War with IRAN?

Falstaff · Feb 4, 2006, 10:12 AM

Al Jazeera According to journalists reporting for a popular Arab speaking network, the war with IRAN has begun, and the U.S. is poised to strike deep into the country eliminating its infrastructure, cutting off supplies of oil going out, food coming in and invasion is imminent, or so this and other articles would have you believe, however the truth is stranger than fiction.
Is the United States capable and ready to strike? the answer is yes and no.
Is the United States capable of a multi-theater war? the answer is yes and no.
Is the United States fully capable of dealing with a polarized muslim world community?
Well the security council is definitely adamant about limiting IRAN's nuclear capability, and stronger now than ever before on the mission to thwart attempts by IRAN to develope nuclear weapons. However the opinion by many top level security and military analysts is that it may be too late. Given that we could easily disrupt or destroy the present capablitiy of IRAN to enrich uranium, build physic's packages for low yield strike weapons and wage war on any other country, the obvious truth is that IRAN already has enough weapons in its arsenal to retaliate on a large scale. In fact IRAN could easily expend all of its medium range missles in a broad strike at all of its nieghbors and we would not know which has the nuclear warhead. That alone begs the question of what a major strike against IRAN would accomplish. I believe it is the old cold war stalemate again.
IRAN has outlasted many of it's enemies attempts to wage war against it, and now, poised on the edge of becoming a major nuclear player in the world wide game of nuclear poker, the likely hood of nuclear war is imminent.
I can tell you for a fact that during and even before the first gulf war, the U.S. was prepared for a police action against hostile interests in IRAN. And that we knew of Soviet, French and German technical assitance for the nuclear reactors in IRAN. Brinkmenship may have bee the downfall of all the western powers with economic interests in IRAN, for the very oil, power and prestige we all gained from doing business with IRAN, we have mortaged our future.
The man with Blue Turbin is in control now of IRAN, and I am afraid he will not stop till he brings all the moderate muslim countrys inline with those that actively and covertly oppose the prescence and the right of Israel to exist and we the infidels to exist.
If there was a time that a world wide Jihad was manifesting itself in a new form it is now.
We are on the verge of a terrible time in the middle east and renewed threats to the U.S. and all western powers.
We are poised for war, and the list of enemies that would oppose us is much larger than ever before as well.
These are dangerous times, and while the rest of the world waits, beneath the sands of Persia a serpent bides his time...

~~Alien1~~ · Feb 4, 2006, 01:59 PM

What the hell is all these BS ??

and especially these

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If there was a time that a world wide Jihad was manifesting itself in a new form it is now. (

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We are on the verge of a terrible time in the middle east and renewed threats to the U.S. and all western powers.
We are poised for war (

) , and the list of enemies that would oppose us is much larger than ever before as well (

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These are dangerous times, and while the rest of the world waits, beneath the sands of Persia a serpent bides his time (Give me a break...

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Razgriz · Feb 4, 2006, 02:02 PM

you forgot to mention that this was an opininated article......

Chaos · Feb 4, 2006, 02:17 PM

Even though the US is my close neighbor I am getting tired of them getting involved in every military issue that comes to be. How is there ever gonna be peace with Bush the war monger and his cronies just twitching to push the button

The_Neon_Cowboy · Feb 4, 2006, 03:07 PM

Well we knew there would be problem when iran elected KNOWN terrorist
and extremist as their leadar ... I think we need to take him and his staff
out 1st thing... Some ne else with an ounce of sanity needs to be putr in
his place...

violat3 · Feb 4, 2006, 03:16 PM

i normally don't advocate this i was against Iraq, but i do not doubt for a minute if the Iranians/Muslim state (Pakistan apart) develops nukes they will not hesitate to nuke the west, i say the west should knock the Muslim/arab world back into the stone age before it is to late and eliminate a current and future threat

Necrosis · Feb 4, 2006, 03:32 PM

All I can say is this one really should be a world wide matter.

SFOSOK · Feb 4, 2006, 03:34 PM

Fuck, I got a friend in Infantry. He knew what he signed up for though.

And guys, pretty much the thing we are best at is war and that is where most of our funding goes, its been that way for most of the history of the country so don't say bush is an oil hungry cowboy because that would make you and ignorent tool. I think if the UN supporsts it this time around, probably will because Iran is developing nukes, then Iran will be wiped clean of the map and not as many soldiers will die as did in Iraq, though that was not even a large amount. Kill all their leaders and possible next in lines who are terrorists and let them destroy themselves : ).

violat3 · Feb 4, 2006, 03:40 PM

spelling isn't your strong point is it min

Sandok · Feb 4, 2006, 03:42 PM

it'll be iraq all over... Lotsa more dead troops to bring "democracy"

SFOSOK · Feb 4, 2006, 03:44 PM

compare Iraq to any other conflict with the troop body count to the enemy.

***temeteus82*** · Feb 4, 2006, 03:45 PM

BTW. Seen the news about that danish newspaper thing...
The only muslim country taking it right is Jordan.
The terrorists uses islam and muhamed to justify their cause, and that is not right.... Muslims should look to the mirror and think!

Sandok · Feb 4, 2006, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Green Death Flavor

compare Iraq to any other conflict with the troop body count to the enemy.

True never said otherwise but either way, lives are lost...

SFOSOK · Feb 4, 2006, 03:55 PM

Yes death is worthless, but I think geneocide and the development of chemical weapons is probably a lot worse. Nuclear capabilities are one step above that. If a person joins their millitary and they are not prepared to die for their country then they should not be in the millitary, no matter how you feel about the presidents agenda. If you really need the money or what ever you should still be prepared to die for your country.

calidan · Feb 4, 2006, 05:35 PM

Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot. They were war mongers. What if the US could of stopped WW2 from happening? Do you think the US shouldn't have gotten involved? What if the US didn't get involved? We have not gotten involved in a lot of things but everytime we do its because one of two things. One, we were asked to intervene; and two, we were attacked ourselves. So, now that we starting to prevent something from happening we are the bad guys? Do you even know how many countries voted to send Iran to the Security Council and who didn't vote? Well, here is a list.

YES:
Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Belgium, Canada, China, Colombia, Ecuador, Egypt, France, Germany, Ghana, Greece, India, Japan, Norway, Portugal, Russia, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Sweden, United Kingdom, United States, Yemen

NO:
Cuba, Syria, Venezuela

ABSTAINED:
Algeria, Belarus, Indonesia, Libya, South Africa

Source: FoxNews.com

We are not the only country that is going to do something. You'll also notice there is two out of three countries that are in the Middle East voted YES.

Falstaff · Feb 4, 2006, 07:39 PM

We have immigrant Persians that own businesses here in my town and they are appalled at leader of IRAN and claim he actually led pro-khomeni hit teams during the over throw of the Shah long ago, and he was instrumental in the capture of hostages during the crisis of the Carter-Reagan administration. A radical extremist or a nationalist, the new leader of IRAN is gearing up for a confrontation with someone soon.
I have seen news tapes recorded of domestic Iranian news at the resturant just down the street from me and the young lady that runs it claims that anyone who opposed this fellow is dead now or vanished, he is evil personified according to the persian christians and they openly defame and discredit him here while they are in the U.S.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...4/ixworld.html
His divine mission is to be the triumphant leader during the last days of the world.

TJ- · Feb 4, 2006, 08:35 PM

you are all talking out of your ass posting pointless news articles. None of these stories or information is true or usefull. When will you realize that shit posted on the internet or in newspapers is the opinion on the person writing it. It is all bullshit. Falstaff you think you have the knowledge of a king, but you are spewing out crap....

In the end, do you really fucking care? seriously?

Sandok · Feb 5, 2006, 03:09 AM

Seems somebody doesn't do research...

So Zion, if the newspapers, websites and TV are biased and "wrong", where CAN we get info from?

Pompey · Feb 5, 2006, 03:25 AM

I think if diplomacy fails, we should invade Iran.
I also think America shouldn’t lead, not because they will do a bad job but because it will be perceived as the world doing Americas bidding.

Any war would be a PR nightmare in the Middle East, and would even have strong opposition in the west. Many people still think this guy only wants to peacefully develop Iran.

China is against sanctions apparently so that could complicate things.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Feb 5, 2006, 04:48 AM

Their terrorist leader calling for the isreal to be "wiped off the map"
Saying thing the the hollocost of WWII "never happened"

This guy is just asking for it. He thinks or troops are streached to far
to react . Well thats what bomb and missles are for...

That and russia need to stop playing devils advocate selling the billions
in air russion air defence systems. Funny most alot of the crap they found
in iraq tanks etc.. all old russion ordanace. Not to mention the 2 two tons
of motar shell sezied that where being sent with foged papers? wher from ?
most probubly russia, where to? Iraq, to be used to kill american troops...
this was after te war started so if they they fund a way to trace them back
we'd probubly be in a war we defonatly wouldnt want to be in... Arming the world enimies then not suppriseling not commitng troops in internatioal efforts why? becouse thier allied and on the wrong side...

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Originally Posted by Sandok

Seems somebody doesn't do research...

So Zion, if the newspapers, websites and TV are biased and "wrong",
where CAN we get info from?

magic talking mushrooms? ~ LOL Or
extemist.luntics.propagandawar.terroistsrock.ameri ca.diediedie.com?
that some of these people seem to get thier info from

sites that are just the sources who aren't accuntable for anything
they say why are ran by people with an cristal creal anti U.S. agenda .

~~Alien1~~ · Feb 5, 2006, 07:48 AM

Sorry but i am not convinced that there are terrorist groups in Iran threating the world to extinction

The answer from the largest part of World nations for starting War against Iran will be NO

The USA (under George Bush leadership) and 1-2 countries that agree with any Violent means against Iran are a minority right now

Instead of just throwing accusions and stupid poems (beneath the sands of Persia a serpent bides his time...

) with Empty words for making impressions maybe someone can give some real proof that Iran is a Terrorist nest

Just because they want to have Nuclear Energy Factories does not mean they build Nukes for terrorists

Iraq War was enough, if George Bush wants to play "the Peacekeeper" at least maybe he can give some proof before starting a "Crusade" these time

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Originally Posted by Chaos

Even though the US is my close neighbor I am getting tired of them getting involved in every military issue that comes to be. How is there ever gonna be peace with Bush the war monger and his cronies just twitching to push the button

I second that
even if US is not my neighbor country

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Originally Posted by Sandok

if the newspapers, websites and TV are biased and "wrong", where CAN we get info from?

From your President Bush

You USA boys believe whatever he says anyway right ?

If he say Jump...you jump

SFOSOK · Feb 5, 2006, 01:07 PM

^look another outsider lookin in tellin us how to run our country based on what ever information he is exposed to...

Sandok · Feb 5, 2006, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alien1

From your President Bush

You USA boys believe whatever he says anyway right ?

If he say Jump...you jump

MY president... Dude I'm not americain and don't live in that country... Some people