially due to the phrases/sentences that you are using.

The accent thing is allright, as I think that it it adds a little something to the song.

As for the pronunciation, maybe a couple of examples would be helpful.
- "You can fullfill, your wildest ambitions"
In that line, I do not hear the "d" in "wildest", so it sounds like "while-est".
- "So open yourself for me"
In that line I do not hear the "f" in "yourself", so it sounds like "your cell", (which might actually be intesting, "So open your cell for me" [img]images/smilies/big%20grin.gif[/img] )

As for the phrasing/sentences. I think that maybe you are using uncommon terms and/or phrases/sentences, which makes it harder to guess what the words are, especially when they are slightly hard to understand. i.e. When one word in a sentence is hard to understand, and it is a sentance that you do not hear often, it makes it harder to determine what is being said in general.

I think the combination of the above things, is why the vocals are a little hard to understand at times. I think maybe if you posted the lyrics to the song, it might help a bit.

In any case, I do not mean to criticize. As I said before I really like the song. I only offer a possible explanation of why some of the vocals are hard to understand. Additionally, I know a few hit songs (by people who speak English as their native language), that have some hard to understand lyrics. As a matter of fact, you can even find web sites dedicated to such things, i.e. trying to determine what was said in some hit songs, and trying to determine the meaning behind what was said, etc.

PITmaster · Nov 21, 2005, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ

Do you mean DeEsser?

Yes, I mean DeEsser.
Sorry, I guess you expect I record new version of voice track - corrected.

I was always not enough satisfied with my voice sound inside the mix until now. I just discovered very good method to master it. I think it sounds much more better now.
You may compare both versions if you have the old one.

PITmaster

Russ · Nov 21, 2005, 10:49 AM

I see. Yeah, I thought that maybe (i.e. using the de-esser), you were tying to clean up the vocals. I thought the mix was good all along, and I did listen to both versions, and (as I stated above) didn't notice a difference. It is probably just a situation where you might not notice unless you know what to listen for. As it is your voice, you are probably more critical of it then I would be, etc.